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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Shuttlecraft should drop the USS prefix however, they are simply named "Shuttlecraft (name)" or "Runabout (name)"

    DS9 begs to differ...

    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Yangtzee_Kiang
    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Rio_Grande
    http://www.durfee.net/startrek/c_Danube.html
    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Orinoco
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I can live with USS on Vulcan ships (but would be better off VS), but they really need to remove USS on Shuttles!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Remember the USS T'Pau from that episode in which they go to the starship graveyard in TNG?
    Anyway, if were talking about prefixes.

    NCC= Naval Commision Contract: The number the ship was assigned before being built and before it got its name, this explains the Prometheus's odd registry, even though it was NX, it is still a number in the NCC system, and the only way they can get up that high in the 90,000's is if they included shuttles, freighters, and civillian ships, and possibly captured ships, but then it wouldn't be NCC if it were a captured ship, but it would have to assigned a number any way and was given the next free number if it were pressed into active duty. Also take the Federation Curry and Raging Queen Class carriers from DS9, I bet they got new numbers when they were retrofitted from Excelsiors to carriers.

    NX= Naval Prototype: The "X" is often used for prototype, and it is tied in with the NCC system.

    NAR= Navy Astrological Researcher?: I don't know for sure what the NAR stands for but this is my guess since the ships were built by starfleet and used by civillians as science ships.

    USS= UFP Star Ship

    S.S. = Star Ship

    IKS= Imperial Klingon Ship

    IRW= Imperial Romulan Warbird

    And now my solution for the Dykar

    VSV= Vulcan Science Vessel, but in vulcan lettering, with no NCC, NAR, or whatever with just a number

    However if the ship was acquired by starfleet from the Vulcan Navy, then it would get the USS and NCC treatment because it would be operating under the UFP Flag and therefore a Federation wessel
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    When a nation buys a ship from the US, that other nation doesn't keep a USS designation just because a ship used to be somewhere else or was made by another country.

    These USS designations in Star Trek would only apply to Starfleet vessels--regardless of manufacturer or origin.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    These USS designations in Star Trek would only apply to Starfleet vessels--regardless of manufacturer or origin.

    If it was fairly simple for Cryptic to add the NX prefix to the C-Store, then I don't see why Cryptic couldn't do something similar here, to allow players who want to role play a character who isn't part of Starfleet, for a price.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    zachray263 wrote: »
    Remember the USS T'Pau from that episode in which they go to the starship graveyard in TNG?
    Anyway, if were talking about prefixes.

    NCC= Naval Commision Contract: The number the ship was assigned before being built and before it got its name, this explains the Prometheus's odd registry, even though it was NX, it is still a number in the NCC system, and the only way they can get up that high in the 90,000's is if they included shuttles, freighters, and civillian ships, and possibly captured ships, but then it wouldn't be NCC if it were a captured ship, but it would have to assigned a number any way and was given the next free number if it were pressed into active duty. Also take the Federation Curry and Raging Queen Class carriers from DS9, I bet they got new numbers when they were retrofitted from Excelsiors to carriers.

    NX= Naval Prototype: The "X" is often used for prototype, and it is tied in with the NCC system.

    NAR= Navy Astrological Researcher?: I don't know for sure what the NAR stands for but this is my guess since the ships were built by starfleet and used by civillians as science ships.

    USS= UFP Star Ship

    S.S. = Star Ship

    IKS= Imperial Klingon Ship

    IRW= Imperial Romulan Warbird

    And now my solution for the Dykar

    VSV= Vulcan Science Vessel, but in vulcan lettering, with no NCC, NAR, or whatever with just a number

    However if the ship was acquired by starfleet from the Vulcan Navy, then it would get the USS and NCC treatment because it would be operating under the UFP Flag and therefore a Federation wessel

    By that logic wouldn't you just replace the NCC with something Vulcan specific? So you'd have something like the "USS Pride of Andoria, VCC 12345".
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Walshicus wrote:
    By that logic wouldn't you just replace the NCC with something Vulcan specific? So you'd have something like the "USS Pride of Andoria, VCC 12345".

    Well, It would be in Vulcan lettering
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Walshicus wrote:
    By that logic wouldn't you just replace the NCC with something Vulcan specific? So you'd have something like the "USS Pride of Andoria, VCC 12345".

    http://www.stowiki.org/V.S._T%27Pau
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The problem with the V.S. is that you are a Fed and it is the Feds that are sending you on missions deemed importent by the UFP. Vulcan ships run missions for Vulcan. Vulcan ships when assigned to Starfleet run missions for the UFP and in many cases are crewed and comanded by non-vulcans.

    p.s. I am no Vulcan hater.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Alecto wrote: »
    If it was fairly simple for Cryptic to add the NX prefix to the C-Store, then I don't see why Cryptic couldn't do something similar here, to allow players who want to role play a character who isn't part of Starfleet, for a price.

    NX is different from USS.

    I could see a NV prefix to signify that the ship was recomissioned as a Federation ship.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The problem with the V.S. is that you are a Fed and it is the Feds that are sending you on missions deemed importent by the UFP. Vulcan ships run missions for Vulcan. Vulcan ships when assigned to Starfleet run missions for the UFP and in many cases are crewed and comanded by non-vulcans.

    p.s. I am no Vulcan hater.

    I think people just want it from an rp standpoint. I've met a lot of toons that are either defected from Starfleet, mercenaries, civilian transporters, from the Terran Empire, etc.

    But hey, if we're going the distance, why not more than just V.S? What about A.S. for Andorian ships or T.S. for Tellarite ships? That'd be interesting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The prefix doesn't matter to me as much as having a Vulcan bridge for my Vulcan ship. :p
  • themightythor00themightythor00 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    This, alien ships should get their native prefix



    Actually you are 100% WRONG.

    Even Kirk answered a hail as:: "This is the United States Ship Enterprise..." at times. :rolleyes: And I guess you forgot that Start Trek is American.

    And Your 100% wrong. He constantly stated the United Star Ship Enterprise. you need to go watch the show again.
    I think at least once he answered as the United Space Ship Enterprise
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    Necromancer! Be gone with ye!
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    We come in peace, SHOOT TO KILL!
  • gurluasgurluas Member Posts: 464 Arc User
    Also incase anyone was wondering, the Vulcan ship has V.S.S now.
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