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I know it was a while ago, but what do people think now about compensation for people who got their PreOrder stuff on the C-Store like the Galaxy X people did.
The Galaxy-X compensaton gave them about $50, PLUS the free $25 ship, PLUS the $30 worth of Points PLUS all the other stuff that stayed exclusive.
Should PreOrder's get compensation?
I know I'll get a lot of hate for this, but I can still dream. I kinda just wanna see what people's thoughts are :-)
The Galaxy-X compensaton gave them about $50, PLUS the free $25 ship, PLUS the $30 worth of Points PLUS all the other stuff that stayed exclusive.
Should PreOrder's get compensation?
I know I'll get a lot of hate for this, but I can still dream. I kinda just wanna see what people's thoughts are :-)
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Nope. Pre orders (including myself) got access to gear you couldn't get from the regular game or the c-store for a limited time. They never ever said you will NEVER see them in game.
If you went and bought multiple copies for the pre-orders that's your own fault. Personally I think cryptic was really generous in giving out what they did for those that went and bought multiple STO copies JUST for the galaxy-x.
I personally wouldn't of. (But i'm not nice so hehe)
1) Same situation (bought something, never promised as exclusive forever), only difference being one got compensated, one didn't.
2) I, personally, didn't but why is that less worthy than the Gal-X people
3) Bunch of em didn't do that, so how is that fair?
Now the Vendor Pre-Order perks were never promised to be 'EXCLUSIVE' as the pre-order FAQ warned that they would be offered as Micro-transactions in the future, as stated in the Pre-Order FAQ back in Feb of last year... http://www.startrekonline.com/preorder-faq
As many of the people who groaned for the Pre-Orders on the C-Store liked to use for justification
"Exclusive" doesn't mean forever, just that limited time.
kinds of issues.
I'd like them to state "if you think you have a claim for compensation due to (insert circumstance or issue here)
you have by "X" amount of days to submit a claim. Anything after the allotted amount of days will be null and void.
And at that point of making a statement give a list of items and their cutoff date for submitting claims.
This Galaxy X issue has been going on for how long?
The game's been out a year, and still you read posts from people about PRE-ORDER issues...
PRE-ORDER???.. :rolleyes:.c'mon man, we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past pre-order days. Right?
My reply was "sorry, can't help you".
Now, it seems to me that it would be very easy for them to verify that I completed the STF, acquired
the engine, deleted it, and no longer have it.
I didn't whine back to them, I accepted the fact that I screwed up and they said they couldn't help me.
In this case, I can't be like KIRK and not believe in the no-win scenario, because sometimes with Cryptic you
don't have a choice in the matter.
I'd be really in favor of that.
Actually the Galaxy-X and Pre-Order debacles were only a month or two apart I believe. Before Stahl took over.
I just think its unfair that part of their rewards got to stay exclusive, the still got there ship, and got $50 free. Thus they each got $105 worth of C-Store absolutely free.
Pre-Orderers got jack.
I especially feel for the CO LTSers, bought it just for the uniform, they couldn't use it cuz it was broken till it showed up on the Store for $3 after they spent $299 to get it. They, I think, should get something even if the rest of us don't.
I don't see the connection. You just run it again. Problem solved.
We can't just get our money back.
I do think that something as OLD as a pre-order issue should have been settled A LONG
time ago, in a galaxy far far...hold on...wrong universe.
OK, but your situation is easier to resolve.
I agree it should have been handled long ago but it wasn't.
Overall, A very simple compensation program would be good for Cryptic.
Right now there are a group of gamers who won't buy from the C-Store, won't advertise the game to others, and won't pay more for content when it comes out. Thus Cryptic makes nothing from them.
Giving them Compensation can't hurt Cryptic.
Right now, they aren't be making money off of that group anyway (and in fact not getting revenue they could be getting)
Once they give a compensation (which is in fictional money that costs them nothing)
either
A) The people will spend their points and nothing more
or
And even the A group will still provide more revenue by being happy with the game and more responsive to spending money on it in the future and advertising it.
The only drawback is some of that population won't spend more or advertise (but they wouldn't be making money off of them anyway, so they remain in equilibirum)
It can only help the game not hurt it.
Don't feel sorry for me, I am a CO lifer and though the mirror unifrom was a nice touch I can assure you that I did not put out 300 dollars just to get alittle trinket in any game.
I paid for a lifetime subscription to CO and my uniform was a bonus.
I don't need anyting extra I have received what I paid for with the Lifetime sub.
I'd only be guessing when I say that it might not be worth the effort for them to undertake the kind of program
you're suggesting.
If it's for 5, 10, 20, 50...not worth it. HELL, it might not be worth it for 100.
More than 1000 affected people, YES, by all means, give them people some FREE schwag-store
stuff.
But that's just me, a faithful STO LIFER talking.
Didn't ST-TOS get a third season due to a write-in campaign?
Perhaps enough of those people wanting compensation contact DStahl via his twitter account and
perhaps, just perhaps there might be some light shed on their situation. Be that a positive or negative outcome for them, but since you feel it's a situation that STILL hasn't been rectified run with that ball until you score a touchdown.
I'm talking about the people that did. It just sucks that it was broken until it was on the C-Store.
1) So its only worth if it'll make em around $10000 or more immediately? Oh, it only make em a couple thousand, not worth it? If it's 100 people, and only 1/4 of them recommend and get 1 person to join the game, thats already and extra $375 a month. To say that none of that is worth it is short sighted.
2) Many of them have just given up and don't feel like mentioning it due to how everybody else attacks them.
Just go back to last spring forums, its a lot of people.
Now whats the point on bringing up such an old & dead topic????
What is old changes based on perspective.
I wanted to hear what some peoples opinions were and now that someone else is in charge, different results are possible. If it were dead, this thread wouldn't exist.
Plus, I never go any response from the important people.
Hey, just because something follows procedure or follows the law makes it right, only legal.
And, its best for the game if they do provide compensation and define EXCLUSIVE for further clarification.
And I must ask you something, is it right to give (a ridiculous amount) of compensation to one group because a single one of their exclusives went to the C-Store, but none for the other group when all of their exclusives have gone to the C-Store????
Like I said before...PREORDER issue? It's an old issue, and IF Cryptic hasn't
taken care of it by now, chances are the NEW regime thinks it's old too, and
it will stay dead and buried, like all the old accounts of people that have left STO
long ago.
"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one"
Then why did you just declare in what circumstances it would be worth it or not?
Old is different from each person's perspective.
Perhaps they have never been asked considering most people stopped before they were in charge and now that the game is in a different place they may be thinking more long term.
I'm sorry but how does ignoring this help the needs of the many over the few???
In fact, it increases revenue, thus making the game better and increasing the player base.
I believe there is an old idiom it goes something like this "A fool and his money are soon parted."
I am not calling anyone a fool just quoting an idiom but if one wants to spend $300 dollars on an electronic trinket with no physical value one needs to evaluate one's interpretation of one's understanding of value.
And yes, I am one of those people that did buy 2 copies for the preorder bonuses do I care that people can now buy this stuff in the Cstore, and have been able too for months now, NO! I got what I paid for.
Even if you DID pay extra to get those items, you are still no worse off than anyone else who buys them, unless you paid MORE to get them than a C-Store user would.
You got the item early, for free. I could understand being disappointed by it being available to others, but I don't understand the idea of compensation for something you didn't have to pay for.
I have 4 or so preorders on my account and i couldn't care less about a "compensation".
I had fun with "my" items and i certainly don't loathe Players who stocked up on preorder items when they became available in the C-store.
And now please let this long dead horse rest, it smells horribly.
I said it's not up to me in the end if it's worth it BECAUSE in the end I'm not the person
that's going to make a decision on how this issue, a DEAD issue, is even handled, OR it
remains buried where it is now, DEAD in the ground. The ground that you're running it
into but continue to keep digging up.
NOW, is there something about this, the above string of words that make a sentence,
that you will fail to comprehend?
I DON'T WORK FOR CRYPTIC, OK. I DON'T MAKE THEIR BUSINESS DECISIONS.
I quoted the needs of the many because it sounds cool, and I knew it would yank your
chain. I was correct.
I'm talking about the people who for them it was a major contributing factor.
1) You'd be wrong because I use it every day
2) If no one care, why are you here getting upset?
Considering I paid more than just a few bucks for em, yes they were not "free".
What does that have to do with anything? So you asked him for it, I'll bet you go back far enough, you can find people asking for almost every pre-order thing to be non exclusive.
I just can't comprehend why some of you people are against this. It can only help the game, increase revenue, and get more players, so why is it so horrible???? I'd figure you'd want to do whatever will help the game...