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TOR officially going F2P

sp4cecomm4ndersp4cecomm4nder Member Posts: 65 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Ten Forward
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07/31/its-official-swtor-is-going-free-to-play/
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  • enemyoffateenemyoffate Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Looks like eve is the only subscriber based space mmo left?
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Caaaaalllled Iiiiit!!!!

    Lol......
  • enemyoffateenemyoffate Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    centersolace wrote: »
    Caaaaalllled Iiiiit!!!!

    Lol......

    The moment i heard how much they put into voice overs i thought to myself. Well must not have much space left.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    still has way more to do then this game dose
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    daan2006 wrote: »
    still has way more to do then this game dose
    Well, now that it's going FTP you can go and do them for nothing. :)

    Once WoW succumbs we will know the era of pay MMOs is officially over. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    At first I was like > LOL, then I realised, STO now has another strong competitor. Hopefully it will spark some 'push' from PW.
  • radkipradkip Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Well that didn't take long.
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  • alastorforthrighalastorforthrigh Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thing is, they have a system in place that actually rewards subscribers and rewards past subscribers for their time and money past spent. Something PWE didn't really do. And of course now with a free to play MMO, based in a strong Sci-Fi universe with lots of story content in the market. PW will have to put a fair bit more effort into this game.
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  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    feh... read the faq. Still more restricted than STO. F2P players for TOR get restricted access to advanced and group content or so I've read.
    *sings* "I like Gammera! He's so neat!!! He is full of turtle meat!!!"

    "Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Very interesting restrictions. As F2P: Limited Dungeon runs. No access to raids.

    Completely contrary to stated Cryptic policy on why walling off content is bad.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    alastorforthrigh wrote: »
    PW would be smart to put a fair bit more effort into STO.


    I amended your statement. I hope you do not mind.

    I do worry that TOR will become more of a money grab than STO is simply becuase G.Lucas is more of a money grabber in my opinion.


    Damnit, Han shot first!!! I lost all faith in George when he changed that.
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  • sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    delicious. simply delicious.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Time to cancel another sub. F2P games aren't worth paying a sub when MT unlocks get you the same thing for less money (ala STO).
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Pretty sad that many of the urls in the F2P FAQ are currently broken. Looks like someone forgot the http:// in a number of urls and browsers are looking for a page instead of an url.

    Hope that's not a sign of their QA.

    edit: I don;t see a date when this happens.

    reedit: Example of a bad link: http://www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/6481
  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    nynik wrote: »
    Very interesting restrictions. As F2P: Limited Dungeon runs. No access to raids.

    Completely contrary to stated Cryptic policy on why walling off content is bad.

    Now there's something I've yet to hear. So why does Cryptic say walling off content is bad?
    *sings* "I like Gammera! He's so neat!!! He is full of turtle meat!!!"

    "Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    lonnehart wrote: »
    Now there's something I've yet to hear. So why does Cryptic say walling off content is bad?
    PW has always had the policy that they're not going to restrict content. That's how they handle all their games. You can play everything for free, but if you want all the shiny fuffy parts, you either need to pay or grind.

    SWTOR seems to be following LotRO, and will allow people to buy the additional content piece-meal if they don't want to Sub.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I don't see any faults in SWTOR "Free" model. If you don't PVP, you don't need unrestricted access to Warzones. If you don't Raid, you don't need unrestricted access to Operations.

    Both of which should be unlockable using real life cash, or via subbing. Their F2P features matrix seem to imply that you MUST be a subscriber to access the Raid content (Operations). One would hope, with more space MMOs being Free-to-play, it's a sign that other space MMOs such as STO need to step up their game, to keep players interested. "Nickle-and-diming" is never a good thing, but outright gouging people for money (Combat EV suits) is worse.
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  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    meurik wrote: »
    I don't see any faults in SWTOR "Free" model. If you don't PVP, you don't need unrestricted access to Warzones. If you don't Raid, you don't need unrestricted access to Operations.

    Both of which should be unlockable using real life cash, or via subbing. Their F2P features matrix seem to imply that you MUST be a subscriber to access the Raid content (Operations). One would hope, with more space MMOs being Free-to-play, it's a sign that other space MMOs such as STO need to step up their game, to keep players interested. "Nickle-and-diming" is never a good thing, but outright gouging people for money (Combat EV suits) is worse.

    The thing is its only going to hurt people who want to do that stuff... People who dont PVP or raid... arent going to care. Meanwhile people who want to do it are going to either:

    A. See that they have to pay and pay for it.

    or

    B. See that they have to pay... and be annoyed. (And more likely this one)

    You dont limit access to content behind a pay wall like that. I should be able to play the full game from start to endgame content fro free and then have to pay for the extra stuff on top of that. Limiting access to Operations in TOR is like limiting access to STFs here... at endgame that the only thing to do... people will leave if they cant play the end game content.... and developers dont want that.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I think TOR is a better overall game than STO. But I have to admit I LOL'ed at the fact Bioware is saying as a paid perk "play unlimited space content". I mean, seriously? That sounds more like a threat then a perk.
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  • thomas12255thomas12255 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Sounds great. For the price of about ?10 to play 8 different storylines it will be all I wanted. I have never been interested in SWTOR for the MMO aspect. I wanted KOTOR 3.
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  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited July 2012
    Meh. Hopefully, when the exodus happens, PWE will become concerned enough that they'll alot Cryptic more resources. STO, bugs and all, is still a far superior product, IMHO. SWTOR has about as much to do with Star Wars, as growing beefsteak tomatos, does.
  • verlaine11verlaine11 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thought this was interesting



    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/feature/6609/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Free-to-Play-This-Fall.html

    MAKEB AND OTHER CONTENT = FREE?

    I asked Matt and Jeff then if the planned content we learned about at E3 would be some of the first ?Content Updates? to be purchased, and they couldn?t go into much more detail than ?yes and no?. For instance, HK51 is something they really want to get in the game sooner rather than later, while Makeb is further down the line. They also have a brand new event for all subscribers coming in August which is a public world event like the Rhakgoul Invasion. I asked if HK51 would then be free for everyone, if he came before the F2P launch, and Jeff said they really haven?t decided because they?re not even sure when he?s going to launch just yet. The goal is to work on the content and get it out as soon as they can, and if some comes after the F2P transition, then they?ll evaluate what is free and what is paid
  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Wow. That was fast. Even Cryptic managed to milk STO subs longer than that.
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  • alastorforthrighalastorforthrigh Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    commadorebob wrote: »
    Wow. That was fast. Even Cryptic managed to milk STO subs longer than that.

    point being Cryptic was trying to Milk subscribers, Biowares actually rewarding them for their time and money.

    And can someone explain to me why the Forums are randomly quoting other posts I didn't pick to quote?
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  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited July 2012
    commadorebob wrote: »
    Wow. That was fast. Even Cryptic managed to milk STO subs longer than that.

    I think I quit during the beta. When I found out my jedi was armed with a "practice lightsaber" whatever that is. What's he scouring the galaxy for a sparring partner?
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm both happy and sad about the news.

    Happy that I'll have yet another game I can just log into and play with out needing a Subscription.

    Sad because I bought into the game when it was getting ready to come out.

    And perhaps laughing because the game didn't even last long enough as a subscription based game to reach a year old?
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    alastorforthrigh wrote: »
    And can someone explain to me why the Forums are randomly quoting other posts I didn't pick to quote?

    You didn;t click on that multi button to the right of the quote button, did you? Should say multi-off I believe.
  • takeshi6takeshi6 Member Posts: 752 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Glad it's going F2P.

    Had to cancel my Subscription, simply because it was getting too costly to maintain it. Now I'll be able to play whenever I want, even without that subscription!! :D
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  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I guess I'm spoiled by STO as you get full access to almost everything, so I won't be jumping this ship for the other game. Now if it was the original SWG that would be another story...

    Hope this link works...

    SWtOR Subscription vs. Free Features
    *sings* "I like Gammera! He's so neat!!! He is full of turtle meat!!!"

    "Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
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