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salamiinferno
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Any feedback you have for the fleet system UI, progression structure, project info, project cost, starbase appearance, facility appearance, anything and everything!
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**Temp workaround - log out of Tribble, log into one of your toon on Holodeck, log out of Holodeck then relog into tribble and you will be able to map transfer.
same with the fed fleet system keep getting server not responding.
Exterior Starbase Tier 0 Map
- The ability to see the tier zero surrounding facilities (conduits, shipyards etc) from the starbase. All one can see is a blinking beacon location. However, its possible to look back and see the starbase from these locations, so it seems something is amiss.
In fact, if you blinked when a beacon went off you might not realize the system had other structures. Perhaps this becomes less of an issue as those structures develop.
This also factors in to being able to quickly see where you need to go during a starbase defence, without opening the map each time.
Interior Starbase Tier 0 Map
Existing Environment:
- More clutter in the hallways. Plants, furniture (interactive were possible), repair crews etc
Ops Level
- Transporter room floor surface seems to be missing.
Tactical Level
- None of the seats in the altered Ready Room map on the tactical level of the starbase function by clicking to activate. The central raised platform chair does, in compassion.
- The large screen displays should alternate, perhaps.
Science Level
- Allow the forcefield in the science lab (right of the turbolift) to be activate-able by button press.
Personal Preference:
Remarks: Some of the corridor walls i ops seem to be untextured, or have a default shiny, almost Caitian-Atrox blue feel to them. Is this intended? Hopefully not.
Ops Level
- More Side offices and activate-able chairs. I would particularly like to see the left raised area (upon exiting the transporter room) changed from a replicator area to a presentation/awards/briefing area, which included rows of activate-able benches, a dais, a podium, some adjacent seats for the Admiralty, and a hologram display (glass panel) that is activated by a button.
- Two more extended lights (or whatever they are) added to the glass divider on the raised circular office located across the clear bridge.
- Raised holographic screens from those generic consoles would be nice.
- Large Fleet emblem in the central circle i Ops, and smaller versions on walls elsewhere
Tactical Level
- Use the sealed door to the right of the turbolift exit to add a firing range with dummies, doesn't need to be fancy like CO Power House (*cough cinema*)
*hope to add more as we get stuck in!
2) Also "Federation Fleet System" On the map doesn't feel right. I would rename this to "Fleet Starbase".
3) When on the "Overview" tab and you click "View Starbase", it jumps to the "Holdings" tab. Why not rename the tab to "Starbase"? I think it makes more sense.
Edit : Maybe because more bases and holding coming? Ahhh
I noticed there is a chat command: /Guild_InviteToGuildMap NAME@handle
But the one person who was on the map was not able to perform this command successfully, as they got this in reply...
[Fleet] Error running command on fleet map: you do not have permission to invite or kick players from a fleet map.
Which seems fine because at recruit rank, we are not set up to be able to take advantage of this fleet setting "Invite non-members to fleet owned maps".
But both he and I were in the same fleet (Kyrptic Klingons).
Hope this helps somewhat.
Specifically on the Science and Engineering levels.
Interior Tier 0 Map
Remarks: Nice to see the KDF logo emblazoned on the floor of the Tactical Level main room, hopefully more of that will carry across here, and with the Federation stations.
Should the KDF computer screen graphics, seen on the OPS control center, be more red, and less LCARS Yellow/Purple? ^^
Ops Level
- The Plain glass panels can sometimes be excessively white and bloomy when viewed from side angles.
- The Skill Retraining Officer in the lounge will open the respec window even though it hasn't been unlocked yet.
- One of the Klingon PA audio announcements said " a [something] drill at two thousand hours"... not 'twenty-hundred hours'?
Engineering Level
- The chairs opposite the main chair (behind the desk) in the Engineering office are not intractable (whereas that one is). (Left room after exiting the turbolift)
- The door opening audio seemed not to play for me upon entering this main left room, (it played the shutting door noise after I had entered).
Science Level
- Door opening audio seemed not to play entering the left turn medical treatment room from the turbolift (it played the shutting door noise after I had entered).
- The same issue occurred with the far room to the right of the turbolift (personnel officer room).
- ... and in the medical sickbay.
Tactical Level
- None of the chairs in the main room are intractable. The only exception is the main chair (behind desk) in the antechamber office.
- It would be nice if the forcefields in the brig could be toggled on/off.
1) The klingon door to the lower levels (tactical, science etc) does not flash like the fed one. people wont know there is anything to be seen in there
2) some of the mini maps for the lower levels on the KDF side dont have all of the corridors showing.
3) the fleet red alert button does not work (the guys seem to know about this already)
4) assigning data samples is a but dull. you can only do one at a time and its a bit of a mission to keep adding them. can we add them in blocks of 5 or 10? also it does not show how many you have when you enter them. while not critical it might be nice to see what you own before you give it up?
5) as im not a fleet leader i cant tell, but please make sure people cant accidentally cancel fleet projects with one wrong click. its quite easy to accidentally cancel a doff assignment and nobody wants to lose weeks of work. there needs to be a couple of checks if you wnat to cancel.
6) there was a little too much bloom on some of the glass panels on the klingon ops level near the table. from a certain angle they really glowed. same with the boig holograpgic thing on the feds science level.
EDIT: Didn't see your post, Revo, before I posted this.
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I think the requests to proceed need to be much larger so it give everyone a chance to contribute, even when in a different time zone, this way they wont be filled out by a couple of rich folk in a single fleet...
TO APPLY PLEASE VISIT OUR 12TH WEBSITE HERE - 12th Fleet Application Form
We've only seen T0-T1 requirements so far, bit early to call that, imo.
fleet actions
stfs
the vault mission
borg red alerts
As these all need teams they strike me as a good opportunity to give people more reason to play them.
the vault in perticualr needs a little something extra than just reman data chips and the fleet actions are just an obvious choice as they were originally meant for fleets.
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Also I think the 20 hr cooldown might hurt smaller fleets vs larger fleets because larger fleets because larger fleets won't have as much trouble completing each project where smaller fleets will struggle. A large fleet can realisticly complete 4-5 projects every 20 hrs where smaller fleets will not. Not sure how to balance this out but I would liek to see it balanced out more.
And what i miss. On tier 0 task are done quickly . But when we get higher projects will take a longer time to finish. So i would LOVE to see Estimate of time how long the project will take before i select him to do .
A few things I have noticed/would like to see changed if possible:
That's all that I have noticed.
Good work Devs.
It says give 10,000 points, and it gives you 200,000 Fleet Credits.
Which compared to all other contributions, giving you like 100-300 Fleet Credits, this seems a little unbalanced. Given especially how common BOFF points are for people who have been on the level cap a while. On most of my characters I have well into the millions.
EDIT: I really miss my old forum account. Can I just say that?
Matthew@Matthew486DX -> Eng Lvl 60
FAW/Tank: Tactical Oddyessy T5-U, Tank/Heal Science Oddyessy T5-U, DPS Cruiser: A2B Battlecruiser T5-U, DPS/Debuff Tholian Recluse T5-U
Fleet Admiral: Angry Tribbles
Those in my fleet like it having it as a close-knit group and not having to leave for a larger populated fleet nor having to recruit players to be advance. The system needs to be more forgiving for those with populations under 20 so it doesn't feel like getting to Tier 5 would take years than months. Because if you value greed over friendship then that's when things get problematic.
So please have the system be more on an exponential system than linear where small fleets can progress easier. Sure they won't advance as fast as super-fleets of 200 or more, but it won't feel like it take 10 years to get to Tier 5 either.
The system is on Tribble for, wait for it, TESTING!
How about making some suggestions on what would make the system better for a fleet like yours instead of just complaining?
One thing I'd like to see are projects that perhaps don't significantly (or at all) advance the fleet, but do allow members to get fleet credits. This way, when all of the projects are taken up, members will still have something to do in the system.
Also, a project that creates some sort of object that larger fleets could donate (or sell) to smaller fleets could be interesting. I'm not sure how this could work or even if it could help, but some way for fleets of different sizes to cooperate would be a nice mechanic.
-Forjo
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Stop the easily abused and unfair auto-silence "feature"!
So doesn't seem unique in the sense that you're protecting YOUR base, just a base, then you get to plow more stuff to build your base up.
Works for me. Just requires more coordination!
I wouldn't have even replied to you if your original post hadn't said "we're opting out". You later edited that out, but your attitude was clear. You didn't like it and you had decided to just not participate.
Complaining is fine so long as you leave room for someone to address your complaints.
Complaining and just up and leaving is not constructive and that is what the post I originally read was saying.
-Forjo
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Stop the easily abused and unfair auto-silence "feature"!
Here is some feedback from a FLEET LEADER'S perspective.
1) Nice work with showing the @handle on the leaderboard. Helps us know which PLAYER is contributing, even if on multiple characters.
2) The UI could use a little improvement. The description of the projects get cut off in mid-sentence.
3) Be nice if there was a way to see how much cooldown there is on each project.
4) Being able to que up the "Next" project - kudos on that one!
5) Rewards are a bit unbalanced with the 'Special' projects. Or maybe it is unclear what you get or unlock by doing them. The regular projects at tier 0 give 1000 military/eng/sci FXP. Requires 180 fleet marks. The Special only gives 80 FXP to each track and requires 600 fleet marks? Why would we spend resources on this project?
6) What is the difference between FXP and track specific FXP (milit/eng/sci)? Or IS there a difference? Tier 1 base unlocks at 1000 FXP. But tier 1 military unlocks at 10,000 Military FXP. As far as I can see, there are no projects that give just general FXP as a reward. They all give track specific FXP. I'm sure we'll eventually figure it out, but be nice to something on the UI to explain it.
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I'll knock these out in line!
1. Thanks! We think it will be a good tool for fleets to see contributions.
2. We have internal mockups already made for that portion of the UI. We hope to have it implemented by the next scheduled tribble push (end of next week sometime).
3. Fair request! Once you get going it tends to always be the same with the exception of the upgrade projects, but we'll look into it.
4. Super important! It gives you a time buffer if fleet leadership cant make it online for a couple of days.
5. These special projects are there as a way for larger fleets to allow more people to earn fleet credit. They're "expensive" to give more people a chance to contribute and low reward so huge fleets cant dominate small fleets with this special slot. We added a small amount of FXP reward in each category to make them worth it, but if you have 500 people the low end projects wont likely give enough FC to most of the fleet. That said, a new type of special project is coming up that will unlock cosmetic items in your fleet starbase interior.
6. We're working on clarifying, but every track is unique. Military, Engineering, Science, and the currently invisible starbase FXP. The military track, to use your example, will level up your starbase. So running 10 military projects will give you enough FXP to unlock your ship yard, and unlocking your shipyard will actually give you enough starbase FXP to unlock your T1 starbase. The number of facility upgrades required to level increases with each tier, so you'll have to spread it out! Having a T1 starbase is nice because it actually fights back in fleet combat maps