PWI Eclipse Expansion Preview, launching 12/16

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  • Lienna - Momaganon
    Lienna - Momaganon Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The speed skill from is nothing special, is shared holy path genie icon skill and acts like lvl 1-3 of it
  • nanu9954
    nanu9954 Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I hope that Perfect World 2 will be a brand new game with open beta, new players new map, etc... <3

    Perfect World 1 is way too old (Old stand still & atk in PvP, etc...) and is dying
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nanu9954 wrote: »
    I hope that Perfect World 2 will be a brand new game with open beta, new players new map, etc... <3

    Perfect World 1 is way too old (Old stand still & atk in PvP, etc...) and is dying

    Have you even read anything or are you simply badly trolling?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • bluestuffzzz
    bluestuffzzz Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Have you even read anything or are you simply badly trolling?

    I ran a search on his past posts. I think he may not have the ability to read or write very well, unfortunately.
    I host an Ecatomb mirror here: ecatomb.gdevtalk.net
    I've been actively playing since late 2008.
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  • XXAlluraXx - Archosaur
    XXAlluraXx - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sooo im guessing fc isnt coming back
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sooo im guessing fc isnt coming back

    Sparkie, our GM, has already said it will not be coming back.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Liveena - Heavens Tear
    Liveena - Heavens Tear Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sooo im guessing fc isnt coming back

    -facepalm-

    No, and this has been discussed many times in other threads.
    Heaven Tear

    Liveena 102/102/102 Demon Cleric
    Milfeena 103/102 Demon BM
    Silpheena 104/103/102 Sage R9S3 Seeker
    Cieleena 101/101/101 Sage Stormbringer
  • XXAlluraXx - Archosaur
    XXAlluraXx - Archosaur Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    wasnt really paying attention lol but tyvm b:victory b:chuckle
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The only thing i dont like is DQ=1 coin. b:cry And dont say its a good thing cause will stop botting and inflation. Botting isnt the major problem for inflation. Yes botting has a contribution to the inflation but its not the major thing that cause the gold to be so high.The major problem is cash shop players( not all of them) that buyed something with 10k for exemple and try to sell it with 10mil and stupid ppl that buyed that with 10mil. And these started before botting. If DQ will drop to 1 coin some ppl( including me) wont have other ways to make money, only jolly quests will remain. Yes i know i can farm TT but can you find me 3 players that will be there for me when i need to open or that i dont need pay them 100k to come to help open?. And I know i can multi client but can you buy me better pc or better internet so i dont dc or lagging or taking me so long till i log second char?But lets say muti clienting is not a problem and ppl are botting with 10 chars same time but those ppl are only a few of players in PW cause some ppl dont play this game for 6 years so they dont have 10 different acounts so they can bott with all of them and make insane amount of money. Many ppl have only 1-2 chars lvl 100+to bott with them .And many ppl have a job and other things to do in rl so they cant spam TT and other instances for money. Ppl like these were happy about the introduction of botting system cause these way they can make few money while they at work or doing other things. these ppl are just loggin in, doing their bh and dailies then set char on auto farming, go to their job or to do other things then come to see how much money they made from botting and sell DQ mats and other things they collected while botting and repair.Or they set toon on botting and then do dailies and bh.
    Making DQ 1 coin isnt a good thing for some ppl.The only use for dq mats now are to be farmed and npc them but droping all to 1 coin will end this too, they should remove it then cause DQ will be no use for ppl. DQ reward system is gone and never coming back and I dont thing that are ppl that doing Dragon Quests.
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  • Liveena - Heavens Tear
    Liveena - Heavens Tear Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The decicison to make DQ 1 coin comes from china, and in pwcn, I think their server is literally infested with bots or people who have no life.

    1 coin DQ will surely make an impact when they applied it to our server, some of my friend already saying will quit the game if this happen since the relies on dq item botting for income due to real life situation (unable to play for long period of time).

    Still they are some source of income like jolly quest, and since PWI never enforced 2 account per people, player can still abuse this to get major coin income.

    Btw, if the xp reward from lvl 80+ quest is increased, does the coin reward increased as well?
    Heaven Tear

    Liveena 102/102/102 Demon Cleric
    Milfeena 103/102 Demon BM
    Silpheena 104/103/102 Sage R9S3 Seeker
    Cieleena 101/101/101 Sage Stormbringer
  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The only thing i dont like is DQ=1 coin. b:cry And dont say its a good thing cause will stop botting and inflation. Botting isnt the major problem for inflation. Yes botting has a contribution to the inflation but its not the major thing that cause the gold to be so high.The major problem is cash shop players( not all of them) that buyed something with 10k for exemple and try to sell it with 10mil and stupid ppl that buyed that with 10mil. And these started before botting. If DQ will drop to 1 coin some ppl( including me) wont have other ways to make money, only jolly quests will remain. Yes i know i can farm TT but can you find me 3 players that will be there for me when i need to open or that i dont need pay them 100k to come to help open?. And I know i can multi client but can you buy me better pc or better internet so i dont dc or lagging or taking me so long till i log second char?But lets say muti clienting is not a problem and ppl are botting with 10 chars same time but those ppl are only a few of players in PW cause some ppl dont play this game for 6 years so they dont have 10 different acounts so they can bott with all of them and make insane amount of money. Many ppl have only 1-2 chars lvl 100+to bott with them .And many ppl have a job and other things to do in rl so they cant spam TT and other instances for money. Ppl like these were happy about the introduction of botting system cause these way they can make few money while they at work or doing other things. these ppl are just loggin in, doing their bh and dailies then set char on auto farming, go to their job or to do other things then come to see how much money they made from botting and sell DQ mats and other things they collected while botting and repair.Or they set toon on botting and then do dailies and bh.
    Making DQ 1 coin isnt a good thing for some ppl.The only use for dq mats now are to be farmed and npc them but droping all to 1 coin will end this too, they should remove it then cause DQ will be no use for ppl. DQ reward system is gone and never coming back and I dont thing that are ppl that doing Dragon Quests.

    Inflation doesnt work like that, m8b:chuckle
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The only thing i dont like is DQ=1 coin. b:cry And dont say its a good thing cause will stop botting and inflation. Botting isnt the major problem for inflation. Yes botting has a contribution to the inflation but its not the major thing that cause the gold to be so high.The major problem is cash shop players( not all of them) that buyed something with 10k for exemple and try to sell it with 10mil and stupid ppl that buyed that with 10mil. And these started before botting. If DQ will drop to 1 coin some ppl( including me) wont have other ways to make money, only jolly quests will remain. Yes i know i can farm TT but can you find me 3 players that will be there for me when i need to open or that i dont need pay them 100k to come to help open?. And I know i can multi client but can you buy me better pc or better internet so i dont dc or lagging or taking me so long till i log second char?But lets say muti clienting is not a problem and ppl are botting with 10 chars same time but those ppl are only a few of players in PW cause some ppl dont play this game for 6 years so they dont have 10 different acounts so they can bott with all of them and make insane amount of money. Many ppl have only 1-2 chars lvl 100+to bott with them .And many ppl have a job and other things to do in rl so they cant spam TT and other instances for money. Ppl like these were happy about the introduction of botting system cause these way they can make few money while they at work or doing other things. these ppl are just loggin in, doing their bh and dailies then set char on auto farming, go to their job or to do other things then come to see how much money they made from botting and sell DQ mats and other things they collected while botting and repair.Or they set toon on botting and then do dailies and bh.
    Making DQ 1 coin isnt a good thing for some ppl.The only use for dq mats now are to be farmed and npc them but droping all to 1 coin will end this too, they should remove it then cause DQ will be no use for ppl. DQ reward system is gone and never coming back and I dont thing that are ppl that doing Dragon Quests.

    In all honesty? Roll twinksto open those inis for yourself. This is not a trolling attempt. I'm serious.

    PWE doesn't give a damn about multiclienting.

    Still. I'd always love to remember ppl as to when the game was new. No Hypers, no BH, no nothing. Just quests and grinding. Sure Gold was at 100k, but there wasn't really something you could buy that improved your character.

    I will say that ppl like you wouldn't even bother playing this game if it was still like that. You needed months to even reach lvl 80, let alone lvl100. Farming stuff alone? Impossible, even with several accounts. Some ppl say that this was the real bloom of the game and that it had a major downfall during the years. But most casual players would like PWI way more the way it is now, that's pretty much why we eventually got those changes.

    Thus said, botting is till rather new to the game. How did you/your friends earn coins before?

    From the view of PWE as a business I'd say: Why should they care? If ppl only income is botting and they don't have time to play the game anyways then to which point are they important to PWE? They generte 0 income for the business. On the view of other players: "Why do we need them? They only generate an overflow of coins and thus harming the economy." From the view of those players: "Why should I play a game that I can only afk to begin with? If I don't have time playing the game then why should I bother playing at all?"

    Botting is bad in any way and unnecessary because we managed to get along without it. We have too many players that are just F2P botting to get their gears and everntually quit again cuz they never really played to begin with.

    Sure the gold prices will stay high due to other reasons but the prices will surely go down be quite a bit. All those f2p bot-only players won't infest the gold buying anymore which leaves more (cheaper) gold for us farmers (: Sure, I am F2P too, but I contribute a sh!tload of mats to the economy and not just senseless coins. And mats are very important.
    My Barb:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#146464

    My SB:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#141476
  • bloodedone87
    bloodedone87 Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    In all honesty? Roll twinksto open those inis for yourself. This is not a trolling attempt. I'm serious.

    PWE doesn't give a damn about multiclienting.

    Still. I'd always love to remember ppl as to when the game was new. No Hypers, no BH, no nothing. Just quests and grinding. Sure Gold was at 100k, but there wasn't really something you could buy that improved your character.

    I will say that ppl like you wouldn't even bother playing this game if it was still like that. You needed months to even reach lvl 80, let alone lvl100. Farming stuff alone? Impossible, even with several accounts. Some ppl say that this was the real bloom of the game and that it had a major downfall during the years. But most casual players would like PWI way more the way it is now, that's pretty much why we eventually got those changes.

    Thus said, botting is till rather new to the game. How did you/your friends earn coins before?

    From the view of PWE as a business I'd say: Why should they care? If ppl only income is botting and they don't have time to play the game anyways then to which point are they important to PWE? They generte 0 income for the business. On the view of other players: "Why do we need them? They only generate an overflow of coins and thus harming the economy." From the view of those players: "Why should I play a game that I can only afk to begin with? If I don't have time playing the game then why should I bother playing at all?"

    Botting is bad in any way and unnecessary because we managed to get along without it. We have too many players that are just F2P botting to get their gears and everntually quit again cuz they never really played to begin with.

    Sure the gold prices will stay high due to other reasons but the prices will surely go down be quite a bit. All those f2p bot-only players won't infest the gold buying anymore which leaves more (cheaper) gold for us farmers (: Sure, I am F2P too, but I contribute a sh!tload of mats to the economy and not just senseless coins. And mats are very important.

    Then i demand PW to bann from game all players with real life and a job.I ask PW to kick them from game cause they have only 3-4 hours per day to play the game and more in the weekend. Lets remove them from game cause they dont play 10hours+ spamming TT, FWS and other instances.

    If you talk about those botters with 10 chars with powerful gear, those R9rr botters then i agree with you they infest the gold buying. But if you talk about the players with 1-2 chars lvl100+ i dont agree with you. The problem arent the second category. The problem are the first category.
    And the mats that you contribute to the game some of those we botters buy them from you
    Or what do you think we bott just to keep the money in our bag? No, we use those money to buy mats for better gear.
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  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Then i demand PW to bann from game all players with real life and a job.I ask PW to kick them from game cause they have only 3-4 hours per day to play the game and more in the weekend. Lets remove them from game cause they dont play 10hours+ spamming TT, FWS and other instances.

    If you talk about those botters with 10 chars with powerful gear, those R9rr botters then i agree with you they infest the gold buying. But if you talk about the players with 1-2 chars lvl100+ i dont agree with you. The problem arent the second category. The problem are the first category.
    And the mats that you contribute to the game some of those we botters buy them from you
    Or what do you think we bott just to keep the money in our bag? No, we use those money to buy mats for better gear.

    While it is indeed true that some of my stuff is paid with bot money I gotta say that I even sell less since autoculti was introduced, tho I'm unaware as to why it's like that.

    I'm away 11 hours each day due to my job, too. And no, they shouldn't ban them. But if you don't have time to play a game then you shouldn't. All I do atm is go for dailies + events and thats it under the week tho I gotta say that I'm completely done with my gears and thus have many possibilities to earn money faster and more efficient then with TT.

    That's good for me. But I do understand how it is like when you don't have a decent char to farm with. You always strife to gain some coins to improve your char and that will be possible even without botting. A good bot produces ~2-3m coins each day max. That's one tt2-3 if you're unlucky. With a decent char thats ~ 45 minutes of time. So lets say you got more time on the weekends and do like 10 runs over the whole weekend then you surely have made a bigger income compared to botting a whole week.

    How to get gears to be able to farm? Jolly. Quests will give more coins with the new update. BH. Events. You don't need massive gears for that kinda stuff. The problem is that most ppl are impatient. Play any other major MMORPG out there and you will see that you need way way way more time to get decent gears there compared to here in PWI.

    If I were to start all over new...then I would isntantly roll 4 accounts. 1 barb, 1 cleric, 1 sin and 1 BM. Within a months time I would have all of them @lvl100, would do my BHs alone and farm tt. Hell I wouldn't even need any other guy for that. Just all by myself. (Note: this is an example of what would be possible, that's all! And yes, it would work out.)

    And now tell me again how much we need botting? xDDDD
    My Barb:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#146464

    My SB:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#141476
  • Foxyas - Dreamweaver
    Foxyas - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    What's the APS on the night shadows special swords?
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    What's the APS on the night shadows special swords?

    Standard sword 1.11. They gain a 20% aps bonus while being transformed. So they can reach 5.0 while being transformed (Demon) with standard aps gears.

    The r9 weap on CN is nearly the same as the dags from the sins, cept that the sword does not have the usual attack a sword has, no it's more or less the same as the sins daggers which is a major letdown.

    They removed the -int bonus CN got on the dags so I assume they will remove the -int bonus on the sword for our version as well.
    My Barb:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#146464

    My SB:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#141476
  • DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Standard sword 1.11. They gain a 20% aps bonus while being transformed. So they can reach 5.0 while being transformed (Demon) with standard aps gears.

    The r9 weap on CN is nearly the same as the dags from the sins, cept that the sword does not have the usual attack a sword has, no it's more or less the same as the sins daggers which is a major letdown.

    They removed the -int bonus CN got on the dags so I assume they will remove the -int bonus on the sword for our version as well.

    Saying they removed the interval from the daggers is somewhat false, our version is completely different and unique from CN's version, in all and any stats. That goes for all R9rr weapons and armours we have in our version.
    Soon™
    Well, maybe later, semi-retired.
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Saying they removed the interval from the daggers is somewhat false, our version is completely different and unique from CN's version, in all and any stats. That goes for all R9rr weapons and armours we have in our version.

    True, but the changes made for our version have always been the same throughout the classes. Seekers do have -int on their swords as well in CN, here they don't have -int. So it is quite safe to assume that the night shadow won't have -int on his weap as well^^

    And nah, I wouldn't say they are completely different, they got a lil more defense, we have a little more DMG (cept for their sins daggers...-0,1 int is madness). But it is indeed true that those are 2 different sets.
    My Barb:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#146464

    My SB:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#141476
  • DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver
    DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    True, but the changes made for our version have always been the same throughout the classes. Seekers do have -int on their swords as well in CN, here they don't have -int. So it is quite safe to assume that the night shadow won't have -int on his weap as well^^

    And nah, I wouldn't say they are completely different, they got a lil more defense, we have a little more DMG (cept for their sins daggers...-0,1 int is madness). But it is indeed true that those are 2 different sets.

    Compare our version to theirs

    Something along the lines of this (do note the averages thingy)

    That's a pretty big difference to me when you add up all gear pieces.
    Soon™
    Well, maybe later, semi-retired.
  • faari
    faari Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Has anyone got any info on r9 weapons of the new classes yet , if any got any lnks or wat ever i would really appreciate it ty
  • Joe - Morai
    Joe - Morai Posts: 1,299 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    faari wrote: »
    Has anyone got any info on r9 weapons of the new classes yet , if any got any lnks or wat ever i would really appreciate it ty

    No, simply because there are no r9 weaps for our version done yet. We can only see the r9 weaps from the CN version which are quite different from ours...BUT!

    Judging from the stats and comparision with weapons from the other classes it can be safely assumed that the Scythe (Moon Fairy) Weapon will be nearly identical to the clerics glaive while the armor can be compared to the psy-version (which means crit over channeling) and for the night Shadows it will be more or less assassin like in terms of both weapon and armor.

    So if you wanna know how the DMG/Stats will be...take the clerics(weap)/psy(armor) for the fairies and the sin for the night shadows.
    My Barb:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#146464

    My SB:
    mypers.pw/1.8/#141476
  • Toriell - Sanctuary
    Toriell - Sanctuary Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    hyourinn wrote: »
    Ah thanks. & are those flyers stashable?
    Wish I could've gotten the flyers from the primal world starter area
    b:surrender
    As far as I can understand it is account stashable, but don't forget that the flyers are different from from those from primal world, for example elves get shalim's glory now, not darkflame.
  • faari
    faari Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No, simply because there are no r9 weaps for our version done yet. We can only see the r9 weaps from the CN version which are quite different from ours...BUT!

    Judging from the stats and comparision with weapons from the other classes it can be safely assumed that the Scythe (Moon Fairy) Weapon will be nearly identical to the clerics glaive while the armor can be compared to the psy-version (which means crit over channeling) and for the night Shadows it will be more or less assassin like in terms of both weapon and armor.

    So if you wanna know how the DMG/Stats will be...take the clerics(weap)/psy(armor) for the fairies and the sin for the night shadows.

    thank you
  • hyourinn
    hyourinn Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    As far as I can understand it is account stashable, but don't forget that the flyers are different from from those from primal world, for example elves get shalim's glory now, not darkflame.

    Ughhh nooo I liked the other set. b:angry Primal World was out since new year's apparently and I didn't find out til the week it was being closed 5 months later -.-
  • Foxyas - Dreamweaver
    Foxyas - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Standard sword 1.11. They gain a 20% aps bonus while being transformed. So they can reach 5.0 while being transformed (Demon) with standard aps gears.

    The r9 weap on CN is nearly the same as the dags from the sins, cept that the sword does not have the usual attack a sword has, no it's more or less the same as the sins daggers which is a major letdown.

    They removed the -int bonus CN got on the dags so I assume they will remove the -int bonus on the sword for our version as well.

    How long does the form last for? I hope it to be a decent amount to be able to keep up with sparks. I was planning on going demon anyway, could make for a fun change of farming toons(making my sin sage so he can sage BP my future night shadow and manage 5aps with sword at the same time).
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    How long does the form last for? I hope it to be a decent amount to be able to keep up with sparks. I was planning on going demon anyway, could make for a fun change of farming toons(making my sin sage so he can sage BP my future night shadow and manage 5aps with sword at the same time).

    Taken from the Russian skill page and then translated, the duration of the transformation seems to las 18 s, with a c/d of 90s.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • darx
    darx Posts: 3
    edited October 2014
    How long does the form last for? I hope it to be a decent amount to be able to keep up with sparks. I was planning on going demon anyway, could make for a fun change of farming toons(making my sin sage so he can sage BP my future night shadow and manage 5aps with sword at the same time).

    Form lasts 18secs on 1st level and gains 3secs per lvl, so 45secs max.
  • DeffyNature - Archosaur
    DeffyNature - Archosaur Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    darx wrote: »
    Form lasts 18secs on 1st level and gains 3secs per lvl, so 45secs max.

    Are you sure it has 10 lvls? If the progression you say it has is the same for the moon fairy, which has a demon form of 27s from the start, they'd get over a minute in it, which would make it overly op, considering the benefits they get.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • darx
    darx Posts: 3
    edited October 2014
    Are you sure it has 10 lvls? If the progression you say it has is the same for the moon fairy, which has a demon form of 27s from the start, they'd get over a minute in it, which would make it overly op, considering the benefits they get.

    I believe MF form is fixed 30sec duration because it adds straight out damage and move speed bonus while NS form has 10 levels because it doesnt provide as direct bonus as MF form. By that i mean MF gets direct damage boost to all skills and move speed which enhances their overall fight ability while NS gets ranged damage reduce which depends on distance and attack speed boost which well, its hard to be too dependant on aps these days.
  • Foxyas - Dreamweaver
    Foxyas - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    What about the upgradeable land mounts? Can they also fly(as I saw in 1 screenshot) or swim only? And is it looking to be an expensive upgrade?
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