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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    No matter what you do, you cannot please 100% of the polulace 100% of the time. A majority should be sufficient.

    I agree this operation must go on no matter who is unhappy with it; we cant please all :(

    I hope to become active in this plan and it would be fun to see how well it turns out.

    If there is anything I can do to help; let me know.

    Thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    You know what I was thinking...instead of having just 1 large sitdown, have a series of sit-downs....
    Roosevelt used to have them back in the days before WWII; called them fireside chats or something like that. He relayed information, told people what was going on, and what needed to be done.

    What I am thinking of is the people responsible for the creation of this ought to make a channel, have anybody interested subscribe to it, and have regular updates of meetings, sit-downs at different times to accomodate as many as possible, and go over what needs to be gone over.

    Then everything that is decided in sit-downs can be posted on this or another thread so people can find what they need more readily....

    That's just my 2 cents....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    You know what I was thinking...instead of having just 1 large sitdown, have a series of sit-downs....
    Roosevelt used to have them back in the days before WWII; called them fireside chats or something like that. He relayed information, told people what was going on, and what needed to be done.

    What I am thinking of is the people responsible for the creation of this ought to make a channel, have anybody interested subscribe to it, and have regular updates of meetings, sit-downs at different times to accomodate as many as possible, and go over what needs to be gone over.

    Then everything that is decided in sit-downs can be posted on this or another thread so people can find what they need more readily....

    That's just my 2 cents....

    thats the general idea, only i called the sit downs monthly meetings, the channel idea has been brought up, i have yet to decide on a name for the alliance or the channel, forum threads are a good idea so long as the fleet leaders check up on them after meetings are held.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    thats the general idea, only i called the sit downs monthly meetings, the channel idea has been brought up, i have yet to decide on a name for the alliance or the channel, forum threads are a good idea so long as the fleet leaders check up on them after meetings are held.

    That does not seem to be the case here. I would say, make a post here naming the channel, have people subscribe to it, and keep people informed thus. It seems to me as well if people are given some sort of longterm goal handed in small steps, they would be more agreeable to join in to what you are proposing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    That does not seem to be the case here. I would say, make a post here naming the channel, have people subscribe to it, and keep people informed thus. It seems to me as well if people are given some sort of longterm goal handed in small steps, they would be more agreeable to join in to what you are proposing.

    thank you, i will make the channel in the morning, and inform you of the name via forums, klingon empire channel, organized pvp, klingon STF and accolades channels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    the official channel of the Alliance is the "KDF Alliance", not very creative but it works. join today and give me input and advice as well as to hear news, ideas and whatever the Samuel hill sinky you want!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    As leader of the Hammerfist Fleet and House of Hammerfist, I am expressing my interest in this idea.

    However, I will run it by my officer staff and see what they think. If so, I will try to appoint an available ambassador to speak on our behalf at the meeting.

    Our clan is very federation heavy, but we do have remaining KDF players and I feel that this would be a good move for our team on that faction. Strength in numbers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Remember the meeting is on may 31st at 8pm central standard time, spread the word and bring more troops to the cause, by the hand of kayless, the federation will fall before our might!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Remember the meeting is on may 31st at 8pm central standard time, spread the word and bring more troops to the cause, by the hand of kayless, the federation will fall before our might!

    lol...I'll pass the word along but I think I might be having to work that time...grrr...I'll set up a cardboard version of me at work perhaps...lol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Hey I missed it but how did it go??? The only time im ever really online a lot is on saturday. :)

    Perhaps we could meet then as well???
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have no idea...I have not heard anything of how this went. Well? what happened? did someone make progress?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Sorry i am late getting the news to yall, the attentance was unexpectedly low, but there are 4 member guilds and alliance is official existing, any guilds who want to join just ask, we will have monthly meetings, last day of every month for planning.

    This saturday our starter event is Breaking the planet fleet action at around the same time, i will have to log on and double check the exact time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The KDFDC would like to join. I want to help AMAP! I hope this will go well - nobody hardly ever plays on the klink side now :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    The KDFDC would like to join. I want to help AMAP! I hope this will go well - nobody hardly ever plays on the klink side now :(

    give me an in game Email with your fleets ambasador so i can get him up to speed and make everything official, until we get more than ten fleets joining will be rather informal and basically just letting me know that your fleet is "in" so i can give you details and everything.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    We had a good time on Breaking the Planet last night. It goes pretty well when you have an organized group.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I don't know (nor think it will) if it will break the "double thread" rule. But maybe you should open a specific thread where you expose some type of "charter" or general purpose of your initiative here. Also, in the OP, list the fleet that are part of your organization as well as incoming event. Just keep it updated, current and purge out old news in the OP.

    If not, use the OP of this thread...

    Just thought it would make is more visible and a candidate for being stickied if it helps the Klingon community.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    red_shirt_ wrote: »
    I don't know (nor think it will) if it will break the "double thread" rule. But maybe you should open a specific thread where you expose some type of "charter" or general purpose of your initiative here. Also, in the OP, list the fleet that are part of your organization as well as incoming event. Just keep it updated, current and purge out old news in the OP.

    If not, use the OP of this thread...

    Just thought it would make is more visible and a candidate for being stickied if it helps the Klingon community.

    Good idea, ill get it done tonight.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have composed a cease fire agreement between the Federation Klingons and the Romulans this agreement also contains the basis of a military force composed of all three powers, I am inviting this guild an indeed all the leaders of the great houses to take part in these negotiations. I truly believe that we all have the same enemy, the same threat of the Borg and the Undine. the forum thread can be found at this link http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=216095&page=16 please keep in mind this si draft of a cease fire agreement and it can be changed and any suggestions that are made will be given heavy weight and be added. thank you for your time and your consideration
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I have composed a cease fire agreement between the Federation Klingons and the Romulans this agreement also contains the basis of a military force composed of all three powers, I am inviting this guild an indeed all the leaders of the great houses to take part in these negotiations. I truly believe that we all have the same enemy, the same threat of the Borg and the Undine. the forum thread can be found at this link http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=216095&page=16 please keep in mind this si draft of a cease fire agreement and it can be changed and any suggestions that are made will be given heavy weight and be added. thank you for your time and your consideration

    I will bring this up at the meeting, but I will say this, the odds of us signing are not very pretty. This Peace treaty you want will ruin whats left of the KDF faction by sliding it away from PvP. Furthermore it has no bearing on cryptics development of the storyline. Right now the PvP is the only thing that is keeping the KDF above water, and it is sinking fast.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Hi. This is an interesting idea and would be up for bringing Klink fleet in as our player base is mostly fed since updates.

    Just a quick question are the meetings and event time more geared towards USA timings? as I am in UK and this could get quite difficult and I would love to have other Klinks to do missions and STFs with.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    jawz786 wrote: »
    Hi. This is an interesting idea and would be up for bringing Klink fleet in as our player base is mostly fed since updates.

    Just a quick question are the meetings and event time more geared towards USA timings? as I am in UK and this could get quite difficult and I would love to have other Klinks to do missions and STFs with.

    Yes times are geared towards US times, this is due to the fact that US time zones dominate our membership, however additional scheduling is more than arrangeable. If your guild should wish to send an ambassador Have him contact me so we can make the necessary arrangements. Times are set by votes and feasibility. if we have a guild that can add members to an activity we can move the time up or down a couple of hours if needs be. While i cannot say the time will be "ideal" it would be better than it would be otherwise.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Hi, I will discuss it with other members and get back to you. I think its a great idea and I am one of the Fleet Admirals (and one of the few regular Klinks in fleet) so I would likely be the ambassador.

    Will PM you asap.

    Thanks:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I will bring this up at the meeting, but I will say this, the odds of us signing are not very pretty. This Peace treaty you want will ruin whats left of the KDF faction by sliding it away from PvP. Furthermore it has no bearing on cryptics development of the storyline. Right now the PvP is the only thing that is keeping the KDF above water, and it is sinking fast.

    A new agreement has been proposed a cease fire agreement we are meeting this Saturday at 8:00 pm Eastern Standard Time to discuss this cease fire it is just a discussion and we will certainly consider with heavy weight any terms the Klingon propose we may not grant all of them but we will try to meet you halfway. All you have to do is pm me the handle of the Representative you choose to send if you are going t send one and I will invite them into the private instance.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    With the overall population of the KDF side getting lower I don't see how this iteration of the idea (it's been tried before under the KDF Alliance agenda, etc) will work since most KDF fleets have tiny amounts of active members.

    If anything the intent here should be to build what one could equate to a lobbying committee for more and more frequent KDF content (ships/costumes/missions/etc) from Cryptic proper since I believe that we can come to somewhat of a consensus that these things are lacking a bit, but we also have to see which of the aforementioned issues get addressed in the Season 4 push as well.

    Not to hijack much more but I think that we should further set up a sort of KDF Foundry team for those that would rather have more PVE content, I've made a few basic foundry missions for KDF and have a decent sense of what is and is not possible within the constraints of the foundry, etc, I just don't have the time anymore to sit down for 4-5 hours and generate content.

    How this would work is basically if someone has a cool idea for a KDF mission but dosent have the time to figure out the foundry proper, just write a draft of the mission plot, story, and notable character descriptions, etc and send it to a group for a techniclal review to see what would need to be tweaked to fit within the confines of the foundry and if the mission script is good enough, then set out to take the time to build the mission.

    Anyways whenever the next meeting is send Viaxa@Sorenzy a mail about it and I will do my best to be there and bring a few others as well, hopefully we can agree to and scheme up a way to pressure Cryptic into fixing the train wreck that is the KDF.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Sorenzy wrote: »
    With the overall population of the KDF side getting lower I don't see how this iteration of the idea (it's been tried before under the KDF Alliance agenda, etc) will work since most KDF fleets have tiny amounts of active members.

    If anything the intent here should be to build what one could equate to a lobbying committee for more and more frequent KDF content (ships/costumes/missions/etc) from Cryptic proper since I believe that we can come to somewhat of a consensus that these things are lacking a bit, but we also have to see which of the aforementioned issues get addressed in the Season 4 push as well.

    Not to hijack much more but I think that we should further set up a sort of KDF Foundry team for those that would rather have more PVE content, I've made a few basic foundry missions for KDF and have a decent sense of what is and is not possible within the constraints of the foundry, etc, I just don't have the time anymore to sit down for 4-5 hours and generate content.

    How this would work is basically if someone has a cool idea for a KDF mission but dosent have the time to figure out the foundry proper, just write a draft of the mission plot, story, and notable character descriptions, etc and send it to a group for a techniclal review to see what would need to be tweaked to fit within the confines of the foundry and if the mission script is good enough, then set out to take the time to build the mission.

    Anyways whenever the next meeting is send Viaxa@Sorenzy a mail about it and I will do my best to be there and bring a few others as well, hopefully we can agree to and scheme up a way to pressure Cryptic into fixing the train wreck that is the KDF.

    Good, i look forward to meeting with you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Isn't there already the KDF Experience Project? (I think thats its name) The one that is categorizing and listing all the KDF Foundry missions so that KDF Players can have a better PVE Experience?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I'm proposing a system for people familiar with the foundry to help create some great mission and episode ideas based off of the scripts of the more talented writers among the community that don't have the time to figure out the intricacies of the foundry itself.

    The longest part of making foundry missions for me is trying to scheme out a plot and then tie it together within the bounds of what the foundry can do, I think this is the common time consuming component for those that have a decent grasp at the foundry.

    So here is an example of how I envision this working.

    KDF player has a well thought out idea for a KDF mission or mission arc, writes up a concise, engaging plot with descriptions of characters and environments, plot hooks, etc. And submits this idea to a 'Foundry Factory' forum. Here the submission gets reviewed by a few people familiar with the foundry and caveats for foundry functionality are presented to the author, etc and then if there is enough interest in the story the mission gets built in the foundry, tested for a bit and then published out into the world and added to the listing.

    that's the basic jist of it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    July 9th is the next KDF A mission. Give 12guage a shout to get in on the fun.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Aoav160 wrote: »
    July 9th is the next KDF A mission. Give 12guage a shout to get in on the fun.

    This mission looks to me to be a good one yes?...lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Ok, Since I'm drafting the Alliance charter, I would like a complete list of the Fleets/Guilds/Houses/Orginizations that are joining, as well as the names of the signers.

    For example, my House, the House of Citak, is joining, so at the end of the Charter you'll get to see:

    K'Gonok, son of Citak, of the House of Citak.

    Say we had a Gorn Hegemony Fleet (or what have you), they might sign;

    Skaaksis, representative of the Gorn Hegemony

    So get those signatures in! if you don't want to post them in this thread (lets keep it alive enough not to be Necro!) just PM me.
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