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edited July 2012 in Klingon Discussion
They got what they BEGGED for, much like a screaming 5yr old in a shopping mall or toy store.

http://www.startrekonline.com/node/3241

It'll set em back $25 and they will buy it. It's a nice ship but not a game-breaker. They have a cute selection of ships, we have a SOLID collection of ships, the only thing I really want for the KDF is some new skins for our ships and maybe salvage shuttle like the Yosemite.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm just somewhat amazed that they did it so soon after a Carrier was already released, and after the GREAT DEBATE about the Feds not having carriers, hence the litter box....

    More spam. Yum.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    mondo80 wrote: »
    They got what they BEGGED for, much like a screaming 5yr old in a shopping mall or toy store.

    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/3241

    It'll set em back $25 and they will buy it. It's a nice ship but not a game-breaker. They have a cute selection of ships, we have a SOLID collection of ships, the only thing I really want for the KDF is some new skins for our ships and maybe salvage shuttle like the Yosemite.

    The only real draw of the (Naomi) Armitage Battle Carrier is the Photon Torpedo Point Defense Console.

    The big question now will be how long before Cryptic adds the 2nd Hanger Bay to the new Fed toy?

    I may pick this thing up for my Fed Alts but not any time soon.

    Mark my words it won’t be long before the cries of we need a 2nd Hanger to keep up with the Kar’Fi are heard from Sol to the far reaches of the Gamma Quadrant.

    I’m hoping that my Vo’Quv will see some love in the form of a +1 Variant or at least give it some new skins and its own special console.

    I’ve been begging for a Raptor Hanger support craft since day 1 for the Vo’Quv.

    You figure it the Vo’Quv can support up to 12 Fighters and 4 Bird of Prey it should at least be able to support 2 Raptors :mad:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    mondo80 wrote: »
    They got what they BEGGED for, much like a screaming 5yr old in a shopping mall or toy store.

    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/3241

    It'll set em back $25 and they will buy it. It's a nice ship but not a game-breaker. They have a cute selection of ships, we have a SOLID collection of ships, the only thing I really want for the KDF is some new skins for our ships and maybe salvage shuttle like the Yosemite.

    Does it surprise you? The Feds whine, Cryptic caves in.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    mondo80 wrote: »
    They got what they BEGGED for, much like a screaming 5yr old in a shopping mall or toy store.

    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/3241

    It'll set em back $25 and they will buy it. It's a nice ship but not a game-breaker. They have a cute selection of ships, we have a SOLID collection of ships, the only thing I really want for the KDF is some new skins for our ships and maybe salvage shuttle like the Yosemite.

    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    0Gambit0 wrote: »

    I’m hoping that my Vo’Quv will see some love in the form of a +1 Variant or at least give it some new skins and its own special console.

    I’ve been begging for a Raptor Hanger support craft since day 1 for the Vo’Quv.

    You figure it the Vo’Quv can support up to 12 Fighters and 4 Bird of Prey it should at least be able to support 2 Raptors :mad:

    I'd like to see either a +1 Vo’Quv, +1 Kar'Fi, or a +1 Marauder. And since it seems that it'd be the only way, let whatever new ship come with a NEW KDF SHUTTLE.

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    Like 2 LG level Raptors?
    Like 2 LG level Battle Cruisers?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    That's good to hear. Perhaps you can shed some light on the news from then-EP Stephen D'Angelo dated December 20, 2011 about the upcoming ships:
    Bird of Prey: Hegh'ta Refit
    Battle Cruiser: Negh'Var Refit
    Raptor: Qin Refit

    Every single ship on that chart is now in-game, except those 3 KDF Tier 5 refits. Are these still being planned?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    Wow.... for a moment it felt like Logan was back. he sang that song last year too. It is a good tune, but always ends the same way.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    You guys had like 3 new streak for federation ships. First the carrier, then the stalker, now another carrier? ARE YOU MAD (as in why only feds)? KDF's newest ships are the Bortasqu' when the Odysses came out. Anyways, federation has more in every subjet than KDF. I dont know if it because they start at lvl 20 or something but its not really equaly fair and somewhat macthed with all the weps they are allowed to use now... powerful ones at that. Also, The Federation has like 20 costumes and Klingons only have 1 (I mean I can understand it a little but there are diffrent races in KDF). PLus, kdf has low amount of species but I guess thats fine due to the fact that races have to JOIN kdf you cant really make some up. I tried my best to say what I needed to say and ill go from that. I am mixed emotions right now. :):( :mad: :eek:

    P.S With Costumes, I mean for Special Buyable ones. Even without counting those... federation has more.

    BTW: If akwardly I meet a KDF online, im Ela'kshish (NOT full name)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Capt.Rax wrote:
    Wow.... for a moment it felt like Logan was back. he sang that song last year too. It is a good tune, but always ends the same way.

    As I recall Logan also delivered. ALL the new KDF ships that came in were because of his push for them. That's 18 ships and 1 costume we got because of HIS efforts. What he got for his efforts was KDF whining about what the designs looked like and how it wasn't enough. Speaking of whining, I'm amused by the redundancy of KDF whining about Feds whining.

    Like it or not, the fact is the focus of the game is FED because the majority of players are FED. The devs have to put focus on what will bring the most $ in and lets face it, a ship feds have been screaming for will bring far more $ in than a new KDF ship.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    Yes.. you love the KDF.. but the question is.. do you also PVP? Because we all know the KDF is PVP capital :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    My Battlecruiser design is available, up to you guys at cryptic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm a HUGE fan of the KDF. My main is KDF. When ever I get a chance top push for anything KDF....believe me I WILL !!

    I beg you to use what influence you have, to push for:

    - More skins for T5 kdf ships
    - More BoP/Raptor T5 types

    KDF is supposed to be the faction for hard hitting attack ships, and we have less than the federation to choose from...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Yes.. you love the KDF.. but the question is.. do you also PVP? Because we all know the KDF is PVP capital :p

    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    I hope that shirt you are wearing is flame-retardant. You just said something people are not going to like.

    *grabs marshmallows*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    In before the lock.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    see its because of the devs pvp is so bad atm. this post is proof of it, and the new ship and all the consoles we have out there are proof.. its actually very sad since sto pvp is is the best system from everything ive read about mmo pvp. why do we need such op ships and consoles? you can lol kill every npc there is with out the use of bo powers.


    ide really love for the pve system to actually get better. by that i mean give the npc some resist and the will to actually fight and try to stay alieve like a real player would do. you say you love story driven content, but why do the npc have to seem like a choir to fight? least if they semi acted like real people it could be fun. take the stf, extra hp sheilds and harder hits. you know their next move before they even do. just give them player resist and make them use powers taht real players would do. make them cross heal use rsp anything besides a half dead spear using emergency power to engines to come at me or run away. make players use actaully skill and think about the next move. every stf map is the same. you know your next 30 moves like clock work. you know what the borg will do before they actually know and do it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    I agree!! I'm glad that there are devs that are willing to openly state that they prefer immersion in good stories to pew pew. I find this very heartening! :D

    Adding you to my list of cool devs. :cool:

    Heretic
    Tummerboy
    lcdrmiller0918

    P.S. You need a catchier name....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    see its because of the devs pvp is so bad atm. this post is proof of it.

    Miller makes ships. His lack of interest in PvP has absolutely no bearing on the state of PvP in STO. Any thoughts to the contrary are just plain naive.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    see its because of the devs pvp is so bad atm. this post is proof of it, and the new ship and all the consoles we have out there are proof.. its actually very sad since sto pvp is is the best system from everything ive read about mmo pvp. why do we need such op ships and consoles? you can lol kill every npc there is with out the use of bo powers.


    ide really love for the pve system to actually get better. by that i mean give the npc some resist and the will to actually fight and try to stay alieve like a real player would do. you say you love story driven content, but why do the npc have to seem like a choir to fight? least if they semi acted like real people it could be fun. take the stf, extra hp sheilds and harder hits. you know their next move before they even do. just give them player resist and make them use powers taht real players would do. make them cross heal use rsp anything besides a half dead spear using emergency power to engines to come at me or run away. make players use actaully skill and think about the next move. every stf map is the same. you know your next 30 moves like clock work. you know what the borg will do before they actually know and do it.


    You obviously haven't done any elite STF's if you think you can "lol kill without boff powers". I dare you to survive against a Tactical Cube on elite without using any boff powers (or being healed by your teammates).



    Miller makes ships. His lack of interest in PvP has absolutely no bearing on the state of PvP in STO. Any thoughts to the contrary are just plain naive.

    Surfer speaks the truth. Blaming an artist for bad content is like blaming the President's maid for the bad economy. (a bit of a stretch, but the analogy holds true anyway)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    So...do you play STO? Have you reached max level? What do you do then?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.
    Don't take the flames to heart. I love both PvP and good PvE. Keep up the great work and let the systems guys try and get the balance down.

    Your work is awesome.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I hope that shirt you are wearing is flame-retardant. You just said something people are not going to like.

    *grabs marshmallows*

    He just said something that the proportionally insignificant players that actually PvP here care about.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    ...
    *slowly zips back up*
    ...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Miller makes ships. His lack of interest in PvP has absolutely no bearing on the state of PvP in STO. Any thoughts to the contrary are just plain naive.

    sorry but i have to call bs on this. ships can effect pvp. just look at the fed carrier, the jem and the glador and dokora. and clearly this ship is the most op comming to pvp. awesome just what we all need. all tacts in the cat box are doing it wrong. but this ship......... epts 1 rsp epts3 or epts 1 epts 2 and dem 2. going to be awesomely op in pvp trust me.

    and dont forget to use a mk12 purple rcs
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Cuatela wrote:
    You obviously haven't done any elite STF's if you think you can "lol kill without boff powers". I dare you to survive against a Tactical Cube on elite without using any boff powers (or being healed by your teammates).





    )

    not to double post or anything but you can beat an elite stf in t1 ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly, when it comes to MMO pvp ( any mmo game) I have never been a huge fan. I love story driven content. I'd rather be immersed in the game rather than see whose guns are bigger.

    Amen! :)

    But Cryptic hasn't had a good track record of delivering a steady stream of either recently. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Wilv wrote: »
    Speaking of whining, I'm amused by the redundancy of KDF whining about Feds whining.

    Speaking of whining, I'm amused by the redundancy of Fed whining about KDF voicing legitimate complaints.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BROKEN1981 wrote:
    sorry but i have to call bs on this. ships can effect pvp. just look at the fed carrier, the jem and the glador and dokora. and clearly this ship is the most op comming to pvp. awesome just what we all need. all tacts in the cat box are doing it wrong. but this ship......... epts 1 rsp epts3 or epts 1 epts 2 and dem 2. going to be awesomely op in pvp trust me.

    and dont forget to use a mk12 purple rcs

    If I'm not mistaken CaptainGeko still controls what ships DO. Miller creates a model and a costume that has little to no bearing on pvp.
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