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  • laiwaisan
    laiwaisan Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    AND YOUR KING TROLL LOLb:laugh
  • scruncy
    scruncy Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    in my personal opinion, the whole QQ'ing is not about that some poor player cannot catch up with lvl anymore. there are plenty of other ways to lvl and to lvl fast.

    the real problem is you cant buy/sell fc anymore.
    the poor former big room buyer has to lvl now by himself and cant just buy his levels up.
    the poor former big room seller has to find a new income.
    its all about the money baby...
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    scruncy wrote: »
    in my personal opinion, the whole QQ'ing is not about that some poor player cannot catch up with lvl anymore. there are plenty of other ways to lvl and to lvl fast.

    the real problem is you cant buy/sell fc anymore.
    the poor former big room buyer has to lvl now by himself and cant just buy his levels up.
    the poor former big room seller has to find a new income.
    its all about the money baby...

    Then explain how I have a problem with it being a player who does not sell or buy FC. I FC'd rarely but it was nice to have as part of a whole. Quests etc only get so farbefore it turns into a grind. Then in comes earning time. If they are to have earning time, then they should have left FC as it was.
  • XXxICExXx - Morai
    XXxICExXx - Morai Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Couple of scenarios

    1. they sent broken patch (the one that allowed hypering) and they never fixed it because they didnt know what was broken or how to fix it, new patch comes along and fixes it, they dont know how to fix or "break" the new patch to give us hypering back

    2. Devs are busy with PW2 that they dont have the time, new game takes priority, they gna shift us to new game perhaps so FC is not an issue?

    I think we need some more information on the PW2, is it an update, is it a new game? what does this mean for PWI? Is it worth spending real life cash on anything significant?

    Anyways just surmising b:laugh
  • princessjulie
    princessjulie Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Temeilion - Harshlands wrote: »
    I`m 100% ok with no fc

    Im 100% agianst earning time


    NO-ONE learns there class 1-100..BECAUSE EVERY CLASS CHANGES once they get to 100 with primal skills,Dont even use the same combo`s and all your skills basicly change..order useage,etc

    All this BS talk about "now people will learn there class" is total ignorance..im sick of hearing it and your puppets are clueless..


    SO lets look at the game as it is now

    TW...DEAD

    NW 5 months ago 300 per team...Today 75 if lucky

    PVP..DEAD

    And the gap between the bottom and the top is 100% unclimbable for anyone not willing to drop 5k into it..even a few hundred bucks now gets you no-where

    Keep FC out of the picture ..but for GOD SAKE get rid of earning time...Are you seriously saying you want to restrict peoples playtime in your already Empty game ?


    Come on guys..i love this game..and even though people may not agree with everything i say...the above is 100% fact and plain for any person to see

    Add to it the fact no-one up top is willing to drag newbs through anything...hell we see people asking for weapon links for bh 59-100 now and groups asking for only 2nd rebirthed players..

    Now they added a new stipulation."Earning time"..for the love of god cant you see what this is doing to the game most of us love ?

    thank god your not the only F2P gaming company on the market anymore..and soon you`ll see just how boned headed your supposed fix`s(3years late) are..

    we are not China..we DO NOT have the player base to support there style of game play....thats just a damn fact...WAKE UP..

    Our few give u just as much Cash as all billion of them..why not listen to us and give us what we know will fix this game...Limiting anyones playtime is seriously the dumbest **** i have ever heard of in a game...want to control BOT`s ? put a timer on the bot..dont destroy your own game to fix a problem you created in the first damn place by not enforceing your own original TOS

    Sparkie man..seriously dude u guys need help...pay for my plane ticket..i`ll fly from philly and come show you guys how to do this right and grow..otherwise you might wanna start looking for a new job..cause 20+ years of End game MMO RPG playing and this is the dumbest **** i have ever heard of..and right on the verge of several big named companys about to realease revolutionary new f2p games..

    you guys are clueless and soon you`ll be jobless
    trollerest wrote: »
    Everything is slowly dying. The reason that PWE doesnt care is because of the new PWI2 that will be released. It will be a whole new game. You will have to start from scratch. They literally soaked every penny they could out of PWI and it has seen its end.

    Earning time. Really? You want people to play and lvl up, but you restrict them on how long they can play they game and get anything. PWI is making it so people leave the game. So when they shut down the servers unannounced, less people are going to rage.

    Also sparkie cant read if his life depended on it.
    Look at the new spend rewards post. It gives 2 end dates. Potentially **** over people.
    He NEVER proof reads his stuff. I could go back on his announcements and find stuff wrong, or conflicting info on 99% of them. The guy is a complete joke and this is supposed to be the community manager/voice of PWE? I am pretty sure this guy has velcro on his shoes cause he doesnt know how to tie laces up.

    If everyone would take a second and tilt your head back and look up to see all the flying ****s that PWE gives.


    Everything is pretty much dead on PWI
    (harshlands)
    TW (crystal sprints), NW (luck to have 300-350 players per NW), PvP (not sure what that means anymore), Nirvana (both the band and the instance), FC (good for a couple quests), Botting (earning time caused lots of peopel to stop). Event the weekly events like COA are dead.

    Only people that care are the players for the most part. As for PWE...... Like I said, tilt your head back and look up.
    Temeilion - Harshlands wrote: »
    DO you think the serious hardcore power gamers will jump into PWI`s next game when this is how they handle things ?


    Maybe 5 years ago when no-one else was offering f2p games..but that ship has sailed..


    Tuns of companys are not only competeing but ramping up there numbers across the board..while pwe and everything they touch is slowly turning to dust


    Simply put Gamers remember...**** us over now..and good luck getting us to come to your new games..we wont care if its liquid gold..it will fail..


    400 emploeyes in redwood cali ..and they have 0 control or power to fix/change adapt anything sent from China..

    Maybe its time us games went for "Made in America" products agian..

    You people are hilarious, I'm just laughing my rear off at you you right now. You have no clue how the Mod job works. I know someone in game who actually knows people at the north america office, and they really do have no power to do much of anything unless China allows it. China owns the game, they have the say, quit blaming the Mods here, they bust their butt trying to make change happen, but are probably rarely heard, for what? So you can bash them?! Maybe you should pull your heads out of your rear and get your facts straight!

    And fyi, I don't know what game your playing, but in my server, the only active events ARE Nation Wars and Territory War, and I'm actually quite tired of both, when I first started playing, people actually use to run real instances!
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  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    So how many unused instances do we have now?
    Why do I still give this company my money?
  • princessjulie
    princessjulie Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ZentDreigon - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They probably kept it hyperless because of this. I wonder if in the future they plan on putting it back on. I hope not, but, as far as I know, the fact that people pour money to gear up might bring the hypers in FC again.



    FC adiction is a very sad thing. This update is the intervention. b:chuckle



    This is what we mean when we say people will learn their class.

    I'm gonna use mystics as exemple here. Those mystics who uber-hypered FC tend to be focused on only one aspect of the class (either DDing or Healing). Now, those who levels the old fashioned way learned to do both. And if these were brave enough they'd try and learn new things instead of the numerous "what is the best combo skills I can use" threads we have on forum.





    The terrifying "playing the game". b:shocked How dare they make us... PLAY the game?!?!?! b:laugh



    Let's just hope the babies rage quit so we have some cleansing in the playerbase.

    +100 to all of this, it sums up my thoughts exactly.

    And for those of you saying FC loss sucks, I see quite a few people disagreeing with you, maybe you should think about that?
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  • trollerest
    trollerest Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    princessjulie wrote: »
    You people are hilarious, I'm just laughing my rear off at you you right now. You have no clue how the Mod job works. I know someone in game who actually knows people at the north america office, and they really do have no power to do much of anything unless China allows it. China owns the game, they have the say, quit blaming the Mods here, they bust their butt trying to make change happen, but are probably rarely heard, for what? So you can bash them?! Maybe you should pull your heads out of your rear and get your facts straight!

    And fyi, I don't know what game your playing, but in my server, the only active events ARE Nation Wars and Territory War, and I'm actually quite tired of both, when I first started playing, people actually use to run real instances!


    I am laughing my "rear" off at you. No where did I mention any of the mods.
    So why dont you pull your head out of your "rear" as you say, and learn to read.

    I know that china has the call on everything, BUT, PWE here can voice concerns and ideas that can be made to this version. Problem is they don't. How do I know? They can't even communicate to the players on what is going on.
    They **** up announcements consistently.
    They way they handle spend rewards and stuff now is to manually send them out WEEKS after the fact.
    Lets not mention the problems that ARC was supposed to fix, but actually made worse.
    Tell me 1 thing that PWE has done right that was good for both longevity of the game and keeping/bringing players to the game?

    Oh i forgot, the ****** DQ rewards replacement. Almost a year later, and we have ZERO news on it. Nothing.
  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    If PWE could never do anything without china permission,and connection between them is so bad


    How come we had rank9 before China did???


    So even if they need permission they obviously got it then.


    And why??Because they do stuff only when it comes to making money.


    They dont give a damn what players say or want.They do what they need to make money.


    If you people didnt realize it trough all this years there is something wrong with you.


    Especially this warriors like princessjulie and mods that defend this company as if they are their own children...gg boys
  • profit
    profit Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I see alot of comments on fc and earning time i my self liked the botting it made good coin and will miss it but if pwi choses to remove it im good with that. In 6 yrs seen alot of changes....But the 1 thing i just dont understand is why would any game want to limit your game playing time . Best i can figure is we have some sort of limit of xp, damagae how ever they calculate earing time can be hit in 8 hrs of botting so if some one farms eden for apoc pages or does old school zen parties we could also hit our earning time in 8 hrs . Ok so now what reflection for the next 18 hrs . So help me here what is the point of earning time if its to control botting well why not just use the cultavation system to control botting like you do with hypers or is that just to simple . PWI you need to read these forums every sever is telling you your killing the game and you just march on like well we all know what your doing not listening and not caring . PWI just like the kids at college just send money and dont ask why.
  • LuckingFoco - Raging Tide
    LuckingFoco - Raging Tide Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    nixop wrote: »
    If PWE could never do anything without china permission,and connection between them is so bad


    How come we had rank9 before China did???


    So even if they need permission they obviously got it then.


    And why??Because they do stuff only when it comes to making money.


    They dont give a damn what players say or want.They do what they need to make money.


    If you people didnt realize it trough all this years there is something wrong with you.


    Especially this warriors like princessjulie and mods that defend this company as if they are their own children...gg boys

    So I guess since its so bad you quit playing a long time ago, right?
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    XXxICExXx - Morai wrote: »
    Couple of scenarios

    1. they sent broken patch (the one that allowed hypering) and they never fixed it because they didnt know what was broken or how to fix it, new patch comes along and fixes it, they dont know how to fix or "break" the new patch to give us hypering back

    Nah they know about it cause often after major updates the hyper wasn't working in FC and the devs in China was fixing it and put it back. My guess is they got tired of changing stuff for our version and doesn't care anymore enough to waste time to fix it. (I'm not saying it's something that is hard/long to do, but they are maybe just lazy)
    princessjulie wrote: »
    You people are hilarious, I'm just laughing my rear off at you you right now. You have no clue how the Mod job works. I know someone in game who actually knows people at the north america office, and they really do have no power to do much of anything unless China allows it. China owns the game, they have the say, quit blaming the Mods here, they bust their butt trying to make change happen, but are probably rarely heard, for what? So you can bash them?! Maybe you should pull your heads out of your rear and get your facts straight

    Hum.. okay..

    You do know that sparkie isn't a mod right? And that the mods doesn't work in the America office? The mods are the people moderating the forum, they are players that did volunteer to moderate the forum, currently the active mods are Kossy, Venus and Kris. (not sure if Skai is still a mod or not, but he's kinda inactive)

    So if you read again the 3 posts you quoted, there's no bashing on the mods.

    You should be the one getting your facts straight princess, sparkie is the CM (community manager) not a mod.
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  • Suprprutty - Lost City
    Suprprutty - Lost City Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Wrong, and do you know why? Because if grinding out levels was the majority, the maps wouldn't have emptied. What you are advocating is the majority serve the minority of players. In no way are people who want to grind out levels restricted from doing so. All they had to do was find more like minded people. And if there wasn't any, well that's not the fault of the majority of players.

    So if the majority want to destroy the planet it's not their fault for being the majority right? b:laugh They shouldn't have to serve the minority's opinion. Good thing this is a game then! At least the only thing they caused was emptying the map in an mmo.

    Really depends on case sometimes the majority is right and sometimes the minority is but i guess we should blame pwe/pwi for having hypers on in fc in the first place and killing the game from the day anni packs were put in boutique and all went downhill from there.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Suprprutty - Lost City wrote: »
    So if the majority want to destroy the planet it's not their fault for being the majority right? b:laugh They shouldn't have to serve the minority's opinion. Good thing this is a game then! At least the only thing they caused was emptying the map in an mmo.

    Really depends on case sometimes the majority is right and sometimes the minority is but i guess we should blame pwe/pwi for having hypers on in fc in the first place and killing the game from the day anni packs were put in boutique and all went downhill from there.

    You still fail to see the difference. When you could hyper FC, every player was free to make the choice on how they wanted to lvl. As it is now with all the QQ from the minority, no one is free to hyper in FC. The minority cries on forums and the stupid people in charge listen to them. Perfect example of this is holy path no longer being squad buff. I could probably think of a few more.

    You were always free to find like minded people to grind the game out with.

    Comparing the game, pure leisure, with no real world consequences to the destruction of the only home we have (Mother Earth), is a red herring.


    ETA: I also see certain people saying oh just go 1-80 in PQ. As if that is a better option than FC. It makes no sense to cry and complain about FC then say how you can do it somewhere else in the game. It's utterly ridiculous. It just show that people are BIASED against FC and the era of TB. Someone else complained about use of the bow in FC>
  • zionwarrior
    zionwarrior Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Any chance you can push for a fix for Resource Wars on PVE servers? Currently it is impossible to prevent any blue name from destroying your resource base and blue names can afk aoe on the cart spawn locations and are almost guaranteed to kill every cart that spawns.

    The easiest fix would be to make the cart and the resource base mobs require pvp mode to damage. We already see mobs with this flag in the convoy escort quest in primal world (this mob) and in the veno instance Lyceum of Cultivation (I think?).

    Turning on a single flag in two mobs would be a 5 minute fix.

    Had to reply to this, as it is bugged but the easiest fix is not really that hard and forcing people to go pk for over 10 hours for a event just so people have to hide in town is not the best option for pve servers we are on a pve server to pk if we wish. I pk when I want and when I have the resources to do so. The event was originally meant to be pk enabled when your faction name went gold and you had event pk based such as the Mayhem in Morai event which is pk enabled for the duration of the event. Forcing people to pk based off that is not right. Also your claim to the veno instance being pk enabled is actually a confirmed bug they just have not bothered to fix it. Also it was confirmed that the pvp requirement for the convoy was also a error but they made no intent to fix it as they do not wish too at this time. Which granted is stupid but how it goes when they have higher priorities elsewhere so yea.b:surrender

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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    zionwarrior wrote: »
    Had to reply to this, as it is bugged but the easiest fix is not really that hard and forcing people to go pk for over 10 hours for a event just so people have to hide in town is not the best option for pve servers we are on a pve server to pk if we wish. I pk when I want and when I have the resources to do so. The event was originally meant to be pk enabled when your faction name went gold and you had event pk based such as the Mayhem in Morai event which is pk enabled for the duration of the event. Forcing people to pk based off that is not right. Also your claim to the veno instance being pk enabled is actually a confirmed bug they just have not bothered to fix it. Also it was confirmed that the pvp requirement for the convoy was also a error but they made no intent to fix it as they do not wish too at this time. Which granted is stupid but how it goes when they have higher priorities elsewhere so yea.b:surrender

    -edited a few typos

    Forcing people in PK mode could very well work like it does in TW/NW.

    They'll probably never modify the Lycaeum because it was made for PvP servers. China only has PvP servers. I have doubts they'll do something about the Resource Wars, honestly, if they never modified Lycaeum and it's already been an year.
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  • viviane19
    viviane19 Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    LostPoet - Dreamweaver wrote: »

    Video games come out with new thing all the time. Some expand the map, add dungeons, some add new classes and other content, some change the story into another path, some increase level cap. With the rebirth expansions, pwi took the leveling route. That's perfectly fine, but now they are taking away the #1 source of exp?
    That'd like doubling the size of the current map, but removing teleport, and disabling flyers and mounts and having it covered in mobs that slow move speed. Yea, you can go and explore and quest and do all the stuff in this new map. But it will take you 5 hours to just get from point A to point B. People get frustrated and loose interest fast.... b:angry


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  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Speaking as someone who does not use hypers and has rarely run FF (and when I did, it was full runs for the fun of it and not for exp)...

    Levelling a new character is stupid easy and fast up to level 80. They revamped all of the quests to make them like 5/10 mobs which is done in no time, and they give way more exp and money. Jolly Jones gives money too so getting skills while you level is more affordable. My last new character levelled so fast from all of the exp items they throw at you that she couldn't do her FB29 until around level 39, and had to skip a large amount of quests.

    80+ does become a problem. I've done it on countless characters now without hypers and FF, and I will admit I am sick of it because the quests do not give enough exp to make them worth the time. They need to revamp the quests 80+ the same way they did the lower level ones... make them maybe 30 mobs requirement instead of 80-100 and upgrade the exp received. Maybe a new daily for levels 80-99 non-RA that gives decent exp would be nice, as an alternative for people that don't have the time to spend on Paperclip.

    Reawakening is easy enough but seriously boring. They need to add some quests for people that completed their quests the first time around. I am extremely sick of relevelling my characters because there is nothing to do like I had for my original levels. I want to be able to play! As it is now I tend to do whatever dailies I have at that level (which isn't a lot at lower levels) and then just stick the character botting while I play another account. So, though I have no problem doing without, I can completely understand why people would want FF with hypers for this - I'm all in favour of playing the game to level the first time around, but they need to give us something to do if they want us to repeat it.

    That said, I work two jobs and only have a little time in the evenings to play, and I don't find levelling takes me that long. 102/103+ I could see as an issue but everyone I talk to at that level seems to only run PV now and not FF anyway, so I assume that works better. I don't really see why people would ragequit over this but I guess I never really understood why they wanted to skip everything before level 100 anyway. I find 100+ very boring; same dailies every day and nothing new.

    It would probably be nicer if they just locked FF to anyone under 85 or 75, but we all know they can't be bothered to actually revamp something at this point. It is just like someone earlier stated - they got sick of altering it back when a patch "fixed" it, so they are just giving up and leaving it this way. We should not be surprised by this, considering how things have gone over time. Their laziness is evident every time something small like a normal quest breaks and they just choose to let it stay broken, despite forum people giving the alteration to one line of code it would take to fix it which shows it can't be that time-consuming.

    Earning time I have no real problem with. You get way more than 8 hours if you aren't botting, just from the small breaks of repairing and turning in quests and such. I'd definitely prefer it to only affect auto-cultivation but they'll never bother to make that change.
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  • hypereccentrik
    hypereccentrik Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Unused instances to me is like when I go downtown and I see tacky, boarded buildings with now for lease signs on it.
    It has a very negative, low budget look to it. Restricting hypers in ff brings that look to this game. Last thing this game needs is that look.
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    hypereccentrik wrote: »
    Unused instances to me is like when I go downtown and I see tacky, boarded buildings with now for lease signs on it.
    It has a very negative, low budget look to it. Restricting hypers in ff brings that look to this game. Last thing this game needs is that look.

    They already went down that road when they killed Nirvana.

    But I would love it if they reverted FF back to the farming instance it was in the past.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    What use is there in making FC back into a farming instance? It's all about 100+ now so that gear is basically useless.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary
    Asterelle - Sanctuary Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    zionwarrior wrote: »
    Had to reply to this, as it is bugged but the easiest fix is not really that hard and forcing people to go pk for over 10 hours for a event just so people have to hide in town is not the best option for pve servers we are on a pve server to pk if we wish. I pk when I want and when I have the resources to do so. The event was originally meant to be pk enabled when your faction name went gold and you had event pk based such as the Mayhem in Morai event which is pk enabled for the duration of the event. Forcing people to pk based off that is not right. Also your claim to the veno instance being pk enabled is actually a confirmed bug they just have not bothered to fix it. Also it was confirmed that the pvp requirement for the convoy was also a error but they made no intent to fix it as they do not wish too at this time. Which granted is stupid but how it goes when they have higher priorities elsewhere so yea.b:surrender

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    There are workarounds for going into PK mode on pve servers without being forced to spend the 10 hours. I'm recommending the mobs requiring it because that is the easiest fix to mess and would be very quick to implement.
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    They already went down that road when they killed Nirvana.

    But I would love it if they reverted FF back to the farming instance it was in the past.

    Aye not to mention the killing off of rebirth delta/early level bhs, TT, etc. (Though aye TT, is more our doing than theirs, but we all have out grown that instance.)

    Granted change is needed to keep a game alive, but some changes do have the potential to cause complete and utter chaos/the games eventual demise, sadly no game is immune to that, and devs have no way of knowing just how upset people will become over a change, until after its implemented, sometimes the uproar can revert a change, others the change is here to stay.

    We have experienced both before, they have reverted a few of their 'changes'/have fixed a few 'bugs' that some of us made a big fuss about over the forums, other times they left the 'changes'/left the bugs for far too long (i.e: Goon Glitch), albeit some felt they mishandled the punishments of those who abused/used the bugs. Yet here it is way past its prime, still chugging along, one day it may very reach the very end of the track and have no where else to go, but until then it is still alive, and how much longer that 'track' is... is anyone's guess.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    What use is there in making FC back into a farming instance? It's all about 100+ now so that gear is basically useless.

    >Craft FF gear
    >Decompose it
    >Exchange for XP with the Martial Arts Master

    Well, it would be something, especially if the drop rates are decent
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  • Foxyas - Dreamweaver
    Foxyas - Dreamweaver Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    THANK YOU! The day power leveling would come to an end has finally arrived! The clouds have dispersed to the old times once more!
  • Galaxy_Girl - Dreamweaver
    Galaxy_Girl - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Please bring back the hypering in the fc. I agree with the other posts. The only way to make any new player even competative in this game is using hypers. 5 yrs ago i shunned my new faction members from power-lvling in the fc. A few years ago I gave up because everything pw was implementing, streamlining quests more exp was geared to getting player base up in lvl quickly. The only ppl that are QQ'ing they want hypers restricted in the fc are the ones who r 105/102/101 give or take. Thats because they dont want anyone catching up to them or getting as strong as them. But u ask them how they made 105/102/101 in the first place and most of them r hypocrates cuz they used hypering the fc to relvl back up. Most made 105 the first time cuz they exploited the fc goon glitch, and guess what? they used hypers. Now not everyone at 105 exploited glitches to lvl up, i understand that, but i guarantee one of the 3 times they got their toon to a high lvl it was because they hypered the fc. Take that away from the new player base and they will never b competative in this game. If u wanted to be somewhat fair u should have restricted fc hypering as u implemented 1-2 rebirth. Waiting until now to take away ppl access to hypering the fc gives so may ppl who did use that method of lvling up an unfair edge over everyone else. Those ppl who did hyper 105/102/101 makes the balance of power so out of wack (not like it wasnt heading that way to begin with). Now it will take new players longer to lvl up letting the old players get stronger and the new players struggle to catch up if they ever can, b4 they just give up and move on to a different game. PW wake up ur cash cow was letting everyone power lvl cuz at the high lvls is where ppl started dumping in the real life cash into this game for their r9 etc. Also 1 last thing what is the point of rebirthing if u cant get back up to ur high lvls again fast? All new expansions r solely geared for the high lvls. Also doing pv bh and primal daily's when ur stuck at 75 only gives u so much exp. I finished all of my quests the first time i lvled to 103 so i dont have much left to do in game. Also noone stands on the center platform in arch looking for low lvl bh squads much anymore making finding squads difficult.
  • Fail_BM - Raging Tide
    Fail_BM - Raging Tide Posts: 929 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Foxyas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    THANK YOU! The day power leveling would come to an end has finally arrived! The clouds have dispersed to the old times once more!

    I wonder if this will attract more new players.

    Only good thing I notice is how much people I see around lower lvl zones, but that might be because of the anniversary quest.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    No more power level in FC doesn't mean that there will be no more power level, people will just do it an other way, by PV, Oracles, auti-culti etc... so removing the hyper in FC would not avoid of getting unskilled level 100 players.

    Some people like to make a second character of the class they already play, so someone that want to make an alt of the same class might get discourage to need to waste time to level the character slowly while he already know how to play his class. For people saying ''why someone will make 2 chars of the same class?'' there's different reasons for that, it could be that the person want to try the other cultivation without switching, it could be someone that want to reroll on an other server, but want to keep playing the same class, could be someone that made a male char at first and then love his class, but want to play a female so make a female char of the same class etc...

    Yes it's true that now it's easier to level up for the low levels, but for the ''mid'' levels (let's say 80-100) there's nothing that have been done, the majority of the time the updates are for the low and high levels.

    I'm not saying that a LOT of people will leave if they don't put back the hyper in FC, but pretty there's still some that will quit over that, while no one will quit if they keep the hyper in FC.

    I have the feeling that if we don't fight more than that to get the China to put it back that the next time it could be the China forcing PWI to put all servers in PVP mode so the China doesn't to fix the stuff that doesn't work on the PVE servers.
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    This doesn't even affect me, for as much as I've been stating for the reinstatement. Know why? Because I abused the system.
    I now have multiple 100+ characters from 5 years worth of playing and FCing all with good gear that a lot of was bought for with botting. With all these characters, I can bypass the new earning time limit and bot 24/7 in multiple locations.

    The FC cutback and earning time doesn't even affect me. But I realize it puts me a massive advantage over new people who do not have the option to FC or bot. Not in one OP character, but in what I have and am able to do to stay ahead.
    I am completely unhindered to keep earning ridiculous amounts via botting and power level any additional alts using these 100+ to fund and help do it.

    These changes were too little, too late. People like myself and countless others have our advantage (which is even to a larger degree now) and can continue. The only people being punished and hindered are new people.
  • Mahidevran - Archosaur
    Mahidevran - Archosaur Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Galaxy_Girl - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Please bring back the hypering in the fc. I agree with the other posts. The only way to make any new player even competative in this game is using hypers. 5 yrs ago i shunned my new faction members from power-lvling in the fc. A few years ago I gave up because everything pw was implementing, streamlining quests more exp was geared to getting player base up in lvl quickly. The only ppl that are QQ'ing they want hypers restricted in the fc are the ones who r 105/102/101 give or take. Thats because they dont want anyone catching up to them or getting as strong as them. But u ask them how they made 105/102/101 in the first place and most of them r hypocrates cuz they used hypering the fc to relvl back up. Most made 105 the first time cuz they exploited the fc goon glitch, and guess what? they used hypers. Now not everyone at 105 exploited glitches to lvl up, i understand that, but i guarantee one of the 3 times they got their toon to a high lvl it was because they hypered the fc. Take that away from the new player base and they will never b competative in this game. If u wanted to be somewhat fair u should have restricted fc hypering as u implemented 1-2 rebirth. Waiting until now to take away ppl access to hypering the fc gives so may ppl who did use that method of lvling up an unfair edge over everyone else. Those ppl who did hyper 105/102/101 makes the balance of power so out of wack (not like it wasnt heading that way to begin with). Now it will take new players longer to lvl up letting the old players get stronger and the new players struggle to catch up if they ever can, b4 they just give up and move on to a different game. PW wake up ur cash cow was letting everyone power lvl cuz at the high lvls is where ppl started dumping in the real life cash into this game for their r9 etc. Also 1 last thing what is the point of rebirthing if u cant get back up to ur high lvls again fast? All new expansions r solely geared for the high lvls. Also doing pv bh and primal daily's when ur stuck at 75 only gives u so much exp. I finished all of my quests the first time i lvled to 103 so i dont have much left to do in game. Also noone stands on the center platform in arch looking for low lvl bh squads much anymore making finding squads difficult.

    This.

    Basically all the posters who don't want it back are the ones who abused it in the first place and now they don't want it back because they don't need it anymore and fc run creates "people who don't know how to play their toons". While the latter is somehow true, it's not an universal fact or all fc runners started hyper runs when they were level 1. Personally, I started running fc when I was 78 (86 atm) and it's because exp that bhs and quests gives are a joke. If bhs and quests gives more exp that worths running dangeorus dungeons and killing at least 60 mobs, then I'm ok with the removal of hypers.

    Not to mention we have to max our levels 3 times now. All the recent expansions were for endgame players, don't get me wrong, it's not something bad or unfair but as a player it's my aim to catch up other players. I don't wanna be an one-shot for rbs in nation wars. Everything that is fun is for endgame players so it's not a surprise that people wants to level fast.

    The most sane thing to do would be putting a level limit to fc runs. +75 would be fine imo. I mean if they don't learn how to play their toons until level 75, don't expect them to do in level 100.

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