Done 103 Ground Elite STFs and not even 1 MK XII TECH-Drop yet.My Fleetbuddy and 2 Randoms got a full MK XII Set after 10 runs.
its a shame!
That's why I say again and again this such loot rule is really unfair.
Another example. Yesterday I ran 3 ISE with optionnals. I didn't get loot from optionnals (3 loot for 5 people) and I got 2 edc per STF.
I don't understand why Devs made so inequitable rule for loot. BTW why the same loot is dropped again and again. I really don't care about Common Borg Shield Tech. I got 4 Common Borg Shield Tech. It's TRIBBLE! My aegis set is better!
well after god knows how many runs of infected ground elite i finally scored my first prototype tech for the mk12 ground sets it was the psg from infected but now i have to run ka ground elite and the cure ground elite and god knows how long that is gonna take.
Can't help but wonder if the decline of MkXII drops has something to do with the forthcoming season six and the possibility that MkXII items will be purchasable or superceeded by MkXIII gear?
I mean, starving players of MkXII gear would result in it being snapped up if it suddenly appeared in the dilithium store, wouldn't it*?
* I realise that a good number of forum users would say that they wouldn't, but the general playerbase who DON'T visit the forums - the sort of people who buy lockbox keys frequently - almost definitely would.
I certainly hope it wouldn't end up in the dilithium sotre. Gozer's already said that it would end up being sold for EDC lke the current set after being replaced by the new elusive set. Personally i hope they do come out with a new set with season 6. There has been some great talk and ideas of a more assimilated set by forum posters, and i would love the devs to look into that.
I only need the Proto PSG. I have duplicates of all other items (at least) and ZERO proto PSG. You can not tell me the odds are even on all the STF. I usually get in an average of 2-4 IGE a day and have for months now and have not had a single drop. It's gotten so bad I am on autopilot when playing it because I have done it so much.: and not have to think it out.
I certainly hope it wouldn't end up in the dilithium sotre. Gozer's already said that it would end up being sold for EDC lke the current set after being replaced by the new elusive set. Personally i hope they do come out with a new set with season 6. There has been some great talk and ideas of a more assimilated set by forum posters, and i would love the devs to look into that.
Well, the Dilithium store was just an example, and there are other ways that they could make the MkXII gear a little more readily available.
As I said though, I get the impression that thecurrent absense of frequent MkXII gear could mean that something new is coming along, and starving us of said gear will make us want whatever new stuff comes along even more.
Well, the Dilithium store was just an example, and there are other ways that they could make the MkXII gear a little more readily available.
As I said though, I get the impression that thecurrent absense of frequent MkXII gear could mean that something new is coming along, and starving us of said gear will make us want whatever new stuff comes along even more.
This has already been confirmed by Gozer on the STOKED interview, Mk XII will be purchaseable, no idea of cost was given but I am hoping that all and any STF loot, EDCs, rare tech, proto salvage etc will be part exchangeable.
I finished my mark XI MACO set with the Armor Tech dropping twice, I haven't even seen a PSG or weapon tech once and I am getting close to being able to get my Omega Mk XI Set. I love ground STFing and if I get the proto tech I'll get it, I will not be hunting for it.
I grinded like a mo fo on one toon to get my proto tech and I won't be doing that again. After I get my Omega XI gear complete I'm taking a break from STFing and go Accolade hunting. I'll still do them from time to time, but just not as much.
This past weekend STF population was really down. I know it was a holiday weekend, but the numbers were way down. So I am unsure if it because of the hoilday or STFs are starting to get boring for everyone. I'm probably not the only one that is or plans on taking a break from the STFs. I haven't seen a lot of the EliteSTFers I am used to see all the time.
After saying all this I highly doubt they will change the drop rate and from what I can tell they never did in the first place and even after saying they had. They want and need us to grind, the longer we grind the longer we are in STO and the more likely to buy something off the CStore.
This has already been confirmed by Gozer on the STOKED interview, Mk XII will be purchaseable, no idea of cost was given but I am hoping that all and any STF loot, EDCs, rare tech, proto salvage etc will be part exchangeable.
Well, that does (in a way) explain why the drop rate has been barely existant lately!
again though, even if and when we get the Mk XII gear for EDC in the store, it doesn't Empty out the rare tech or common tech. Sure we can buy small amounts of Dilitium with it, but i would still rather see the addition of being able to send them to alts or trading up for higher mark gear. It's kind of annoying that instead of stream lining the currencies they've just added way more but made them very limited in how you can spend them.
Done 103 Ground Elite STFs and not even 1 MK XII TECH-Drop yet.My Fleetbuddy and 2 Randoms got a full MK XII Set after 10 runs.
its a shame!
Hence my comment agreeing with a friend that anybody who defends the current setup is an utter fool.
You work you *** off to get it? NOTHING.
He just hops in for fun? Gets full XII ground set.
It's impossible to truly work toward earning the XII set currently, I'd rather see hundreds of people in XII, and have it be earnable, then to see a few and go "Damn lucky *******s."
Today I ran 21 STF with my reroll Klingon. We failed optionnals for 10 or 12. I got edc and rubbish (many gears mkIX green). Now I believe Cryptic Studios is laughing on players. They didn't increase anything. They are just liars.
Are you just now catching on to this? And it's not like they're sitting around laughing at us, I suspect that the truth is closer to 'we don't figure in to the equation'. More than likely our experience and growing spite and hate for our dev team is utterly without meaning or interest to them.
RIght now I have banked 99 of each of the general commodities (edc, proto salvage, Rare) in the hopes it will get added to the STF store. Which I would not mind a MK XII going for like 99 proto salvage or something.
RIght now I have banked 99 of each of the general commodities (edc, proto salvage, Rare) in the hopes it will get added to the STF store. Which I would not mind a MK XII going for like 99 proto salvage or something.
Why the heck do people want XII gear to go for 20-100+ proto salvage each?
I mean, IMO I'd see like... maybe 80-100 EDC. or a few rare techs of that kind. Or a few salvage.
After reading a post one of my friends made, I just have to agree. 99% of the time when somebody does a ground elite run, they end up with junk not worthy of their time. It's a shame that friend literally doesn't play anymore due to sheer annoyance at the fact she saw others with full XII get proto drops, but not her.
Why the heck do people want XII gear to go for 20-100+ proto salvage each?
I mean, IMO I'd see like... maybe 80-100 EDC. or a few rare techs of that kind. Or a few salvage.
After reading a post one of my friends made, I just have to agree. 99% of the time when somebody does a ground elite run, they end up with junk not worthy of their time. It's a shame that friend literally doesn't play anymore due to sheer annoyance at the fact she saw others with full XII get proto drops, but not her.
well i,m feeling the same way 52 cure ground elite runs later still no prototype weapon tech drop for me. but i have managed to get the psg and armor one day after the other. but i,m gonna keep going for it till i get it. but my tac toon will probably be outfitted in mk12 maco once season 6 rolls out.
My question is has anyone seen any tech drops in the optional loot? If so I have yet to see any after playing through over 130 normal and elite STF! All my tech drops (MK X engine, shield, deflector /MX XI engine, deflector, and shield x 4 and notice no prototypes) has always been in my personal loot container. And how does the bloody roll system work? I nearly always loose out on team drops!
only time i stf anymore is if my fleetmates need a 5th, i have enough tech for 7 complete xii space sets, and 0 for ground. ive done prolly 800 -1000 space stf's and prolly 300-400 ground. i still have yet to see a ground xii drop. i didnt complete my first space set until around 500 completions and after my set was complete it seems its raining space xii tech. its almost as if ive broken the seal......
I have klingon toon. I got Omega set MkXI. Because... I ran 120 normal space stf. For 120 stf I got 15 rare borg salvage and 120 edc. Nothing else! :eek: Some week end I ran more than 17 normal space stf, one by one hoping getting good loot. But no way. After this I'm still running stf. Now I have 80 edc. I think I should play 30 space elite stf to get ground omega set MkXI. That's a really bad joke!!
Devs from cryptic studio. Don't you think it's time to increase the drops loot. To be honest I have less heart to play sto. It's not enjoyable anymore. playing sto is now hard working! You play and you get nothing.
Video game are based on this simple and easy rule. You work and you get. The reward must be equal to the effort provided by the player. In STO. It's not. You run more than 120 stf and you get nothing for your level.
The one thing I don't understand is why would a player get rare tech in elite STF? Don't tell me that it is a random drop because a player is playing elite STF for some reason. If someone wants random rare tech then they can play normal STF.
This might upset few but i'm probably equally frustrated at the drop rate. I got my first two MK XII Armor and Weapon even before i got my MK XI sets, funny enough i got these when i hardly knew how to play Elite stfs, just following other players around doing what they were doing, but now i have played almost 200 STFs and i'm still waiting for that PSG drop from Infected Ground. i keep getting MK XI Drops which i don't require anymore, and as for space i have gotten the MK XII Shields TWICE and the rest i don't know when i'll get them.
This thread is hilarious.It has " Official Complaint" but it is not made by someone working for Cryptic thus is not official.:rolleyes:
Now on topic:
The drop rate sucks because the number of sets suck.Two sets are not enough.If the game would have 20 sets and 60 STFs they would be able to make them easy to get and no one would " Officially Complain" about the drop rate.
What happens with the drop rate is just people ranting on the developer's forum "I want that set faster" .
-What you do after?
-After I get the set I will......I don't know .....:rolleyes:
Drop rates are good enough for how many stfs are.Maybe the system (drop) is not fair but that's a different story.
What it needs to change are the rewards.I don't have both Elite STF sets but I have few hundred EDC.There must be a better use for them than dilithium or doffs.That store (like the game :rolleyes: ) should have few more things in it.
I wonder you are absolutely right.
Cryptic devs do not care about us. In fact we all can complain. They don't care. What we are? Les than 10 players who are complaining. How much are happy not to get good loot. Much!! I guess Cryptic devs are laughing at us because we are complaining but we are still playing the game.
They don't care. What we are? Les than 10 players who are complaining. How much are happy not to get good loot. Much!! I guess Cryptic devs are laughing at us because we are complaining but we are still playing the game.
probably! or they are just busy playing SWTOR, WOW, DIABLO 3 or some other "better" games.
What happens with the drop rate is just people ranting on the developer's forum "I want that set faster" .
-What you do after?
-After I get the set I will......I don't know .....
It's not about how long it takes to get a set, it's about that even if you play alot, you got a chance of not having a MK XII part of a set.
It's not important to play the game, thats for sure, but you are robbed the feeling of accomplishment at the end.
any other serious game has developed new content by the time most people got their set...estimated 3-4 month that is.
And if you care to read some more posts, you could get a feeling why people complain about this random factor for the MK XII sets.
On this 15 pages, you will find some very good arguments and ideas to bring back the fun into grinding those sets.
The complain brought up, official or not, is very valid...since there are multiple posts about it since they got released.
Looking at my accolades and I've now completed 118 normal and elite space STFs, of that about half 40% were elites and mostly ISE and KASE. I just ran all three; ISE (optional completed) gave me in my personal loot container 2 rare borg salvage and a rare shield tech, KASE (optional failed) game me my first prototype deflector tech, and CSE (optional failed) gave me 2 rare borg salvage.
What I noticed was that in ISE, I didn't die and was dishing out the dps. KASE, I died once but my team died a lot more and I was dishing out a heaping amount of dps. CSE, I pulled guard duty so I didn't dish out the dps but I didn't die. Don't know if this was a coincidence or a pattern but my loot was far more rewarding than normal and I'm leaning more toward how well you do among your team which determines the greater your reward.
Looking at my accolades and I've now completed 118 normal and elite space STFs, of that about half 40% were elites and mostly ISE and KASE. I just ran all three; ISE (optional completed) gave me in my personal loot container 2 rare borg salvage and a rare shield tech, KASE (optional failed) game me my first prototype deflector tech, and CSE (optional failed) gave me 2 rare borg salvage.
What I noticed was that in ISE, I didn't die and was dishing out the dps. KASE, I died once but my team died a lot more and I was dishing out a heaping amount of dps. CSE, I pulled guard duty so I didn't dish out the dps but I didn't die. Don't know if this was a coincidence or a pattern but my loot was far more rewarding than normal and I'm leaning more toward how well you do among your team which determines the greater your reward.
i would disagree with that assessment, only because there is no way to know how much DPS you're putting out relative to the rest of your team. that is something that should be implemented though.
right now, were kind of guessing on if we dished out the most dps or not (you can say escort a put out more than sci vessel b- but what about escort vs escort? cant distinguish).
and the thing about dying- i tend to agree with you, but ive also seen STF's where the person who died most also go the proto tech at the end. that could also be the exception, not the rule so im not sure.
Comments
its a shame!
That's why I say again and again this such loot rule is really unfair.
Another example. Yesterday I ran 3 ISE with optionnals. I didn't get loot from optionnals (3 loot for 5 people) and I got 2 edc per STF.
I don't understand why Devs made so inequitable rule for loot. BTW why the same loot is dropped again and again. I really don't care about Common Borg Shield Tech. I got 4 Common Borg Shield Tech. It's TRIBBLE! My aegis set is better!
I mean, starving players of MkXII gear would result in it being snapped up if it suddenly appeared in the dilithium store, wouldn't it*?
* I realise that a good number of forum users would say that they wouldn't, but the general playerbase who DON'T visit the forums - the sort of people who buy lockbox keys frequently - almost definitely would.
I only need the Proto PSG. I have duplicates of all other items (at least) and ZERO proto PSG. You can not tell me the odds are even on all the STF. I usually get in an average of 2-4 IGE a day and have for months now and have not had a single drop. It's gotten so bad I am on autopilot when playing it because I have done it so much.: and not have to think it out.
Well, the Dilithium store was just an example, and there are other ways that they could make the MkXII gear a little more readily available.
As I said though, I get the impression that thecurrent absense of frequent MkXII gear could mean that something new is coming along, and starving us of said gear will make us want whatever new stuff comes along even more.
This has already been confirmed by Gozer on the STOKED interview, Mk XII will be purchaseable, no idea of cost was given but I am hoping that all and any STF loot, EDCs, rare tech, proto salvage etc will be part exchangeable.
I grinded like a mo fo on one toon to get my proto tech and I won't be doing that again. After I get my Omega XI gear complete I'm taking a break from STFing and go Accolade hunting. I'll still do them from time to time, but just not as much.
This past weekend STF population was really down. I know it was a holiday weekend, but the numbers were way down. So I am unsure if it because of the hoilday or STFs are starting to get boring for everyone. I'm probably not the only one that is or plans on taking a break from the STFs. I haven't seen a lot of the EliteSTFers I am used to see all the time.
After saying all this I highly doubt they will change the drop rate and from what I can tell they never did in the first place and even after saying they had. They want and need us to grind, the longer we grind the longer we are in STO and the more likely to buy something off the CStore.
Well, that does (in a way) explain why the drop rate has been barely existant lately!
Hence my comment agreeing with a friend that anybody who defends the current setup is an utter fool.
You work you *** off to get it? NOTHING.
He just hops in for fun? Gets full XII ground set.
It's impossible to truly work toward earning the XII set currently, I'd rather see hundreds of people in XII, and have it be earnable, then to see a few and go "Damn lucky *******s."
Are you just now catching on to this? And it's not like they're sitting around laughing at us, I suspect that the truth is closer to 'we don't figure in to the equation'. More than likely our experience and growing spite and hate for our dev team is utterly without meaning or interest to them.
Why the heck do people want XII gear to go for 20-100+ proto salvage each?
I mean, IMO I'd see like... maybe 80-100 EDC. or a few rare techs of that kind. Or a few salvage.
After reading a post one of my friends made, I just have to agree. 99% of the time when somebody does a ground elite run, they end up with junk not worthy of their time. It's a shame that friend literally doesn't play anymore due to sheer annoyance at the fact she saw others with full XII get proto drops, but not her.
Seeing a lot of that.
The gear is not worth the time people... wake up and smell the coffee!
People still do STFs? *Peter Griffin* heh heh heh heh!
Devs from cryptic studio. Don't you think it's time to increase the drops loot. To be honest I have less heart to play sto. It's not enjoyable anymore. playing sto is now hard working! You play and you get nothing.
Video game are based on this simple and easy rule. You work and you get. The reward must be equal to the effort provided by the player. In STO. It's not. You run more than 120 stf and you get nothing for your level.
why can't we have more STF maps???
Now on topic:
The drop rate sucks because the number of sets suck.Two sets are not enough.If the game would have 20 sets and 60 STFs they would be able to make them easy to get and no one would " Officially Complain" about the drop rate.
What happens with the drop rate is just people ranting on the developer's forum "I want that set faster" .
-What you do after?
-After I get the set I will......I don't know .....:rolleyes:
Drop rates are good enough for how many stfs are.Maybe the system (drop) is not fair but that's a different story.
What it needs to change are the rewards.I don't have both Elite STF sets but I have few hundred EDC.There must be a better use for them than dilithium or doffs.That store (like the game :rolleyes: ) should have few more things in it.
Cryptic devs do not care about us. In fact we all can complain. They don't care. What we are? Les than 10 players who are complaining. How much are happy not to get good loot. Much!! I guess Cryptic devs are laughing at us because we are complaining but we are still playing the game.
probably! or they are just busy playing SWTOR, WOW, DIABLO 3 or some other "better" games.
It's not about how long it takes to get a set, it's about that even if you play alot, you got a chance of not having a MK XII part of a set.
It's not important to play the game, thats for sure, but you are robbed the feeling of accomplishment at the end.
any other serious game has developed new content by the time most people got their set...estimated 3-4 month that is.
And if you care to read some more posts, you could get a feeling why people complain about this random factor for the MK XII sets.
On this 15 pages, you will find some very good arguments and ideas to bring back the fun into grinding those sets.
The complain brought up, official or not, is very valid...since there are multiple posts about it since they got released.
What I noticed was that in ISE, I didn't die and was dishing out the dps. KASE, I died once but my team died a lot more and I was dishing out a heaping amount of dps. CSE, I pulled guard duty so I didn't dish out the dps but I didn't die. Don't know if this was a coincidence or a pattern but my loot was far more rewarding than normal and I'm leaning more toward how well you do among your team which determines the greater your reward.
i would disagree with that assessment, only because there is no way to know how much DPS you're putting out relative to the rest of your team. that is something that should be implemented though.
right now, were kind of guessing on if we dished out the most dps or not (you can say escort a put out more than sci vessel b- but what about escort vs escort? cant distinguish).
and the thing about dying- i tend to agree with you, but ive also seen STF's where the person who died most also go the proto tech at the end. that could also be the exception, not the rule so im not sure.