HMM, so Roach counts as 9 players on a normal day and 18 on a good one?
And it certainly wasn'y PuGing in the Ques today against a tight TSi group ( I just didn't expect it.....crickets. I'm sorry I can't help but think Monty Python everytime I say the name.) and some very good random Ques.
I sucked Solar Wind. Couldn't even dent Zorena or Mai (one of her friends)
From a content standpoint we're well on our way. We have official, developer sanction missions that take us deep into fed territory and strike at the heart of their ship building operations, freeing prisoners of war to regain their honor. The federation sits on the defensive moving only when we do.
why cant we just kinda have our own war... no comunications with feds dont help feds always kill feds on site whining in pvp means more killing and so on......guess we arlready do this as much as we can.... hmm
feds are a bunch of cry babys and are trecherous
i have an idea isnt there a way to be able to take your kdf fleets all the way to earth i have seen kdf ships do it before but was unsure how to do it
After the diplomacy changes allow entrance into Sirius we can form a mighty ball of fear around Sol. =p
I would like nothing more than to stand at Starfleet headquarters and raise the banner of the Empire while toasting our victory over the broken bodies of our enemies!.
Qapla Batlh Je!
Marok
(and shortly after that get blown to pieces by a starfleet task force with ten thousand battleships)
Most of the posters on here seem to be forgeting (or just don't know) that the Undine were the true cause of the upheaval and that Starfleet & the KDF teamed up to stop them AND the UFP stepped in to save the Klingons from the Borg in the STF's.
With the Federation going out of it's way to help the KDF against the Borg, wouldn't it be dishonorable for the Klingons to turn their backs on them yet again?
The Federation came your aid.
Why would the Klingons seek war with those whom have only tried to help them?
True, they turned their backs first in regards to the Undine infiltration of the KDF, but the UFP chose to redeem themselves by saving the Klingons from the Borg in the STF's.
Why would the Klingon Empire still choose to crush people whom have proven themselves friends to the Empire so many times over?
That would be no different than the Romulans turning on the UFP after it tried to help them rebuild their Empire.
By still declaring war against the UFP after it has tried time and again to be allies, the Klingons are acting no better then the Romulans.
This makes no sense.
P.S. Maybe THIS is why we have the Romulans coming in as a playable faction being pushed so hard.
THEY are the REAL enemy . . . of the UFP AND the Klingon Empire.
...We have official, developer sanction missions that take us deep into fed territory and strike at the heart of their ship building operations, freeing prisoners of war to regain their honor.
Last I heard, from General Worf, "A Klingon would rather die than be taken prisoner. A prisoner has no honor."
Think about that.
A REAL Klingon mission would entail KILLING those prisoners at their request in order for them to regain their honor.
Someone could argue that the UFP betrayed the KDF Fed Alliance even when Starfleet did nothing against the Undine even when presented hard evidende.
I just said that.
I also said that the UFP battled the Undine with the KDF (when you fight the Undine Dreadnaught for the Dreadnaught Accolade), and they attempted to redeem themslves by rescuing Klingons from the invading Brog (In the STF "The Cure", I think. It was either The Cure or Infected. I don't remember since I haven't played them in months.).
One day, when the feds are all standing at the tailor, adjusting their many uniform options and checking to make sure their female boffs have max boob slider effect, the brave men and women and aliens of the KDF will launch their assault on ESD, walking right past the distracted Officers of the Federation, into Quinn's room, where we will put the trill out of his misery (he needs it, hemorrhoids keeping him from sitting in his chair). Then we'll waltz into the Transporter room, beam down to Starfleet Academy, and lay waste to their training facilities by replacing all the drinks at the 602 club with Blood Wine. Then we'll walk over the golden gate bridge en mass, and do some aggressive negotiations at Starfleet Command. It will be glorious!
Actually there was one game where KDF could conquer the Feds: Klingon Academy.
Looking back to it it greatly represented the Federation we have in this game.
Last I heard, from General Worf, "A Klingon would rather die than be taken prisoner. A prisoner has no honor."
Think about that.
A REAL Klingon mission would entail KILLING those prisoners at their request in order for them to regain their honor.
Incedibly one-dimensional.
Kruge killed his gunner in Star Trek 3 because he blew up the Grissom even though Kruge wanted prisoners.
Garak was also surprised when he and WOrf found the real Martok in a Dominion camp on "In Purgatory's Shadow" where he also also wondered why he had not killed himself and Worf said "Not when there are still enemies to fight" and Martok added "Or hope of escape".
There are also cases like Klag's father from "A Matter of Honor" regarding whom Klag continued to hold a grudge in the "IKS Gorkon" novel series because his father could have returned to active duty to regain is honor trough service.
Which also fits what Martok did: regain his honor by service.
If that had not been possible, I think he would have either killed himself after escape (in the Mauk-to'Vor ritual)
or his own people would have killed him for dishonoring them
or they would have prevented him from service because of his dishonor.
But appearently Klingons are not as 1-d as you make them out to be.
Besides, why waste perfectly good labour force by executing them instead of sending them back home to be tried as enemies of the state and have them sent to Rura Penthe?
The problem the Empire has is that we have 2 houses of fools peTaQs leading us, Duras is the biggest fool of them all. It is time for the Empire to get ride of fools and traitors, it is time to restablish the house of Molor, the only house who knew how to rule the Klingon Empire.
...appearently Klingons are not as 1-d as you make them out to be.
I'm just quoting what the writers had Worf say.
Don't blame me because a ton of the official creators and/or writers can't make up their minds and/or agree.
Using the logic you just used in saying that I was making them out to be 1-dimensional, I'm surprised you're not blaming me for them having two different appearances from TOS & beyond.
Same situation. I didn't make THAT up either. I just state an observation of what the official creators have already put in placefor me to observe and repeat.
I'm just quoting what the writers had Worf say.
Don't blame me because a ton of the official creators and/or writers can't make up their minds and/or agree.
I don't blame you for using what the creators said.
But you could have included both points of view that were represented, showing more than one dimension.
Instead you chose to only unclude one, thus you only showed one dimension and therefore my statement.
I don't blame people for using the material presented.
But I do hope you don't blame me for pointing out that there is more to the issue than you made it out to be in your post.
You had the choice to include more information and more dimensions to the matter than you did.
That's all I aimed at.
I don't make posts to annoy people (at least not intentionally).
Using the logic you just used in saying that I was making them out to be 1-dimensional, I'm surprised you're not blaming me for them having two different appearances from TOS & beyond.
Same situation. I didn't make THAT up either. I just state an observation of what the official creators have already put in placefor me to observe and repeat.
I hope my response to the first part shows you misunderstood my reasoning therfore I hope you understand that I read the second part but don't feel the need to write up a response to it.
Has anybody every bothered to think that possibily Worf's outlook on what it means to be a Klingon and the walk the path of blood was as tainted and off target as any other federation member and the TNG series showed him growing into "what it means to be a Klingon"?
Meaning that his observations where as skewed as any humans in the begining and only grew into a better understanding through the years to culminate at the end of the series with a proper perspective of what it means to be a warrior and look for honor.
The problem the Empire has is that we have 2 houses of fools peTaQs leading us, Duras is the biggest fool of them all. It is time for the Empire to get ride of fools and traitors, it is time to restablish the house of Molor, the only house who knew how to rule the Klingon Empire.
*K'xar clears her throat*
Yes, while the Duras are fools, and Torg even more so, it does not mean we need another enemy where none existed before. The real foes are out there for the Empire to fight, there is no need to waste warriors. Although, the constant infighting makes me almost glad that the House of Duras destroyed my House, that way I do not have to hear the constant accusations of either side.
Has anybody every bothered to think that possibily Worf's outlook on what it means to be a Klingon and the walk the path of blood was as tainted and off target as any other federation member and the TNG series showed him growing into "what it means to be a Klingon"?
Meaning that his observations where as skewed as any humans in the begining and only grew into a better understanding through the years to culminate at the end of the series with a proper perspective of what it means to be a warrior and look for honor.
Very well said.
It's like people believing that the warrior's path is the only path among Klingons.
I love the Klingon novels that are out there as they tap some of these things.
Toss in that warriors can be warriors on many different levels. .... Gorkon was not a warrior in the traditional sense but he was a warrior that led his people well as he fought for them.
Among my favorite episodes were the Redemption episodes where Worf actually serves among Klingons and realizes a lot about the Klingon spirit.
For me, it was the DS9 episodes that saw him truly grow into being Klingon.
It's like people believing that the warrior's path is the only path among Klingons.
I love the Klingon novels that are out there as they tap some of these things.
Toss in that warriors can be warriors on many different levels. .... Gorkon was not a warrior in the traditional sense but he was a warrior that led his people well as he fought for them.
Among my favorite episodes were the Redemption episodes where Worf actually serves among Klingons and realizes a lot about the Klingon spirit.
For me, it was the DS9 episodes that saw him truly grow into being Klingon.
Very true. Not all paths lead to the River of Blood and Worf learned (and taught us) that Honor is a personal choice first and not just a thing which defines Warriors.
Outside of the Books, I like this interactive game as a good example of Klingon sociality. http://youtu.be/hVo2kVVChU0
(though i do find it funny they Knife the Scientist out of Klingon short temperedness"
Spoken like a true warrior Roach! I'm proud to report that the crew of the Klingon Assault Group"s IKV Emperor's Hand "conquered" the Creation Chicago Convention last weekend, My parmachi (and now 2nd officer) brought much honor and glory to the empire! As did the Klingon warriors (cast of Klingon Christmas Carol) We were all invitied back next year, All of the Star trek actors present were VERY impressed with our costuming and make-up work! It was an honor to have star trek greats like Jonathan Frakes Shout out loud during our photo-op with himself and Brent Spiner to the crowd "I'm just lovin these Klingons! Qapla!
Every single star there had some positive comments for us! We eneded up as finalists in the cotume contests. It was a Glorious weekend to be a Klingon! Pictures posted at Klingon space under the name Marok. Oh one more thing I wound up in the daily herald too! with pics and an interview!
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Stop that... no one is allowed to be more sarcastic than I am.
too bad it wonk block a batleth from piercing you skulls
I was talking from my own personal viewpoint.
Only if I have the backing of my fellow warriors and a really really patient healer.
(i tend to be twitchy in combat)
And it certainly wasn'y PuGing in the Ques today against a tight TSi group ( I just didn't expect it.....crickets. I'm sorry I can't help but think Monty Python everytime I say the name.) and some very good random Ques.
I sucked Solar Wind. Couldn't even dent Zorena or Mai (one of her friends)
crickets = http://youtu.be/Ixgc_FGam3s
(and shortly after that get blown to pieces by a starfleet task force with ten thousand battleships)
With the Federation going out of it's way to help the KDF against the Borg, wouldn't it be dishonorable for the Klingons to turn their backs on them yet again?
The Federation came your aid.
Why would the Klingons seek war with those whom have only tried to help them?
True, they turned their backs first in regards to the Undine infiltration of the KDF, but the UFP chose to redeem themselves by saving the Klingons from the Borg in the STF's.
Why would the Klingon Empire still choose to crush people whom have proven themselves friends to the Empire so many times over?
That would be no different than the Romulans turning on the UFP after it tried to help them rebuild their Empire.
By still declaring war against the UFP after it has tried time and again to be allies, the Klingons are acting no better then the Romulans.
This makes no sense.
P.S. Maybe THIS is why we have the Romulans coming in as a playable faction being pushed so hard.
THEY are the REAL enemy . . . of the UFP AND the Klingon Empire.
;-)
Last I heard, from General Worf, "A Klingon would rather die than be taken prisoner. A prisoner has no honor."
Think about that.
A REAL Klingon mission would entail KILLING those prisoners at their request in order for them to regain their honor.
I just said that.
I also said that the UFP battled the Undine with the KDF (when you fight the Undine Dreadnaught for the Dreadnaught Accolade), and they attempted to redeem themslves by rescuing Klingons from the invading Brog (In the STF "The Cure", I think. It was either The Cure or Infected. I don't remember since I haven't played them in months.).
Looking back to it it greatly represented the Federation we have in this game.
And failing in the ability to not be captured alive, they are honor bound to escape even if it costs them thier lives.
Basically , Do not go queitly is a racial trait.
Is there even a Klingon word for "Quiet"?
Incedibly one-dimensional.
Kruge killed his gunner in Star Trek 3 because he blew up the Grissom even though Kruge wanted prisoners.
Garak was also surprised when he and WOrf found the real Martok in a Dominion camp on "In Purgatory's Shadow" where he also also wondered why he had not killed himself and Worf said "Not when there are still enemies to fight" and Martok added "Or hope of escape".
There are also cases like Klag's father from "A Matter of Honor" regarding whom Klag continued to hold a grudge in the "IKS Gorkon" novel series because his father could have returned to active duty to regain is honor trough service.
Which also fits what Martok did: regain his honor by service.
If that had not been possible, I think he would have either killed himself after escape (in the Mauk-to'Vor ritual)
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mauk-to%27Vor
or his own people would have killed him for dishonoring them
or they would have prevented him from service because of his dishonor.
But appearently Klingons are not as 1-d as you make them out to be.
Besides, why waste perfectly good labour force by executing them instead of sending them back home to be tried as enemies of the state and have them sent to Rura Penthe?
Right around the time the game starts being called (In Klingon) Star Trek Online. hehehehe!
So then whatever remains of the kdf after about 1/2 of us jump over to the IRF will have some ample fed killing time.
Hopefully that faction gets more attention then we did, either way its going to pull a ton of people.
I'm just quoting what the writers had Worf say.
Don't blame me because a ton of the official creators and/or writers can't make up their minds and/or agree.
Using the logic you just used in saying that I was making them out to be 1-dimensional, I'm surprised you're not blaming me for them having two different appearances from TOS & beyond.
Same situation. I didn't make THAT up either. I just state an observation of what the official creators have already put in placefor me to observe and repeat.
I don't blame you for using what the creators said.
But you could have included both points of view that were represented, showing more than one dimension.
Instead you chose to only unclude one, thus you only showed one dimension and therefore my statement.
I don't blame people for using the material presented.
But I do hope you don't blame me for pointing out that there is more to the issue than you made it out to be in your post.
You had the choice to include more information and more dimensions to the matter than you did.
That's all I aimed at.
I don't make posts to annoy people (at least not intentionally).
I hope my response to the first part shows you misunderstood my reasoning therfore I hope you understand that I read the second part but don't feel the need to write up a response to it.
Meaning that his observations where as skewed as any humans in the begining and only grew into a better understanding through the years to culminate at the end of the series with a proper perspective of what it means to be a warrior and look for honor.
*K'xar clears her throat*
Yes, while the Duras are fools, and Torg even more so, it does not mean we need another enemy where none existed before. The real foes are out there for the Empire to fight, there is no need to waste warriors. Although, the constant infighting makes me almost glad that the House of Duras destroyed my House, that way I do not have to hear the constant accusations of either side.
*taps her communicator* Leonidas, one to beam up.
Very well said.
It's like people believing that the warrior's path is the only path among Klingons.
I love the Klingon novels that are out there as they tap some of these things.
Toss in that warriors can be warriors on many different levels. .... Gorkon was not a warrior in the traditional sense but he was a warrior that led his people well as he fought for them.
Among my favorite episodes were the Redemption episodes where Worf actually serves among Klingons and realizes a lot about the Klingon spirit.
For me, it was the DS9 episodes that saw him truly grow into being Klingon.
Very true. Not all paths lead to the River of Blood and Worf learned (and taught us) that Honor is a personal choice first and not just a thing which defines Warriors.
Outside of the Books, I like this interactive game as a good example of Klingon sociality.
http://youtu.be/hVo2kVVChU0
(though i do find it funny they Knife the Scientist out of Klingon short temperedness"
Every single star there had some positive comments for us! We eneded up as finalists in the cotume contests. It was a Glorious weekend to be a Klingon! Pictures posted at Klingon space under the name Marok. Oh one more thing I wound up in the daily herald too! with pics and an interview!
Qapla batlh je!
Marok