Community Update [September]

sparkiesoft · September 2014

It's that time again, time for a monthly update for all things PWI.

Milestone Giveaways

In case you haven't noticed, we're running a partnered giveaway with Arc. All you have to do is like their page, and once certain milestones are reached, they'll give out free prizes!

Here is the event details: http://www.arcgames.com/en/arc-news/detail/7003343-win-free-stuff-in-pwi

Here you can find the thread with the codes so far: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1712491

PWI Anniversary

You can find the details here: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1712511

To clear up any confusion, the events are daily, so you can complete them once a day. You should be getting all prizes listed, however if you're not, let me know in this thread so I can have our team look into it. Part 2 of this event will begin sometime next week, plus we will be doing even more code giveaways, so keep an eye out.

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

Boomz - Harshlands · September 2014

yesterday i did not recieve all of the items, i only recieved 10 celemoon and 2 radiant shards. I will do it agian today to confirm however that is all i got.

Xainou - Sanctuary · September 2014

So, what about DQ?

Roseary - Sanctuary · September 2014

I have done the Anniversary event 10 times over the last two days on 5 different characters and each time I complete it I get:

x10 Celemoon
x1 Case of Moonlight

Then one of the following:
x2 Primordial Blood
x2 Holy Pill
x1 Rank A Card Pack

ZentDreigon - Raging Tide · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

You should be getting all prizes listed, however if you're not, let me know in this thread so I can have our team look into it. Part 2 of this event will begin sometime next week, plus we will be doing even more code giveaways, so keep an eye out.

I received only the Celemoon and Primordial Blood.

I must say it's a bit confusing as the Arc website says it's random and you say we get all. b:puzzled

sparkiesoft wrote: »

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

b:laugh

Asterelle - Sanctuary · September 2014

Any chance you can push for a fix for Resource Wars on PVE servers? Currently it is impossible to prevent any blue name from destroying your resource base and blue names can afk aoe on the cart spawn locations and are almost guaranteed to kill every cart that spawns.

The easiest fix would be to make the cart and the resource base mobs require pvp mode to damage. We already see mobs with this flag in the convoy escort quest in primal world (this mob) and in the veno instance Lyceum of Cultivation (I think?).

Turning on a single flag in two mobs would be a 5 minute fix.

sparkiesoft · September 2014

ZentDreigon - Raging Tide wrote: »

I received only the Celemoon and Primordial Blood.

I must say it's a bit confusing as the Arc website says it's random and you say we get all. b:puzzled

b:laugh

It is possible that is the case, however I was told all prizes were to be received. I will have to check back with my PM when he gets back to confirm.

lbrandon · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

Way to serve the interest in the community.
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1710541

Verenor - Morai · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

It was kinda obvious the devs would want to leave it as it is, means no extra work for them. Give my thanks to the dev's for cutting off any new playerbase as they will all get heavily discouraged to catch up to current competition-standards.

Three times lv100 + cashing R9 + dailies every day every month for half a year just to reach our current status of what was last year the equivalent of simply hitting lv100 with FC hypers. Give that comparison to any new player, and add to it back in those days leveling was 10 times faster.

You (as in all who were involved in the decision) might've effectively killed off new players in preperations of PW2. I'm almost getting convinced PW2 is a new game and not an update on this PW.

sparkiesoft · September 2014

Just confirmed, the Anniversary prizes are random. The blog has been changed to reflect that. Sorry all for the confusion.

tirus21 · September 2014

yesterday i only recieved 10 celemoon and 2 radiant shards and today 10 celemoon and 2x holly pills b:surrender

ZentDreigon - Raging Tide · September 2014

lbrandon wrote: »

Way to serve the interest in the alt community.
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1710541

Fixed for you. b:avoid

nbreaking · September 2014

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

So, what about DQ?

There won't be a DQ system, it's time to let go... I would like to see it back, but that won't happen.
Every single time anyone brings up the DQ system there are no replies.

Community update May:
"DQ Rewards

Yes, yes I know this is a heavy topic. That said, I've been working with the team on how to best go about creating something similar, and will have more details as they come in. Saying that, we absolutely do plan on bringing this back in some way, shape, or form."

Community update June (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V LOL):
"DQ Rewards

Yes, yes I know this is a heavy topic. That said, I've been working with the team on how to best go about creating something similar, and will have more details as they come in. Saying that, we absolutely do plan on bringing this back in some way, shape, or form."

Community update July, August and September, nothing on DQ... 3 months since anyone says anything about this.

Sparkie, please, just tell us already that this is not going to happen so we can finally rest b:sad

ixmeepxi · September 2014

Well no FC, there goes new players and all the alts :P My poor veno will be forever 75.

My daily routine:
Do Dailies
Spam FC

New Daily Routine:
Do dailes
Log off

Zsw - Dreamweaver · September 2014

Verenor - Morai wrote: »

It was kinda obvious the devs would want to leave it as it is, means no extra work for them. Give my thanks to the dev's for cutting off any new playerbase as they will all get heavily discouraged to catch up to current competition-standards.

Three times lv100 + cashing R9 + dailies every day every month for half a year just to reach our current status of what was last year the equivalent of simply hitting lv100 with FC hypers. Give that comparison to any new player, and add to it back in those days leveling was 10 times faster.

You (as in who was involved in the decision) might've effectively killed off new players in preperations of PW2. I'm almost getting convinced PW2 is a new game and not an update on this PW.

Honestly this is true. Back when I played, you had to get 101, merchanted/farmed for r9, then did alot of warsongs and NW for r9rr with good stats. Then merchanted/farmed more for +12 and JoSD. That was hard enough for new players already.

But now? You have to get to 101 not once, not twice, but three times. You have to get r9rr +12 with josd like before, but now you also need full S cards. In addition, just any S card isn't enough. Nope, you gotta aim for the Nuema Portal set which you can get completely by luck. And that's not all, you have to feed it lower level cards so it can reach lv 80/80. Finally, for the really ambitious people, you can even reawaken it for more stats...

That's not even mentioning how you have to do dailies everyday so you don't fall behind on Spirit from your Arcane Sky boost, or how you have to farm nuemas in addition to that, or how you have to keep up with your primal passives while getting new primal skills.

Sigh, just thinking about it makes me cringe. If I were a new player, I would NOT play this game, knowing how far behind I am. And that is sad, because this is a good game.

creysero · September 2014

ixmeepxi wrote: »

Well no FC, there goes new players and all the alts :P My poor veno will be forever 75.

My daily routine:
Do Dailies
Spam FC

New Daily Routine:
Do dailes
Log off

Agree

But i dont think they really care since they are opening Perfect World 2 soon

so they just hope that all players go there and use their money there :P

ixmeepxi · September 2014

Mhm but from the threads, it looks as if PW2 will be an expansion...since that's how their other games went. So.....these changes will be there too. I know it's not confirmed but whatever haha. I honestly lost interest in this now. I enjoyed leveling and gearing toons more than the game itself.

_Thoren_ - Harshlands · September 2014

Too little too late. If hypers were restricted in fc sooner it would of worked out fine but the damage has been done. It's like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. On a sidenote. Zhen party anyone? Have'nt been in one since 2009. b:chuckle

DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

*starts the slow clap*
Bravo, another nail in the coffin, just a few more to go.

Aubree - Dreamweaver · September 2014

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Honestly this is true. Back when I played, you had to get 101, merchanted/farmed for r9, then did alot of warsongs and NW for r9rr with good stats. Then merchanted/farmed more for +12 and JoSD. That was hard enough for new players already.

But now? You have to get to 101 not once, not twice, but three times. You have to get r9rr +12 with josd like before, but now you also need full S cards. In addition, just any S card isn't enough. Nope, you gotta aim for the Nuema Portal set which you can get completely by luck. And that's not all, you have to feed it lower level cards so it can reach lv 80/80. Finally, for the really ambitious people, you can even reawaken it for more stats...

That's not even mentioning how you have to do dailies everyday so you don't fall behind on Spirit from your Arcane Sky boost, or how you have to farm nuemas in addition to that, or how you have to keep up with your primal passives while getting new primal skills.

Sigh, just thinking about it makes me cringe. If I were a new player, I would NOT play this game, knowing how far behind I am. And that is sad, because this is a good game.

What the reasoning of 101 x3 as opposed to 101 x1 and 100 x2 or 105 x3? Seems to me to stay competitive you need a min of 101 x1 and 100 x2 aor 105 x3 to be really competitive. Gear goes by historical level. 105 x3 would be to be competitive as per stats.

Also @ Sparkie, please fix PV EXPLOIT. People are paying openers to complete multiple PV's. We know this is not how the instance was meant to be played. Can we expect a similar fix like PW did with caster nirvana tokens? Or make PV token disappear upon leaving instance? Forget anyone who died and had to town port. They should learn how not to fail at leveling!! ! Amirite?

That fix should enrage all the right people b:laugh

Strife_son - Sanctuary · September 2014

Yes please fix PV. You should only be able to do one a day, two if you have that shroud thingamajig. Let's make the game work the way it is supposed to, finally.

ixmeepxi · September 2014

Might as well, take out the mid range leveling with FC
Take out the endgame leveling with pv

Eoria - Harshlands · September 2014

You need 105 on one past life and then 103 on current in order to be semi-competitive. The 105 allows you to see sins/archers and the 103 ensures you do full damage on 105x3s. But most of the people after that will just be botting/PVing.

The real issue is non-rb 80-95. hf with that if you can't find an rb to run you through the low level PVs.

Suprprutty - Lost City · September 2014

Okay.

Not really too happy about FCC not getting fixed because I was using it a lot but are people seriously saying they can't play without FCC at all? So you consider spamming a single instance or buying EXP rooms all day, actually playing the game?

Once you're done leveling alt 100 you're gonna do what? Rinse and repeat?? Sorry this isn't Leveling Simulator Online.

But I wish they had kept hypers in fcc for 80+ at least, that level range kinda sucks.

JessJess - Raging Tide · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

FC & Earning Limits

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

Un-fricking-believable. Despite the fact that the majority of your player base wants hypers RE-enabled in fc you are giving us all a big fat middle finger. After four faithful years of this being the only MMORPG I ever played I have finally gotten fed up with your lack of caring about this gaming community. All your game improvements are meant only to bring in more $$$$ and if something breaks that doesn't bring in $$$$$ then you guys don't gaf about it. Go to hell. b:angry

muchamota · September 2014

sparkiesoft wrote: »

I know the changes were not listed in the patch notes, but the devs+team have decided to leave FC as is, and not change it back to allowing hypers.

As for Earning Limits, the UI is being made and will be implemented in the next patch or two. So along with FC, this change is staying as well.

I'm sure there is more, and I will update this thread if that is the case.

totally unfair

Time to play another game

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver · September 2014

So much butthurt and raging over this bahahaha.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver · September 2014

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Honestly this is true. Back when I played, you had to get 101, merchanted/farmed for r9, then did alot of warsongs and NW for r9rr with good stats. Then merchanted/farmed more for +12 and JoSD. That was hard enough for new players already.

But now? You have to get to 101 not once, not twice, but three times. You have to get r9rr +12 with josd like before, but now you also need full S cards. In addition, just any S card isn't enough. Nope, you gotta aim for the Nuema Portal set which you can get completely by luck. And that's not all, you have to feed it lower level cards so it can reach lv 80/80. Finally, for the really ambitious people, you can even reawaken it for more stats...

That's not even mentioning how you have to do dailies everyday so you don't fall behind on Spirit from your Arcane Sky boost, or how you have to farm nuemas in addition to that, or how you have to keep up with your primal passives while getting new primal skills.

Sigh, just thinking about it makes me cringe. If I were a new player, I would NOT play this game, knowing how far behind I am. And that is sad, because this is a good game.

I am going to have to agree with that sentiment.

However there are indeed still ways of leveling quickish... it will never be as quick/easy as it was with hypers in fc, this change is without a doubt a double edged sword.

On one hand:

People will eventually find the grind too difficult to continue/too hard to keep up with the difference in gear/levels, especially when/if they feel pressured to get both thanks to the mess that is NW. (which I might add isn't good at all.

On the other hand:

If they read about it on the forums/are told by others, that too will make them leave (or) feel pressured in a way that is not good for the game.

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On the plus side though:

We should eventually see a reappearance of old 'dead' instances, but they REALLY need to be revamped in a way that is rewarding to ALL REGARDLESS if they are rebirth or not, the rewards BOTH exp AND item wise, if there isn't we likely wont see anyone picking up these instances like they did in the past/leveling will be too 'tough' for new players to actually compete with the older vets, especially the ones in badass gear.

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Obviously no one should just be handed level or gear, but if its is too hard to compete in either then people will eventually see this and in all likely hood move on.

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EDIT: As I said though, there are definitely still ways of easily leveling, but they're a bit obscure/are still going to take far longer/more 'work' than what it took with fc, which some say is a good thing, as there will be less of a chance of a 'fc baby' ruining a run, but yea without a decent/'quick' way to level up newcomers will eventually become aware of the 'insane' hurdle that they must jump over in order to become semi competitive in the game, which so isn't good for the longevity of the game.

RankNine - Momaganon · September 2014

inb4 lvl scroll 1-100 in the boutique

LuckingFoco - Raging Tide · September 2014

No more FC hypering, best news I have read all year from PWI. I have enjoyed finding BHs much easier, and PV squads (which is much better than FC)

As for having to reach 101 again three times, its simple and doesn't take long at all. From the level you can first start getting fantasy fruit bags, save them whenever you get them as well as any other item that you can use to gain xp like profundity scrolls, elemental essentials, etc.

RBI do the yellow quest chain and PV/BH. When you have to level the old fashioned way, PV/BH and use the xp items. Do base quests at level 90, and CS each day. 100 in no time. Reach level 70 or so when RBI save all the fantasy fruit bags again for RBII. Then follow the same stems for RBI. 100 in no time. Also check for quests you didnt do because you FCed initially that give out good XP.

Who needs FC?

Zsw - Dreamweaver · September 2014

Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What the reasoning of 101 x3 as opposed to 101 x1 and 100 x2 or 105 x3? Seems to me to stay competitive you need a min of 101 x1 and 100 x2 aor 105 x3 to be really competitive. Gear goes by historical level. 105 x3 would be to be competitive as per stats.

Also @ Sparkie, please fix PV EXPLOIT. People are paying openers to complete multiple PV's. We know this is not how the instance was meant to be played. Can we expect a similar fix like PW did with caster nirvana tokens? Or make PV token disappear upon leaving instance? Forget anyone who died and had to town port. They should learn how not to fail at leveling!! ! Amirite?

That fix should enrage all the right people b:laugh

No real reason. Just easier to say 101x3 than 101x1 + 100x1 + 105x1. Also because 101 is the min. level to use r9, and that the softcap starts to kick in at at 101 where the exp required starts to rise sharply.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

EDIT: As I said though, there are definitely still ways of easily leveling, but they're a bit obscure/are still going to take far longer/more 'work' than what it took with fc, which some say is a good thing, as there will be less of a chance of a 'fc baby' ruining a run, but yea without a decent/'quick' way to level up newcomers will eventually become aware of the 'insane' hurdle that they must jump over in order to become semi competitive in the game, which so isn't good for the longevity of the game.

I never had any case of "a 'fc baby' ruining a run" to be honest. Regardless though, making it harder to stay competitive can never be a good thing, whether for the player base or the company.

The company needs competitive players to cashshop. If competitive players get too discouraged, then no more income from this game.

Majority of the players are at least somewhat competitive. If new players get too discouraged, then theres no competition means. So people will get bored and the player base will die.

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