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NX is just an Akira
skytex
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I saw someone mention on a youtube post that the NX class starship is just an upside down Akira, and that star trek went cheapo on that model. Anyone else see the similarities?
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Is a neat ship, neat inside design... but kinda blah that it's so similar to the Akira.
Were there to be another Season of Enterprise, you would have seen the "refit" version of the NX, whic is a stepping stone to the more classic Look of Ships bearing the name Enterprise... https://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/nx-01-refit-diagram/
here's a Render of what it would look like in 3d.... http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/side3.jpg
http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/nx_refit_v_03.jpg
But it's not a cheap rip-off... the model was remade... it's not like they took an akira, flipped the nacells and done deal.
I honestly hate the Akiraprise myself, but I think that if the refit had made it, it would have improved opinions of the NX greatly, the refit looked awesome.
Yes, there is a strong resemblance, with them having a similar configuration. However the same goes for the Consitution VS Ambassador Vs Excelsior VS Galaxy class and Vorcha vs Ktinga.
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No, if you read what Drexler and Eaves had to say about it, the initial designs and subsequent designs were very Constitutionish. Berman wanted the Akira-esque design.
While I do like the NX (interiors mostly), I would have preferred if they had adopted a different design. When I think about it though, I always seem to imagine a single-hulled ship, something akin to the Galactica - and doesn't do much to bridge the gap to TOS.
I'm simply passing on what i heard elsewhere, that whoever had the final strings as it where had to be talked out of using the akira as was. I'm not reffering to your link at all.
That said i think the NX looks a LOT better the way we got it. It even looks lie it maes sense as a speedster. Even in space their's drag from dust and what have you. The deflector clears that away of course, but the biggger the area it has to clear the more power it's going to need to do it. So NX's far more streamlined design makes a LOT more sense. TBH that's about the only silver lining to the enterprise cancellation for me. severla of seasons 5's dumb idea's never got to be seen.
Actually, one of the preliminary designs looked similar to the Galactica.
You're about ten years late on this.
The resemblance is there and it was actually intended when the NX was designed.
"Sometimes you have to do things that you hate, so you can survive to fight another day."
It's ironic you say that, since the Bridge of the NX was actually the USS Defiant bridge set redressed :-P
Even though the NX was based on the Akira, I still like it :-)
everything changed with the daedalus class. earth could make four Daedalus class vessels for one nx so the design got scrapped for the war and never came back
as seen here --> http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/akiraprise/akira-vs-akiraprise.jpg
just proves they had no imagination what so ever and the story was just bad, bad, bad.
they screwed up the time line* in so many ways it was just pathetic.
I don't see where they got the idea that the Akria was a favorite of fans.
I am an old school Trekkie where none other then tos is the real thing and everything else just pales in comparison.
so when any moron does anything with tos they have a very high bar to try to top. and when they fail any true Trekkie will be annoyed.
that goes for tv shows and poor excuses of movies as well that try to remake the tos.
edit; they may not say it but enterprise was an attempt to remake the tos but it was clear as they replaced James Tiberius Kirk with some hack job named Jonathan Archer and setting it earlier in earth's history.
* (1) Spock was suppose to be the first Vulcan to serve on any Federation Ship or earth ship for that matter.
(2) The first Phaser weapons was first introduced on the Enterprise(Kirk's Enterprise) for her first refit after Christopher Pike lost the Caption's chair.
(3) they didn't have hand Phasers at first either because Spock was seen using a laser weapon when he was under Pike's Command.
(4) then there is all that stupid time jumping those idiots did.
(5) the federation didn't first meet the Ferengi until the tng era.
it clearly shows those morons never did their home work or else they would have known all that.
Yet the Akiraprise is basically copying a ship design from a much, much later era in Star Trek? At least all the other ships in Star Trek look like they shared a sensical lineage. You can clearly see the lineage and continued development from the Constitution, Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy classes. Even the D7 and Vor'Cha. The Akiraprise was pretty much almost the same model as the Akira-class shown in late TNG-era shows/movies.
I find it comforting to think that the defense industry never changes. Its a universal constant, no matter how forward in time you go - they still overcharge.
How so?
When was that stated?
When was it stated that those were the first phasers in existence?
And the NX-01's weapons weren't technically "phasers", though they likely used a similar technology.
I hate to break this to you, but they did a lot of "time jumping" in TOS as well. Often in much more ridiculous ways than anything in Enterprise.
Formal first contact with the Ferengi government took place in TNG. The Ferengi in Enterprise were renegades.
Enterprise certainly isn't the only Trek series that made the occasional continuity slip.
Back on topic: I love the NX class. It's my favorite Trek ship ever. Yes, it looks a lot like the Akira, but there are enough differences for it to be respected as its own ship.
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-Thomas Marrone
about Spock being the first -->http://www.allyngibson.net/?p=1033
The Phasers use and deployment in TOS after "The Cage"*
Phase weapons was the 'precursor' to the phaser tech and logic would dictate if that was the case they would have had Phaser technology by Pikes time.
like I said no research was done by them. "the Cage" was the pilot and thus cannon which backs up what I said about the phasers and lasers.
TOS trumps everything that has come out after it. so it does not matter what they show in any other wanna be star trek show. and any real Trekkie would back me up on this.
with number five, their faces should have been apart of the ship's records then unless the people of enterprise was to stupid to turn them on?
Everything else though TOS is the bases for everything and if it conflicts with anything that tos then can never be cannon.
and true Trekkie would agree.
There was time travel before there was Enterprise. Lots of time travel.
Never actually stated that they hadn't encountered them, just that official first contact was during the 24th century. Starfleet wouldn't teach cadets about the time those aliens we've never seen before tried to rob the flagship.
I didn't see that link in your other post, but okay.
What I got out of that article is that it wasn't canonically stated that Spock was the first; it's just a common interpretation. No "proof" there.
As seen in the Abrams movie, Starfleet was using phasers as early as 2233. If you hate Enterprise I'm guessing you loathe the Abrams movie, but too bad. They're both canon.
Just because we saw them using lasers in "The Cage" doesn't mean phasers didn't exist at the time. Maybe the laser weapons were prototypes that ultimately failed, or maybe they were phasers that utilized lasers in their operation.
That's a matter of opinion, bud. And even if it does, that doesn't mean the stuff that was made after it is any less canon.
So if you don't think that TOS blows all other Trek out of the water, you're not really a fan? That makes tons of sense.
Your opinion isn't the only one that's valid.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Look at TOS there was only five total(Show and movie) from what I could dig up while enterprise had a huge 12+ if not more.
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You are wrong they are not cannon, not by a long shot. anything done after Mr. Roddenberry's death is NOT cannon.
it is like Star wars where whats his face says what is cannon and what isn't and since he is no longer with us nothing else anyone does is cannon. and true Trekkie knows this.
WRONG again if there was Phaser technology the Enterprise would have had it a long time ago. and Lasers was the main armament of Star fleet ships of the days.