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New Ships wanted for the C Store

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited September 2011 in C-Store, ZEN, and Promotions
Hi guys ... I wanted to get some feedback hoping the Guys will put this into the game .. one ship i have always wanted still do ...Is the Constalation Class .. aka Uss Stargazer or Uss Hathaway...I never liked the new one .. and not to mention the constellation class was bada** what do you guys think?

what other ships would you like to see added to the game .. and one other thing i would like to see all federationships to have at least have one Universal bridge officer slot added to each ship at a Lieutenant commander level or higher... cause l honestly i would love to even use my older ships in higher level missions :)

P.S. just makes them useful agian:)
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Please click one of the links in my signature for my idea based on it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DecadeComplete wrote:
    Please click one of the links in my signature for my idea based on it.

    this is the 3rd threed asking for a end game Connie and I want one too
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Actually this is for a T5 constellation.

    The 2nd link in my sig provides my idea for said ship to be in game. I'm hoping Logan and Geko look at it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Make upgradable ships somethign you can unlock at level-cap. Make it done through crafting, and a huge grind. Then sell an insta upgrade token in the c-store. Everyone will win. You can upgrade any ship in game to end-game. Adds another thing to do at end-game for those wishing more. it will add more variety to end-game ships. and players will get to fly their favorite ship as it should be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    jam062307 wrote: »
    Make upgradable ships somethign you can unlock at level-cap. Make it done through crafting, and a huge grind. Then sell an insta upgrade token in the c-store. Everyone will win. You can upgrade any ship in game to end-game. Adds another thing to do at end-game for those wishing more. it will add more variety to end-game ships. and players will get to fly their favorite ship as it should be.

    Version this have been on people wish sence Beta. Eveyone was major mad at Cryptic for not having this in game and they lost a lot of people over it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Nothing against the Constellation, she was a pretty ship for her time but I'd much rather see cryptic continue to evolve down the line, like they've done with the new Galaxy and Vor'cha varients. Its time to stop looking at the past and focus on new starship designs that aren't connected to any of the older ships. The old ships, like the NX01, connie, constellation, miranda, and Excelsior need to be put back into retirement and allowed to rest in peace. Now I'm not one of those that hates the older ships, Excelsior is my 2nd fav fed ship and 3rd overall. The first being the Galaxy which is ready to become retired since the Venture has been brought into service, same goes for my 2nd fav ship, the Vor'cha.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Why not work with both? Past and Future. I mean CapnLogan pretty much has said on every podcast hes been on that hes down for that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    He maybe down for it but in the end it isn't up to CaptLogan, its up to CBS and they've already expressed that there won't be a T5 Connie. I honestly feel that the Excelsior will be the last of the older ships to get a refit to T5 (or T6 when it comes). Seeing what CaptLogan did with the Venture makes me feel that thats the direction the coming ship models with be heading. I've got nothing against the older ships, like I said the Excelsior is on of my top fav ships, but even I was surprised that they made a T5 version of the ship when it woulda made more sense to keep it just at T3, to avoid those horrid quad-nacelle beasts lol. It woulda been more accurate to the timeline if they had kept it at T3. Ya have the Miranda at T1, Constitution at T2, Excelsior at T3, Galaxy at T4, and Sov at T5. Now when they add the Ambassador class, I'd think it would make more sense for them to remove the T4 Galaxy and slide the Ambassador in that slot to show the evolution of the Enterprise, even more so if you have the TOS T1 connie.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Anything that has been in the franchise that has been named enterprise should have the right to be used at endgame. future this future that. Well in the future we can restore things from the past. its a big hobby to a lot of people. CBS may have said no but that doesn't mean I'm not going to continue to fight for it. Sure I'm a fan of the Constitution. But not the TOS one. I'm a fan of the TMP-Onward one. it was originally going to be picards ship before the constellation was designed. also the directors have all states stuff about "Hero ships" as to not confuse people. Restore the past. Don't just bury it. .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    That Constitution is already in game at T2, making it a T5 ships doesn't make any sense. It wouldn't have any of the specs to make it remotely comparible to any of the T5 cruisers, it has neither the hull, mass, or fire-power. Its an old ship and just as we do today, she needs to either remain as a training vessel or simply mothballed and allowed to enjoy her retirement. To make the Constitution into a T5 ship would be like the US Navy taking the USS Constitution out of Boston Harbor and transform it into a modern day battleship. Just not realistic and waste of resources. Like I said CBS has already shot down the idea of a T5 connie so I'd really doubt that a T5 Constellation would make it into the game. You don't restore the past, you preserve it, you put the into a museum to observe and honor it, not resurrect it.

    Now if the Constellation were implemented into the lower tiers, like T2 or T3 then that'd be more reasonable and probably more doable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    the tiers are messed up. people dont get to use their favorite ships because they always have to replace it. I don't give a cardassian what makes sense in a canon spec or not. its a game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    TFO-OptimusPrime wrote: »
    He maybe down for it but in the end it isn't up to CaptLogan, its up to CBS and they've already expressed that there won't be a T5 Connie. I honestly feel that the Excelsior will be the last of the older ships to get a refit to T5 (or T6 when it comes). Seeing what CaptLogan did with the Venture makes me feel that thats the direction the coming ship models with be heading. I've got nothing against the older ships, like I said the Excelsior is on of my top fav ships, but even I was surprised that they made a T5 version of the ship when it woulda made more sense to keep it just at T3, to avoid those horrid quad-nacelle beasts lol. It woulda been more accurate to the timeline if they had kept it at T3. Ya have the Miranda at T1, Constitution at T2, Excelsior at T3, Galaxy at T4, and Sov at T5. Now when they add the Ambassador class, I'd think it would make more sense for them to remove the T4 Galaxy and slide the Ambassador in that slot to show the evolution of the Enterprise, even more so if you have the TOS T1 connie.

    Oh a T6 connie would be even better
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DecadeComplete wrote:
    the tiers are messed up. people dont get to use their favorite ships because they always have to replace it. I don't give a cardassian what makes sense in a canon spec or not. its a game.

    I think you are right the tiers are messed up. I think if you want to fly a viable Constitution class ship at end game you should be given the ability to craft a retrofit kit and apply it to one of you ships kind of like putting ground a kit on you Captain.

    Come On Development Team I want an End Game Constitution Class Ship to Fly
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    DecadeComplete wrote:
    the tiers are messed up. people dont get to use their favorite ships because they always have to replace it. I don't give a cardassian what makes sense in a canon spec or not. its a game.

    The tiers are even *more* messed up now due to the new "+1" (see: RI variant and Venture refit) ships being released via C-Store, with no *viable* plans to get them within the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    This game takes place 20 or so years after the last TNG movie their needs to be more new ship classes in this game rather than more old refits. I love all the refits but this game needs to move forward not backward.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Ratter116 wrote: »
    This game takes place 20 or so years after the last TNG movie their needs to be more new ship classes in this game rather than more old refits. I love all the refits but this game needs to move forward not backward.

    You see. you don't even need to buy the thing we're talking about. you can just ignore it as other players enjoy it. this happens to be a MMORPG and anything related to Canon or Immersion were shot out the window on February 2nd 2010.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Trust me I'd love to have an the upgrade idea and I don't see the reason why that isn't the way this game should've been in the first place but with what we have I'd rather they focused on new designs rather than spend months and months redoing the entire system. Plus I only pointed out canon to say their would be a lot of new designs by now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    You have to remember that Starships are not limited by the space frame itself, other than it's durability when shield failure has occurred. Starships are modular by design, to allow upgrades throughout its lifetime. It's no great problem for Starfleet Engineering to upgrade a Starships EPS system, Warpcore, Computer and Defense systems as these are completely modular. Also as stated in the ship technical manuals the vessels had a service life of 100 years (StarTrek the Next Generation Technical Manual). Ergo, I believe retrofit vessels are a viable route for Starfleet. Especially after the Dominion war when Starfleet suffered from massive space frame shortages. They trawled all the mothball yards for ships to refit and upgrade hence the resurrection of many defunct ship classes. This practice is used by today's navies maintaining mothball ships at a 6 month return to service readiness in event of a war.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Bulldog237 wrote: »
    this is the 3rd threed asking for a end game Connie and I want one too

    If it were about a t5 connie it wouldnt be the 3rd more the 300st.
    However; as much as I'd want to see the t5 connie (along with a lot of other ships at t5 or somehow usefull at higher tiers) the answer has been officially given and it is "No".
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Idea for getting "T5 Connies": What if you could get "Holographic Disguise Consoles" for the various lower tier ships? You wouldn't permanently be a constitution class hip, but you could appear as a Connie/NX-01/Oberth/etc. for like 15 minutes at a time, with a 15-30 min cooldown.

    Maybe not the perfect solution, but it might be a happy compromise. Maybe give the console like a bonus to stealth or something so it's not a purely cosmetic item.

    In terms of ships I'd like to see.
    The Niagra & Freedom class I always throught looked nice (Galaxy-styled ships with 3 & 1 nacelle respectively)

    Also the Curry, as a T3 level Carrier, which can then be followed up by higher level fed carriers launching Peregrines would be nice.

    And for a "fun" small craft, how about an authentic replica Captain Proton Rocket ship? :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    FirstAngelus wrote: »
    If it were about a t5 connie it wouldnt be the 3rd more the 300st.
    However; as much as I'd want to see the t5 connie (along with a lot of other ships at t5 or somehow usefull at higher tiers) the answer has been officially given and it is "No".


    I want an End game constitution class ship. (Squeak) (Squeak)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I would buy all the ships that have been mentioned plus this one :D, sovereign class final phase refit.

    http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/final-e-small.jpg :D Isn't she a beauty.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    my nx replica was still better to use in game than the t2 connie.... besides why would anyone want to fly some that is tactically unsound? the neck is sooo thin that a well placed torp shot would be the end of the stardrive and no more main power hello backups. watch the evolution of the enterprize from the tng movie collection it specifically points out that structural weakness. not to mention that its under powered for its class and size and under manned. the refit t2 connie has a crew of 400 in tos and in the motion picture collection it had a crew of 800. so lets recap. the connie design while it worked well in the 23rd century agains the d7s and the k'tingas it was only barely an even match. the excelsior class was eventually brought to full production to replace the connies in the trek mythos. the connie simply put is an under powered, under manned, out gunned, out manuevered, and out dated design. time to go with something newer. yes the connie is a classic so put it in a museum and let it die with dignity instead of dying in shame in a space fight.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If you don't wont to fly it then fine but let those who want to fly her fly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Interesting that this turned into a T5 Connie thread. It's not happening and thank God. Disregarding all canon is the stupidest argument EVER for this (and it's intellectually lazy) but somehow it keeps being made :rolleyes:. You're lucky it's in the game at all in this timeline. I suppose it doesn't matter though since it's not happening, ever, so feel free to argue about nothing in perpetuity :D

    The ship tier chart is a mess. The T5 D'Kyr shouldn't exist, but thank heavens they had the good sense to leave the NX and Oberth at T1. Anyway, I tend to agree we need more forward-looking ship designs, however it would really be nice to fill in some canon holes (I know some of these are in as "Variants" but the original would be nice for completeness):
    • Norway
    • Ambassador
    • Steamrunner
    • New Orleans
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I heard an interesting idea, what about a holoemmitter console that allowed you to changed the look of your current ship to a ship of that same class, so you could change you cruiser's look for another cruiser look but not to an escort or sci ship and to keep the PVP people happy, have the console be inactive in pvp maps?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Well, in all fairness the D'Kyr could still potentially be in service, because there's not really any canon info out there about how much Vulcan ship design has or has not advanced since Enterprise. The only example of TNG-era Vulcan ship design I can recall off the top of my head was from Unification (part 2). We very briefly saw three small Vulcan ships before they were blown up by a D'deridex Romulan Warbird. I'm sure there may be other canon examples of Vulcan ship design, but that's the only one I can recall from Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager.
    Also, considering the average Vulcan lifespan of about 200 years, that they are far slower to implement change than humans, and finally that Vulcan Ship design ≠ Starfleet Ship design, it is conceivable that they may still be using that ship design in the 25th century where STO takes place.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Necrion wrote:
    Well, in all fairness the D'Kyr could still potentially be in service, because there's not really any canon info out there about how much Vulcan ship design has or has not advanced since Enterprise. The only example of TNG-era Vulcan ship design I can recall off the top of my head was from Unification (part 2). We very briefly saw three small Vulcan ships before they were blown up by a D'deridex Romulan Warbird. I'm sure there may be other canon examples of Vulcan ship design, but that's the only one I can recall from Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager.
    Also, considering the average Vulcan lifespan of about 200 years, that they are far slower to implement change than humans, and finally that Vulcan Ship design ≠ Starfleet Ship design, it is conceivable that they may still be using that ship design in the 25th century where STO takes place.

    Even if Vulcan ship technology has advanced since the 22nd Century, I would not be surprised if they were using the same spaceframe. It would only be logical to design the ship with a degree of modularity so that, as new technologies are developed, you can simply upgrade existing vessels and build those technologies into new vessels without designing a whole new spaceframe.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Had some ides for C-Store ships:

    Ambassador
    Ambassador orginal design
    Akira T5 Cruiser variant
    Akira T5 Torpedo Boat
    New Orleans Battlecruiser
    Nebula Variant Phoenix
    Nebula Variant Malbourne
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Here's the ships that I'd be willing to buy right now...

    Ships from the new movie:
    USS Kelvin
    USS Enterprise
    et al.

    Ambassador Class

    Vulcan T'Pau Class

    Now, go make yourselves some money!

    BTW... I really appreciated the Venture Class - it's like flying around in a new pair of sneakers!
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