Final Compensation - For All (12.12.13 UPDATED)
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ToyMaker_NOT - Raging Tide wrote: »So, entering the second week of December, we are STILL waiting for all those non-boring events that are scheduled. Any idea WHEN they will be scheduled.
I wouldn't put to much hope to those events, that can be just snowmen:) b:chucklePWI thinks they are blast of fun.0 -
Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »I wouldn't put to much hope to those events, that can be just snowmen:) b:chucklePWI thinks they are blast of fun.
Agreed. Don't expect too much, you'll be disappointed.
I have a feeling they'll throw the expansion at us in attempt to let people forget about the incident and that's what the events are going to be.. b:chuckle
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The name of the thread says it all " Final Compensation ", because for many it was the final straw . A good friend was banned because he was pissed about the orbs and raised a fuss on this thread . Dani got a year ban , while the abusers get two weeks .0
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SoOoOoOoOoOoO where is our compensation? I see they are working on some crappy card game and cant figure out how to compensate us?
that seems ******'s play ignoring us like that forgive me if my language is inapropriate but I just want to know why not figure out currwnt issues affecting the pwi community and then focus on updates and expansionsf:scared 0 -
I expected as much, or as little, when DoD posted about the December events. But dude, DoD your credibility is on the line here, grow a pair of ethical balls and be upfront with this community. If senior managements is saying too bad, suck it up then say it but blowing warm smoke up our a***s is not going to work anymore.0
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friend got banned for 2-3 weeks for sharing his account with his real wife (but they aint married in pwi)..dont ask me how xD idk..ask Gm- they funny
and then u can see ppl who probably got more than 10-30 orbs still playing0 -
Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
Except that its the chinese devs that need to do these changes. And seeing how fast they acted with the goon glitch... yea. You see the picture.
Well... the quest was pretty quickly made for the compensation for the rollback on archosaus server.
I'm not sure if they really need the chinese devs for this.0 -
FistBabe - Sanctuary wrote: »Well... the quest was pretty quickly made for the compensation for the rollback on archosaus server.
I'm not sure if they really need the chinese devs for this.
There's nothing hard in sending a few items and bundling them into a code. But if you wanted to prevent players from getting the items from the code they already used, you would have to tackle the quest that transforms the mail tickets into actual items. Eh.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »There's nothing hard in sending a few items and bundling them into a code. But if you wanted to prevent players from getting the items from the code they already used, you would have to tackle the quest that transforms the mail tickets into actual items. Eh.
Then let them do a search in the database.. and send the items to everyone that didn't use the code.. and everyone will be a lot happier xD0 -
FistBabe - Sanctuary wrote: »Then let them do a search in the database.. and send the items to everyone that didn't use the code.. and everyone will be a lot happier xD
Well I hope you're willingto give them a hand in their office. Cause I'm pretty sure they don't have the manpower for that. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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and then u can see ppl who probably got more than 10-30 orbs still playing
open a ticket and they will get ban.
DefenderOfaDeadGame put the thread name Final Compensation FOR ALL
still waiting...
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Funny.. why other games just put the freebies in the in-game mail instead of resorting to some code entry jibba jabba buggy click through marathon? Didn't even have to move my avatar to a mailbox to get a free mount in another game. Thanks for showing me the grass is greener elsewhere. b:thanksBe kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Funny.. why other games just put the freebies in the in-game mail instead of resorting to some code entry jibba jabba buggy click through marathon? Didn't even have to move my avatar to a mailbox to get a free mount in another game. Thanks for showing me the grass is greener elsewhere. b:thanks
I've literally tried half a dozen other MMOs (Even Pservers), and even gone back to an old favorite of mine... As much as PWI GMs, Devs, and Wanmei are a bunch of incompetent f*** ups while managment sees this game as nothing more than a printing press for money, this game is still something I enjoy.......f:strive[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »I've literally tried half a dozen other MMOs (Even Pservers), and even gone back to an old favorite of mine... As much as PWI GMs, Devs, and Wanmei are a bunch of incompetent f*** ups while managment sees this game as nothing more than a printing press for money, this game is still something I enjoy.......f:strive
As I read this I instantly thought of Loki's speech. Appears to apply to PWI playerbase.
"You were made to be ruled. It is the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation. In the end, you will always kneel0 -
ORBS pls !!0
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To put some fuel on this fire.... I heard from someone on Raging Tide that he submitted a ticket about not receiving the orbs and items and as an answer to that ticket they send him the items. I submitted a ticket right after i heard that, even tried to be nice. Guess what... some crappy automated reply again that they still work on it and will compensate all ARCHOSAUR players very soon! ONLY FKNG ARCHOSAUR!!!
Does PWE want to ruin things even more??? Send some people the items after everything and the rest NOTHING???
At the end of the answer of PWE they said to me: "Thank you for being such a loyal player of PWI!" You trying to **** me off with your sarcasm PWE??? I dare you to come say that in my face!0 -
TheDutchman - Raging Tide wrote: »To put some fuel on this fire.... I heard from someone on Raging Tide that he submitted a ticket about not receiving the orbs and items and as an answer to that ticket they send him the items. I submitted a ticket right after i heard that, even tried to be nice. Guess what... some crappy automated reply again that they still work on it and will compensate all ARCHOSAUR players very soon! ONLY FKNG ARCHOSAUR!!!
Does PWE want to ruin things even more??? Send some people the items after everything and the rest NOTHING???
At the end of the answer of PWE they said to me: "Thank you for being such a loyal player of PWI!" You trying to **** me off with your sarcasm PWE??? I dare you to come say that in my face!
Dont bother:) If you replay on that auto message your ticket will be deleted, same as mine and lot of others.0 -
TheDutchman - Raging Tide wrote: »To put some fuel on this fire.... I heard from someone on Raging Tide that he submitted a ticket about not receiving the orbs and items and as an answer to that ticket they send him the items. I submitted a ticket right after i heard that, even tried to be nice. Guess what... some crappy automated reply again that they still work on it and will compensate all ARCHOSAUR players very soon! ONLY FKNG ARCHOSAUR!!!
Does PWE want to ruin things even more??? Send some people the items after everything and the rest NOTHING???
At the end of the answer of PWE they said to me: "Thank you for being such a loyal player of PWI!" You trying to **** me off with your sarcasm PWE??? I dare you to come say that in my face!
the person might of spammed GMs with tickets..till they gave him stuff so he basically shuts up
when i got scammed i needed to send 10 tickets..to get my money back..all 9 or so they send same damn copy paste text that they cant return stuff ..so i guess if u get on their nervs they give u stuff ;D0 -
SakuLv - Dreamweaver wrote: »the person might of spammed GMs with tickets..till they gave him stuff so he basically shuts up
when i got scammed i needed to send 10 tickets..to get my money back..all 9 or so they send same damn copy paste text that they cant return stuff ..so i guess if u get on their nervs they give u stuff ;D
I think he did and it's what i'm gonna do now. I won't stop untill they really compensate all or they all went home with a nervous breakdown. PWE made this mess and gave us hardly any answers, now they have to suffer the consequences.0 -
ToyMaker_NOT - Raging Tide wrote: »So, entering the second week of December, we are STILL waiting for all those non-boring events that are scheduled. Any idea WHEN they will be scheduled.
The events will be as usual:
Assault on Arch
Snowmen
and maybe some kind of double drops during the week of Christmas
There has not been a "new" event of any kind in years. There are some MMO's (War for Guilds #2) that actually have special instances and events for each holiday/season. It's quite nice. Even certain sections of their maps are redecorated.b:bye0 -
Jesya - Lost City wrote: »The events will be as usual:
Assault on Arch
Snowmen
and maybe some kind of double drops during the week of Christmas
There has not been a "new" event of any kind in years. There are some MMO's (War for Guilds #2) that actually have special instances and events for each holiday/season. It's quite nice. Even certain sections of their maps are redecorated.
Don't forget the tiger event that's renamed into something christmas related.0 -
You ever thought that your "friend" was lying just to annoy you and if you bombard them they might just kick you? Cause the thought crossed my mind I'm sure it will cross other peoples minds b:laughTheDutchman - Raging Tide wrote: »I think he did and it's what i'm gonna do now. I won't stop untill they really compensate all or they all went home with a nervous breakdown. PWE made this mess and gave us hardly any answers, now they have to suffer the consequences.0 -
Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »I've literally tried half a dozen other MMOs (Even Pservers), and even gone back to an old favorite of mine... As much as PWI GMs, Devs, and Wanmei are a bunch of incompetent f*** ups while managment sees this game as nothing more than a printing press for money, this game is still something I enjoy.......f:strive
It's not even in any top ten lists that I've seen. Just watched MMOhut's top ten for Apr 26, 2013.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
TheDutchman - Raging Tide wrote: »To put some fuel on this fire.... I heard from someone on Raging Tide that he submitted a ticket about not receiving the orbs and items and as an answer to that ticket they send him the items. I submitted a ticket right after i heard that, even tried to be nice. Guess what... some crappy automated reply again that they still work on it and will compensate all ARCHOSAUR players very soon! ONLY FKNG ARCHOSAUR!!!
Does PWE want to ruin things even more??? Send some people the items after everything and the rest NOTHING???
At the end of the answer of PWE they said to me: "Thank you for being such a loyal player of PWI!" You trying to **** me off with your sarcasm PWE??? I dare you to come say that in my face!
TheDutchman,
I am sure that they are NOT being sarcastic, they must really like you!. I am sure I spent far more rl money on PWI over the course of my 5 or so years playing PWI than you or many other players have and they respond to my loyalty with deleted tickets.
Thank you for caring PWI.DefenderofDreams wrote: »UPDATE (11.27.13)
Response to a thread in which involves the compensation situation:
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UPDATE (11.25.13)
Questions and Answers
What is the punishment for players who blatantly abused the compensation code?
They will be banned.
I heard from Customer Service tickets that you are only banning players who are from Archosaur. Is this true?
No, I was confused about this when I heard about it. The customer service representatives were mis-informed on the punishment issue, and we're making sure everyone is now on the same page. We're banning players who abused the code no matter the server they are from.
What about the "targeted" compensation efforts for Archosaur only? Is that still happening?
Yes. We are getting everything set up now and verifying that it will go smoothly before we start sending in-game items to players on Archosaur. You can expect yours within the week.
Why is it Archosaur only now, and not all servers, as it was initially, when I missed my chance at the code?
First and foremost, Archosaur players were the ones we've wanted to make sure were compensated for the rollback, to the best of our ability. It was because of the rollback that we started focusing on a compensation campaign. We have 5x EXP going on for Archosaur, something we've never done before, as well as 2x EXP/SP/Drops AND Coin for all servers (also new).
Players on Archosaur now have the opportunity to gain more experience, spirit, drops, etc than they could have during the 3 days lost from the rollback, as these modifiers will be lasting into the next month. All servers were included in this decision because we wanted everyone to feel compensated for November's server connectivity issues as a whole.
(The initial compensation code for 5x HyperEXP Stones is now available for everyone: 3HTYJKE)
Following these initial actions, we still thought that for a rollback, our actions were not great enough. Many players lost refinement and thus power during the rollback, and so giving more exp/sp/drops/coins if you play wouldn't resolve their complaint.
Thus we came up with the compensation code that we all now are aware of.
Unfortunately, because of it's abuse we've had to cancel the cross-server compensation and refocus back on the initial goal of compensating Archosaur Rollback players.
Is there anything I can receive right now?
We've re-activated the initial compensation code that gives out 5x Hyper EXP Stones to players. It can be used once per account until NOVEMBER 30th
You can redeem it here once per account until NOVEMBER 30th : 3HTYJKE
There is no shouting with this one...
-DoD
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Mod edit because it appears people refuse to scroll down enough to read:
UPDATE:
We've disabled the code while we investigate the situation of code abuse.
^This is the reason why the code is saying it has expired when you try to enter it!
Hello Perfect World citizens!
We've finalized our compensation efforts for the past month of various issues that have affected many of you this holiday season.
-Redeem the following code to any character on any server for a collection of goodies including bound dragon orbs! The code is redeemable once per account.
6JMMAAB
Code ends on Sunday, November 24th @ 11:59 PM PST
We thank all of you who have stayed with us during these turbulent times, and please continue being awesome!
-PW Team
UPDATE:
We've disabled the code while we investigate the situation of code abuse.
UPDATE (11.22.13):
Here is what I was able to get:
- We will not be rolling back the servers.
- A highly focused and targeted Archosaur-specific compensation effort will be enacted.
- We will be punishing legitimate abusers of the compensation code who received far more than is possible from redemption page lag. We will be doing so in a detailed, focused manner which will make progress on punishments slower but more precise. So do not worry if you are one who got more orbs unintentionally. We do not want to penalize those who did not intend abuse of the system.
Regarding the level of abuse, from the data in front of us, it was not quite as widespread as many believe. It was mostly a few dozen or so who abused the code from means other than lag/timeouts. The perception of it being widespread is due to the unintentional in-game message spam distorting the situation, and nonfactual boasts in the forums or world chat.
This is the reason why there will not be a rollback.
I really hope PWI will try to resolve this issue and that these aren't just words on a page! The way they are handling it *obviously* is making myself and many many other players feel like dirt. Having your tickets about the issue summarily deleted with NO explanation doesn't help make you feel better about it either. I TRIED to enter the code during the time it was active but the server was overwhelmed and I decided to give PWI a break and try again later... WRONG DECISION!! I got burned for it. Lesson learned: being "nice" to PWI doesn't pay, and it is better to try to exploit the game as much as possible because no one really gets punished anyway and the honest people get burned by the GMs / game designers. Would very much like to receive 3 10* orbs or something similar to help me catch up with the players on Heaven's Tear server who received the orbs (many many of them multiple sets) even though they did not have toons on the Archosaur server.marvinhuddleston wrote: »The name of the thread says it all " Final Compensation ", because for many it was the final straw . A good friend was banned because he was pissed about the orbs and raised a fuss on this thread . Dani got a year ban , while the abusers get two weeks .
Should be changed to 'Final Shaft' or something similar b:cry0 -
DefenderofDreams wrote: »UPDATE (11.27.13)
Response to a thread in which involves the compensation situation:
_________________________________________
UPDATE (11.25.13)
Questions and Answers
What is the punishment for players who blatantly abused the compensation code?
They will be banned.
I heard from Customer Service tickets that you are only banning players who are from Archosaur. Is this true?
No, I was confused about this when I heard about it. The customer service representatives were mis-informed on the punishment issue, and we're making sure everyone is now on the same page. We're banning players who abused the code no matter the server they are from.
What about the "targeted" compensation efforts for Archosaur only? Is that still happening?
Yes. We are getting everything set up now and verifying that it will go smoothly before we start sending in-game items to players on Archosaur. You can expect yours within the week.
Why is it Archosaur only now, and not all servers, as it was initially, when I missed my chance at the code?
First and foremost, Archosaur players were the ones we've wanted to make sure were compensated for the rollback, to the best of our ability. It was because of the rollback that we started focusing on a compensation campaign. We have 5x EXP going on for Archosaur, something we've never done before, as well as 2x EXP/SP/Drops AND Coin for all servers (also new).
Players on Archosaur now have the opportunity to gain more experience, spirit, drops, etc than they could have during the 3 days lost from the rollback, as these modifiers will be lasting into the next month. All servers were included in this decision because we wanted everyone to feel compensated for November's server connectivity issues as a whole.
(The initial compensation code for 5x HyperEXP Stones is now available for everyone: 3HTYJKE)
Following these initial actions, we still thought that for a rollback, our actions were not great enough. Many players lost refinement and thus power during the rollback, and so giving more exp/sp/drops/coins if you play wouldn't resolve their complaint.
Thus we came up with the compensation code that we all now are aware of.
Unfortunately, because of it's abuse we've had to cancel the cross-server compensation and refocus back on the initial goal of compensating Archosaur Rollback players.
Is there anything I can receive right now?
We've re-activated the initial compensation code that gives out 5x Hyper EXP Stones to players. It can be used once per account until NOVEMBER 30th
You can redeem it here once per account until NOVEMBER 30th : 3HTYJKE
There is no shouting with this one...
-DoD
____________________________________________________________
Mod edit because it appears people refuse to scroll down enough to read:
UPDATE:
We've disabled the code while we investigate the situation of code abuse.
^This is the reason why the code is saying it has expired when you try to enter it!
Hello Perfect World citizens!
We've finalized our compensation efforts for the past month of various issues that have affected many of you this holiday season.
-Redeem the following code to any character on any server for a collection of goodies including bound dragon orbs! The code is redeemable once per account.
6JMMAAB
Code ends on Sunday, November 24th @ 11:59 PM PST
We thank all of you who have stayed with us during these turbulent times, and please continue being awesome!
-PW Team
UPDATE:
We've disabled the code while we investigate the situation of code abuse.
UPDATE (11.22.13):
Here is what I was able to get:
- We will not be rolling back the servers.
- A highly focused and targeted Archosaur-specific compensation effort will be enacted.
- We will be punishing legitimate abusers of the compensation code who received far more than is possible from redemption page lag. We will be doing so in a detailed, focused manner which will make progress on punishments slower but more precise. So do not worry if you are one who got more orbs unintentionally. We do not want to penalize those who did not intend abuse of the system.
Regarding the level of abuse, from the data in front of us, it was not quite as widespread as many believe. It was mostly a few dozen or so who abused the code from means other than lag/timeouts. The perception of it being widespread is due to the unintentional in-game message spam distorting the situation, and nonfactual boasts in the forums or world chat.
This is the reason why there will not be a rollback.
I'm still seeing players running around my server who used the glitch for 20+ orbs. So who did you guys really go after? People with 50+ orbs?
Just rollback every server or keep your word and punish those who abused this glitch , not just some. b:angry0 -
3 weeks ago there D.Orb Happened. They said Big things are coming in Dec. Soooo
You Lied to us on top of giving all the Abusers of the game a BIG reward for being Abusers. GJ PW Your really on top of things.
I gave you 3 weeks to fix this and you have done NOTHING not even one D.Orb for none abusers! This tells my you care more about the Scum of the Earth then the Good ppl!
Why Not Ban all the ppl who did not abuse the code!! Because they are starting to BAN themselves it looks like.
Not true, they have done something!
They deleted our tickets.Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »i heard a rumor today that this whole fiasco was just to get rid of non cash shoppers
I'm a cash shopper!
And its getting rid of me b:cry
I am still playing but maybe I should stop? b:surrenderDeceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »Well think about it this way. Yeah it doesnt seem fair first look. But heres the thing...
Say for instance, thats true, then i doubt its actually pple who spent a measly 20$. Even 50$ is questionable if i had to make such a 'choice' as a GM. If spenditure is actually a factor, then the odds are high that these high spending people have already gotten any serious characters they play, well past +10 refines. Not only that the characters themselves have to have bound gear which requires 1)cashshop item 2)ingame bound gear thats relatively high to begin with. Basically these are they guys that could have done it anyway without the glitch. They spent money, but they also save a bit this time.
Now then we have the other player, who spent virtually nothing and then abused the code... literally free stuff. (and no i dont include merchants here cause they are also self sufficient like shoppers)
I as a player, if i had to choose 1 of two evils, id rather have a cashshopper get a hold of those orbs. Why? Cause they actually help fund the company. (if u put it in a clean way) Its not to say non spenders are bad. But in a relatively simple way, spenders give back to the community at the least. They pay for the services, some of us take for granted free.
They did get punishment, but i think its also fair that the punishment for shoppers and freeloaders are not equal.
That's not a fair analysis. I am a cash shopper, have been playing for 5 years, and I don't have a single piece of equipment refined past +8
This thing hurt cash shoppers more than non cash shoppers because we who support the game and did not have an opportunity to abuse the 10* thing got set back relative to career non-cash shopper PWI exploitersIeroyJenkins - Archosaur wrote: »There is no sense in complaining about it any more. They had their reasons for what they did. If you don't like the result, vote with your wallet and take your money elsewhere. If you aren't a paying player there are tons of other F2P games out there.
I didn't use the code and lots of other people didn't get a chance, but I put most of the blame the fact that some people got tremendous numbers of orbs on PWI. They could have done what they did the second time around and mailed everyone who was online during the affected period 3 orbs or something similar. They could have added a 1-time-use quest to an npc that gave all the same rewards, then given out a code that awards you some item required to complete the quest (then getting 50 mails with the same item wouldn't be of any use).
I doubt they can *really* be certain who abused the code and who got tons of orbs because of redeem page "lag". If the page can't be trusted to send out rewards correctly, do you really think that it logged everything correctly?
I'm looking around for another MMORPG. Only thing keeping me here is not wanting to throw away the toons I've developed over the years of playing. Depending on how PWI resolves / not resolves this will determine if I continue to play / cashshop in the future.0 -
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or 'Santa gave me 700 orbs'Mweya - Heavens Tear wrote: »Should be changed to 'Final Shaft' or something similar b:cry
from that recent one out there b:chuckle
that is the saddest thing i have heard in a whileMweya - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's not a fair analysis. I am a cash shopper, have been playing for 5 years, and I don't have a single piece of equipment refined past +8
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Mweya - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's not a fair analysis. I am a cash shopper, have been playing for 5 years, and I don't have a single piece of equipment refined past +8
You are not a big c$er or you have no idea how to spend money.0 -
So I heard that if you like your +10 ocean orbs, then you get to KEEP your +10 Ocean Orbs . . . . .
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