I am pretty sure they are getting an extra console slot, not consoles. Built in powers were originally done with a lost slot as compensation. I would imagine cruisers will get one additional Eng slot, Escorts and additional Tac slot, and Sci an additional Sci slot. The powers will likely be on universal consoles with a Cruiser/Escort/Science ship only restriction, based on what type of ship it came with.
extra console slot, not consoles huh? i think you meant to say extra station slot, not consoles. but the patch notes says consoles. the retrofits have as many of their type of station powers as they can possibly have already, they couldn't push that any farther. i doubt these ships will have 5 of the same console type, that's a bit unprecedented. no, one of the consoles that they currently have 2 of will get a third, and if the galaxy retrofit doesn't get a 3rd tactical console like the negvar has, i will be VERY disappointed.
these VA ship consoles couldn't be interchangeable, they are too unique to the ship that comes with them. plus, your already at level cap to get them, so you wouldn't be using lower tier ships at all.
Currently, T5 consoles are restricted to the specific ship they came from. This was done so there would be parity for all ships with a power throughout the game. This also allows the player to utilize this extra console slot for something besides the power if they choose.
Awww, so no Sovereign with saucer separation, even though the model appears to support it?
Nothing about exploration?? No alternatives to daily only sorry les content for you? What about the linear story progression issues with GO and B'Tran? What about Aid the Planet missions serving no real function at all now?
All these are still very unresolved issues that we have nothing but silence for. I am trying to remain positive but if these things are not going to be addressed...
I'm of the opinion that silver players shouldn't get any tokens for ships and should rely entirely on dilithium to get their ships. Free players should have to work at getting the next ship if they want one while paying players should be be able to move on to a new ship without as much work.
The gold stuff came from outcry, the silver 2 plaque approach probably came from testing data. I'm guessing a lot of people gave up when they hit Comm. with no ship.
Currently, T5 consoles are restricted to the specific ship they came from. This was done so there would be parity for all ships with a power throughout the game. This also allows the player to utilize this extra console slot for something besides the power if they choose.
Silver only gets a Lt. Cdr and Cdr ship... you also get a Captain and RA (by far, the most expensive). So instead of spending RD (refined Dilithium) on your ship like the Silvers, you can instead spend it on gear, which at the higher levels becomes more and more important. It's ok to run common and green gear for pvp on a Lt Cdr or even a Cdr ship until you get mission rewards.... not so for Captain and higher.
Honestly, I think I can live with this. VA still might need a discount or something, but I'd like to see the current VA ships moved to RA-U, and a full Tier 6 added for VA (Odyssey, new Escort, new Sci).
I agree with almost all you are saying. It seems like a good compromise. In fact, I also like the fact that there are no moe "free" VA ships. This makes sense for the endgame
I will still have to have a closer look at the new delithium prices for components., but also here it seems to be going in the right direcction.
I think they said that some of the powers would be made into consoles. I'm.. not sure if the cloak would count. The KDF players would rightly scream bloody murder if that happened. The phaser lance might be put into a weapons slot, but... then again maybe not? That's something I can see not being consolized. (I have difficulty seeing the cloak being put into a console, too, but odder things have happened.) Hard to tell, future is cloudy, ask again later. But some good questions.
You have no idea how irritated I would be if I had to lose a weapons slot for the lance when we as players fought so hard to get the same number of slots that the assault cruiser has.
well, didn't see anything in the patch notes so, hoping strongly that KDF BOFF's are getting awarded like the should (wont help my KDF, she's already AT LtGen) , that the disparity betewwn Fed Diplo, and KDF Maruding got straitened out.
And the or'kang gets added (long with nuff Cp to get the silly thing.. I just want the skin for my Vorcha retrofit more then anything else.. it'll look real nice with the KDF honor guard set)
Currently, T5 consoles are restricted to the specific ship they came from. This was done so there would be parity for all ships with a power throughout the game. This also allows the player to utilize this extra console slot for something besides the power if they choose.
I have no problems with this as it becomes our choice if we want to use that power or not.
Example ... Multi-vector assault mode ... I can do without it and can by simply removing the console.
Currently, T5 consoles are restricted to the specific ship they came from. This was done so there would be parity for all ships with a power throughout the game. This also allows the player to utilize this extra console slot for something besides the power if they choose.
To clarify:
Is the console enabeling the Multi-Vector Advanced Escort to split apart a T5 console in this regard?
Can it no longer be installed on the Read Admiral Advanced Escort (for the maybe more desirable BOFF slots depending on playstyle)?
Or is this still possible?
What happens to the console item if it is installed on the RA ship when F2P is patched in on Holodeck? (Possibly bugging into oblivion then?)
All this asked in case the MVAE was bought with emblems and not unlocked in the C-Store.
As it is no account unlock a possible bug (loosing the console item as in the scenario above e.g.) does not leave the option of dismissing the ship and claiming it again.
How about giving some C-Points for a Vet Reward or could also give a ship plaque or even a discount to get one of the Tier 5+ ships off the C-Store. Honestly its not gonna affect me too much since I have gotten the ships I want on Holodeck but I think the lifers deserve something special after all its not cheap buying a lifetime sub
Is the issue of KDF players not getting bridge officers at designated levels being addressed?
Is this a bug, or a new feature to make KDF leveling even more "challanging"? (i.e. frustrating)
Having to buy subpar bridge officers with dilithium just to be able to crew a ship is VERY frustrating. I have looked at the threads about this issue and have not seen a response as to whether or not this is being looked at. Will KDF players who have been affected by this be able able to receive the bridge officers at some point, or will they have to restart a new character to get them?
Currently, T5 consoles are restricted to the specific ship they came from. This was done so there would be parity for all ships with a power throughout the game. This also allows the player to utilize this extra console slot for something besides the power if they choose.
That kind of defeats the purpose of the consoles. It makes sense for somethings, Ablative armor, saucer separation and spinal phaser lance due to model requirements. But the cloak should come off. Being able to cloak any ship would be awesome, and really not that unbalancing.
The task for the The Odyssey Class ship as a reward has been a couple of different things. But the gist is that it would be a reward for a series of non-tirivla missions or events. The gist is that the Odyssey Class would be available to all player in game. And I assume it will be the same for the eventual Klingon Flagship, as well.
We'll see what happens, but I doubt that will be the case anymore. I wouldn't be remotely suprised if this is held back to be a Tier 6 ship for the upcoming level cap increase that was planned for season 5.
That kind of defeats the purpose of the consoles. It makes sense for somethings, Ablative armor, saucer separation and spinal phaser lance due to model requirements. But the cloak should come off. Being able to cloak any ship would be awesome, and really not that unbalancing.
I agree (it is only a standard cloak), but I believe they would have to do art work for the shield cloaking effect on every Federation ship that could use this if the cloak becomes a console.
Still no raise on the dilithium cap... shame..... I understand no VA ship tokens.... BUT can we make it a 200 day vet rewards, and another one at 600... 2 free VA ships if u sub for 600 days... and we should extend this token to all ships excluding MVAM, Gal X, and Nebula.
Also can we make STF rewards refined dilithithium again... also an idea to have random loot drops of 100-3000 dilithium ore to drop in an STF
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extra console slot, not consoles huh? i think you meant to say extra station slot, not consoles. but the patch notes says consoles. the retrofits have as many of their type of station powers as they can possibly have already, they couldn't push that any farther. i doubt these ships will have 5 of the same console type, that's a bit unprecedented. no, one of the consoles that they currently have 2 of will get a third, and if the galaxy retrofit doesn't get a 3rd tactical console like the negvar has, i will be VERY disappointed.
these VA ship consoles couldn't be interchangeable, they are too unique to the ship that comes with them. plus, your already at level cap to get them, so you wouldn't be using lower tier ships at all.
All these are still very unresolved issues that we have nothing but silence for. I am trying to remain positive but if these things are not going to be addressed...
The gold stuff came from outcry, the silver 2 plaque approach probably came from testing data. I'm guessing a lot of people gave up when they hit Comm. with no ship.
yes but what ARE the new console layouts?
I agree with almost all you are saying. It seems like a good compromise. In fact, I also like the fact that there are no moe "free" VA ships. This makes sense for the endgame
I will still have to have a closer look at the new delithium prices for components., but also here it seems to be going in the right direcction.
THANK GOD tired of cheaters stealing stuff because they could. For ALL you cheaters SEE what you get for cheating
Now please bring tirbble up so I can keep leveling
I'm just glad this was addressed BEFORE everything gets pushed to holodeck. Imagine the outcry if the SFA event had gone live the way it was...
*shudders*
Perish the thought.
You have no idea how irritated I would be if I had to lose a weapons slot for the lance when we as players fought so hard to get the same number of slots that the assault cruiser has.
That would be a downer.
And the or'kang gets added (long with nuff Cp to get the silly thing.. I just want the skin for my Vorcha retrofit more then anything else.. it'll look real nice with the KDF honor guard set)
I have no problems with this as it becomes our choice if we want to use that power or not.
Example ... Multi-vector assault mode ... I can do without it and can by simply removing the console.
Starfleet Academy EventPlayers can no longer use other players particle puzzle once when it spawns. (cheaters)
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As a lifer I've still have reserved judgement. But, This change is positive as it shows Cryptic is LISTENING.
I myself can get within 60 minutes 142 to 182 with each event WITHOUT CHEATING.
Like the guys at STOKED say,"BELLY CLAP"!!!!
I loath this idea unless they add a fifth forward weapon slot, which I doubt.
It would be removing something from the class that we are all use to.
If they remove that weapon slot just to slot the lance... I say give us a Lt. Cmdr tactical officer in its place to compensate.
But who wants to see her with a stronger BO slot? ... so .... I like the idea of it going into a device slot instead.
To clarify:
Is the console enabeling the Multi-Vector Advanced Escort to split apart a T5 console in this regard?
Can it no longer be installed on the Read Admiral Advanced Escort (for the maybe more desirable BOFF slots depending on playstyle)?
Or is this still possible?
What happens to the console item if it is installed on the RA ship when F2P is patched in on Holodeck? (Possibly bugging into oblivion then?)
All this asked in case the MVAE was bought with emblems and not unlocked in the C-Store.
As it is no account unlock a possible bug (loosing the console item as in the scenario above e.g.) does not leave the option of dismissing the ship and claiming it again.
Is this a bug, or a new feature to make KDF leveling even more "challanging"? (i.e. frustrating)
Having to buy subpar bridge officers with dilithium just to be able to crew a ship is VERY frustrating. I have looked at the threads about this issue and have not seen a response as to whether or not this is being looked at. Will KDF players who have been affected by this be able able to receive the bridge officers at some point, or will they have to restart a new character to get them?
:mad:
That kind of defeats the purpose of the consoles. It makes sense for somethings, Ablative armor, saucer separation and spinal phaser lance due to model requirements. But the cloak should come off. Being able to cloak any ship would be awesome, and really not that unbalancing.
We'll see what happens, but I doubt that will be the case anymore. I wouldn't be remotely suprised if this is held back to be a Tier 6 ship for the upcoming level cap increase that was planned for season 5.
Yep, pretty much what I was implying.
I agree (it is only a standard cloak), but I believe they would have to do art work for the shield cloaking effect on every Federation ship that could use this if the cloak becomes a console.
Also can we make STF rewards refined dilithithium again... also an idea to have random loot drops of 100-3000 dilithium ore to drop in an STF
Yup, me too. Login, patched up and suprise still in maintance.
Wow! Now that is positive action if I have Ever seen it!