End Game Fists? 100+

What does Berserk has to do with Cyclone? O_o
The endgame fists are these. http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/14874 Unless Nirvana has something better with -int. I haven't really look at them yet since I won't be 100 anytime soon.

Most 100+ BM I know has TT100 instead of lunar. I have a friend who had lunar first and now he's got TT100 instead. The increase damage taken is 10% from what I've read on the forum, which isn't that much when you think about it. I guess I forgot about the part that Berserk increases attack speed. I asked my friend who had the lunar fists and he said that the proc increases your attack speed more than Cyclone does.

According to him, if you have or getting other -int gears, then the TT100 would be better and if not then the lunar ones would be better. Though I'm a loyal -int fan.

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

I wonder what the Cube attack speed bonus is, and if it will stack with hell spark.

If not then hope at least it doesn't over ride it lol. In my experience, nothing stacks with demon spark other than -int.

Filet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that cube atk speed buff does not stack with demon spark.

Yeah, I didn't think it would be either, that would be too much of a good thing. The reduced defense doesn't sound like something I'd want seeing how fists tend to steal and hold aggro in most PvE situations, and having that proc during PvP wouldn't be so pleasant either.

Someone mentioned making a cash shop dex build barb. Imagine 99 wrists/chest and Nirvana pants with Love Up and Down and -int cape all loaded with Vit stones and crazy refines with a +10 claws. lol

Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lol... I know a couple of them. Lunar claws, split LA/HA and other -int gears and all that.

Barb WCs: "WTB Lunar Claws"
Me PMs: "-_- I hate you"

Hahaha... yeah, that's just... scary.

Yeah, the TT100 fists are better, I'm just trying to fool myself into thinking they aren't... TT100 sooo expensive... and for all purposes not really farmable. Guess they need the packs with the orange mats to come back to the cash shop.

volst wrote: »

You can get tt100 mats from best luck.

Heart of Nature for 150m coin? Nothanks.

Saw a heart of nature for 30mil buy but only had 20mil on me at the time.

Still kicking myself for not asking someone for a loan.

Pending the the 2nd recast of nirvana claws/fists can possibly have -.1 interval on them then the best possible fist/claw weapon is a 2nd recast nirvana weapon. If they cannot have that mod then the first recast is better because it is known for sure that there is a -.1 interval mod on those if you upgrade to any of the claws...the tt99 gold fist upgraded to tt claws has decides mods due to the fact there is no tt99 claws and tt100 goes straight to second recast.

If nirvana 2nd recast fists/claws can have -int as a possible mod they would be stronger than warsoul possibly, warsoul having no interval mods...since that -.1 adds at higher stacked amounts of interval adds about 25% more damage plus 25% more chi gain...whereas warsoul has only +50 attack levels which means you trade 25% chi for 25% more damage...tough call either way...and its just grade 16 vs grade 15 refine wise. But anyway thats up to whoever with that.

As for decides vs tt100, they both are grade 13, they both have -.1 interval...so it comes down to the remaining two mods as to whats better. Claws have a higher max damage, and fists have a higher average damage is the first difference, though because of the amount of attacks and the fact its not a huge gap to begin with this can pretty much be ignored. Decides sport a +16-17 vit mod, and tt100 has a +142 max physical attack. So basically take what i just said about claws vs fists and throw it out the window in this case...being that the +142 makes the fists have a bit more max damage to start with. Then your left with do you want 240+ hp or that bit of extra damage, which if what was said about the refine difference is true the max attack boost will be meaningless at high refines. The only remaining point of interest is the fact that tt100 has +4% crit...which is alot, but decide has built in 10% sharptooth aka soul infect ability. At high attack speeds that should proc ALOT...so pretty much anything your fighting will have 10% less hp if your using decides....bad **** if i do say so myself. Imo i prefer decide because having the extra hp...which with a dex based build you will need to make up for lack of vit, and the fact you have built in sharptooth on it.

Also the point about tt100 being easier to make into 2nd recast nirvana is entirely incorrect. tt100 straight to 2nd recast costs 250 rapture crystals, whereas lunar to 1st is 100 and then to 2nd is 150...100+150 = 250...and 250 = 250 as far as i know so its all the same.

As for the lunar fists I have no experience with the mod on those but i believe it is not nearly as good because of the facts....no speed boosts stack, so it will cancel out demon spark/cyclone/what have you...with lower hp of a fist bm ...barring no crazy refines... that damage increase will hurt alot more. And there is no guerentee it will be on at all times since attack speed is much less.

Anyway thats my take on the topic.

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary wrote: »

pretty much anything your fighting will have 10% less hp if your using decides

Not really but yeah, it will proc quite often, it's sweet expecially on unsuspecting WBs b:sin

With hindsight, I'm pretty sure i would have gotten HH100 instead of +11ing CV (when Pan Gus came out my Deicides were already +10 b:cry), for the fact that they plain outdamage CV (assuming your CVs come out 1 socket, +10 HH100 w/ 2 g11s will outdo +11 CV) and +4% is simply better in pvp than sharptooth.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8d1180f5732733c2 +11 CV with 1 G11
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5a44c4229d4a4e07 +10 HH100 with 2 G11

However in pve you will simply LOVE CV.

Xxwarxx - Lost City wrote: »

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