Filet - Heavens Tear Arc User

If you're using all 4 weapons go demon. Fists are very very powerful endgame and the extra stun/attack speed that demon gives is more useful when PvPing with fists. Try to aim for 7k+ hp unbuffed at 9x, depending on the amount of money and your build you could be anywhere from 7-9k hp unbuffed, higher if you have insane…

I'm pretty sure that cube atk speed buff does not stack with demon spark.

Shh don't tell them about purge spear XD. I just got it a couple days ago, it's really useful. Nobody expects a bm to purge them, and all the squishy classes without buffs are... well... squishy :P. I wonder how much time it takes before it becomes a standard wep and other classes know what to expect though...

3 str 2 dex. str gives out more damage than dex (even accounting for crit damage). If you can get good refines, the extra vit isn't nearly as helpful. Personally even if you only use axes for stunning, I'd keep a set of good axes on, as the time it takes to use a drake bash could be time that you're using to attack with…

Probably not then. Only go for fists (PvP-wise) if you can get at least -.2 interval i'd say. Also Telarith your endgame gear is so expensive, there are probably only a handful of people on my entire server that could afford that as a bm. Holy Helm 30m Deicide 50m Lunar Cape 50m Scroll of Tome 150m 5 pieces of TT99…

Just wanted to say that i dont agree with your sig, a dumb rich player just has to press a couple keys and automatic win :P

lol... we have will which lasts 15 seconds, then we can either balance or anti-stun pot. Any decent cleric will just sleep you when you don't have an anti-sleep skill on. You must be fighting some really really **** clerics then.

Yeah but that applies to every skill chain, I'm just listing the only 2 fist skills that are worth using.

Check out Kniraven's Sword BM Guide for swords. For fists I think there's Drunken Chu's guide. Anyway fists are pretty basic, 3 str 2 dex, get as much - interval gear as you can, and only bother learning cyclone heel and shadowless kick (only get this to level 1).

I can afford -.4 interval. I'm telling you honestly that I'm not going to be attempting -.45 interval, as that one nirvana piece costs a scroll of tome + the entire TT99 set + more. Has the attack speed cap been raised above 5 atk/s yet?

Woo gg we have will of the bolshi, does the same thing. And until there are more high level sins you can't really judge how they're gonna fare in pvp endgame.

To get nirvana leggings is upwards of 300m. Adding that on to the already pricey list of items that fist bms need to get is pretty much unobtainable for over 95% of bms

lol rock we tw together, you haven't met any wiz that 1shot you? XD

Double damage vs. half armor, double damage is far more devastating. It's not like HF and GS are so rare to get, most bms have tried both out and the simple fact is that double damage lets you do more damage than halving their armour.

Idk I like Deicide over GX, I have both and in terms of killing single targets deicide is much much better

i was kidding -_- sword has base of 0.9 interval 0.05 from cape, 0.05 from scroll of tome, 2 TT99HA/LA 0.1, Wrists 0.1, Nirvana Pants, 0.05. End with .55 interval which is 1.82 atk/s If you're awesome and have 0.15 wrists, you could get 2 atk/s, demon sparked is 2.87 atk/s. Bit far from off from 5 atk/s there :P

5/per sec with axes is greater than 5/per sec with sword :)

In Group PvP they'd just run away. In TW save your sparks for HF. Also triple sparking in TW is pretty much equivalent to putting a giant target on yourself that says kill me.

-0.05 interval from cape -0.05 interval scroll of tome -0.1 wrists -0.1 Lunar claw -0.05 2 TT99 heavy -0.05 2 TT99 Light So your base interval is 0.3 which translates to 3.33 atk/s 75% of that (with demon spark) is .225, however interval rounds down to .2 That's 5 attacks per second. Also I really don't see what the big…

You only need base atk speed of 3.33 atk/s + demon spark to reach 5 atk/s, I know a couple people who have 5 atk/s without nirvana gear

Nonono he's rich remember? He's gonna pay a wiz to constantly follow him and buff him every 2 seconds

I never said that everybody in a top TW faction has ridiculous gear. I'm in a competitive TW faction and I know plenty of people with +4-5 gear. I'm talking about individual as opposed to faction. Yes you may be a part of the best faction on your server, but that doesn't mean that you yourself are the best player or even…

A BM can be good easily, it takes a ton of money to make a great bm. TBH if you want to make an awesome fist bm you'll need a ton of cash. But if you're content with not having 5 atk/s then it shouldn't be too bad cost wise

Really funny how an archer knows our class the best XD

If you go all TT99 HA you get a total of -0.05. If you go 2 HA 2 LA you get total of -0.1 If you go 3 TT99 HA Nirvana Leggings you get total of -0.1 If you go 3 TT99 HA Nirvana Leggings + 2 other pieces LA you get total of -0.15

Stun+Kite, just keep your distance and anti-stun. Archers definitely don't have an easy time with BMs unless you seriously outgear them

The more money you have, the less useful vit becomes. I'm 3 vit and I have 7.7k hp, I mean seriously when you can put primeval/stone of the savant into your gear and get 40 vit off one piece of armour there's very little reason to use your stat points on more vit.

In terms of overall PvE usefulness Axe is still more useful than Swords. FF? Axe. RB? Axe. Someone accidentally aggros a whole group of mobs? Axe. AoE Grinding? Axe. In a squad there are only 3 main roles, you either tank, DD, or you support. Swords aren't the best weapon for tanking, Swords aren't the best weapon for DD,…

Yeah but with only -.1 interval from wrists fists weren't a very effective pvp weapon. FF fists were extremely uncommon before anni packs. Either way I'm not complaining that fists have been given such a big upgrade, bms definitely need it.