Final Compensation - For All (12.12.13 UPDATED)

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  • ShadeParadox - Raging Tide
    ShadeParadox - Raging Tide Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So this TOTALLY made me think of PWEs current customer service practices.

    Well played.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2013
    bladesimage wrote: »
    Don't be so misleading, as an unpaid volunteer to be a mod you reap many in game bonuses. No one works for free even if your volunteering.

    Now on topic, do you have any info for us on this code/ orb fiasco?
    No... no we do not.

    Unless you consider having people who recognize us asking for information we can't provide, criticizing us in any event where we don't play perfectly, or expecting us to solve their problems as an in game bonus.
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  • _StrikerR - Archosaur
    _StrikerR - Archosaur Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So this TOTALLY made me think of PWEs current customer service practices.

    b:laughomg looks exactly like pwib:chuckle
  • SpectreBR - Dreamweaver
    SpectreBR - Dreamweaver Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    relic on dreamweaver getting banned for glitching anything? i dont believe!


    b:laugh
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  • Abonimus - Raging Tide
    Abonimus - Raging Tide Posts: 668 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    OPKossy wrote: »
    No... no we do not.

    Unless you consider having people who recognize us asking for information we can't provide, criticizing us in any event where we don't play perfectly, or expecting us to solve their problems as an in game bonus.

    No moderator in any game works for free.

    They either get fancy gifts, bonuses, free premium items, free monthly paymeny like gold or get payed in cash (WarGaming and some more big companys do that).

    Now idk what you get but i know u dont waste your time with so many overwhelming problems for free.
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  • TZoner - Raging Tide
    TZoner - Raging Tide Posts: 1,764 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I just want to know if the GMs can freaking acknowledge that there is a huge issue with the game atm and let us know they are gonna fix it already.
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  • Evangile - Dreamweaver
    Evangile - Dreamweaver Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    SpectreBR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    relic on dreamweaver getting banned for glitching anything? i dont believe!


    b:laugh
    I don't believe it either b:chuckle
    So far noone in there got banned as far as I know b:shocked
    Oh not quite correct, 1 person did ;o
    Time to nut up, or shut up. -Tallahasse b:shocked
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Abonimus - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No moderator in any game works for free.

    They either get fancy gifts, bonuses, free premium items, free monthly paymeny like gold or get payed in cash (WarGaming and some more big companys do that).

    Now idk what you get but i know u dont waste your time with so many overwhelming problems for free.

    The only thing the mods get that regular players don't is an open line of communication to the GMs. Just because you aren't someone who would ever be willing to donate their time helping others without pay doesn't mean that everyone is.

    I volunteered my time too, in a different area than moderation, but in the end I found it too frustrating dealing with fickleness of the company and the lack of communication, and gave up entirely after Val left. I have a huge amount of respect for the mods for continuing to deal with the players and company on a daily basis when they are treated so poorly.
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  • Dragon_Fist_ - Dreamweaver
    Dragon_Fist_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So this TOTALLY made me think of PWEs current customer service practices.

    LOLb:laugh
  • ToyMaker_NOT - Raging Tide
    ToyMaker_NOT - Raging Tide Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    APATHY Gotta love it.
  • opkossy
    opkossy Posts: 11,177 Community Moderator
    edited December 2013
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The only thing the mods get that regular players don't is an open line of communication to the GMs. Just because you aren't someone who would ever be willing to donate their time helping others without pay doesn't mean that everyone is.

    I volunteered my time too, in a different area than moderation, but in the end I found it too frustrating dealing with fickleness of the company and the lack of communication, and gave up entirely after Val left. I have a huge amount of respect for the mods for continuing to deal with the players and company on a daily basis when they are treated so poorly.

    Thank you, Anna.

    Makes me really miss Val, all things considered.
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  • Zoldi - Morai
    Zoldi - Morai Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    By the way, since this topic is still active, wouldn't it be better to edit its title ?
    I mean... some people (including me and probably most of european players b:surrender) didn't get any compensation at all, so always seeing that makes me quite nervous b:sad
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  • bladesimage
    bladesimage Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The only thing the mods get that regular players don't is an open line of communication to the GMs. Just because you aren't someone who would ever be willing to donate their time helping others without pay doesn't mean that everyone is.

    I volunteered my time too, in a different area than moderation, but in the end I found it too frustrating dealing with fickleness of the company and the lack of communication, and gave up entirely after Val left. I have a huge amount of respect for the mods for continuing to deal with the players and company on a daily basis when they are treated so poorly.

    Well then, pwi is the exception to the rule.

    And you said "open line of communication to the GMs" which raises questions in itself.

    I'm done playing devils advocate though. b:bye
  • FragiIe - Dreamweaver
    FragiIe - Dreamweaver Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bladesimage wrote: »
    Well then, pwi is the exception to the rule.

    And you said "open line of communication to the GMs" which raises questions in itself.

    I'm done playing devils advocate though. b:bye


    I don't know of any game that compensates the forum mods, it's purely volunteer! I've been gaming since mid 90's and not seen a single game that pays the forum mods!
  • marvinhuddleston
    marvinhuddleston Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    No one is going to be punished for this abuse and as for any compensation b:laugh it's never going to happen either . PWI has always allowed the abusers to go unpunished so you may as well just go with it and remember " Its not cheating , it's creative glitching ".
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,880 Community Moderator
    edited December 2013
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The only thing the mods get that regular players don't is an open line of communication to the GMs. Just because you aren't someone who would ever be willing to donate their time helping others without pay doesn't mean that everyone is.

    I volunteered my time too, in a different area than moderation, but in the end I found it too frustrating dealing with fickleness of the company and the lack of communication, and gave up entirely after Val left. I have a huge amount of respect for the mods for continuing to deal with the players and company on a daily basis when they are treated so poorly.

    Val was working Hard to keep this game as it was and support it going into the future... Sadly when he left the PWI side took a big downhill dive and is still going that way in many areas. A few people are trying hard to keep supporting this.

    Sadly for now i find my time would be put to better use on something else rather than PWE who dont seam to want to do the right thing or listen to its customers. No customers = no Buisness.

    Good Luck PWE your gonna need it.
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  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Is it over- If someone hasn't been banned yet it's not gonna happen?
  • SakuLv - Dreamweaver
    SakuLv - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,400 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    MagicEmpress - Lost City wrote: »
    Is it over- If someone hasn't been banned yet it's not gonna happen?

    only rumors

    getting 2 week ban for 30 orbs

    other getting 1 year ban for 30 orbs

    then perma ban for 50 orbs
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  • astaroth6113
    astaroth6113 Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    And i expected u did not banned Cash players... so, we got a roll back, a "compensation" that goes wrong (sadly i think is fault of your workers and not us... u always could make that code for just one time... but u did it wrong idk why).... and u obviously u wont do anything about those players who use to spend real money on game....



    YOU GUYS REALLY MAKES ME SICK... ALL OF U ARE JUST THIEVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    why dont you just accept your ineffectiveness and leave us play the game in peace
  • Verenor - Morai
    Verenor - Morai Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Still seeing people with all abused orbs online every day since the bug happened. Would be nice from the GM's to give some kind of estimate on when the measures against the abusers will be taken.
    I'm not (yet) judging their choice of banning people for a periodic time. It's possible and more than likely that if they will be banning the abuser they will remove all the made refinements and roll the individual back to a previous state. Individual rollback + ban seems a good punishment imo: they don't gain anything from the abuse, and are set back to what they were before abusing along with a periodic punishment.
    Only banning and not removing the abused gains seems an impossible measurement as a company to let that slip.
    But as I said, that's just my idea and still awaiting for PWI to undertake action as NW and other events are worse and people are putting +10 refinement requirements more and more.

    Oh and ofcourse, give the same compensation-code to the people that didn't get it thanks to the abusers and code-disabling. It's the least they could do after getting their *** handed to them in all sorts of PVP related events, and missing out on possibly their one shot at a sure demon/sage event card with DQ system going down.
  • Grindata_ - Heavens Tear
    Grindata_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    theres really no point in banning them now since all the money they farmed while not being banned was probably sent to an alt account so they could just start over again with no loss.
  • millycole
    millycole Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    They alrdy start banning people my pwi gf got bann for FREAKING 1year and i did abuce the orb my self but becuz of i am a Cashshopper i didnt geth bann for FU>CK You socall PWI.
    THIS GAME IS JUST HERE TO EAT YOUR MONEY I WIL NEVER USE REAL LIFE MONEY AGIAN THIS GAME IS A JOKE AND IT WAS NOT OURE FAULT FOR YOUR MISTAKE. b:victory
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  • Jojoushi - Sanctuary
    Jojoushi - Sanctuary Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    marvinhuddleston wrote: »
    No one is going to be punished for this abuse and as for any compensation b:laugh it's never going to happen either . PWI has always allowed the abusers to go unpunished so you may as well just go with it and remember " Its not cheating , it's creative glitching ".

    A few game friends sent me an FB message saying they got a year's ban, while others got 2 weeks...I have no idea the tier of severity involved but the only IRL friend I have that plays PWI also got a year's ban as well...

    ..I missed out entirely on the glitch, I was at the gym while this happened b:laugh
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  • airman05
    airman05 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Uhmm,. yeah that dragon orb issue should eb handled quick no matter if they got 1 extra orb or 30, for what i have seen in recent days people are still recieving them by the masses yet nothing is happening to them. All the arguements that have risen from them the ppl gettin large numbers of them and seeing no consequences for their actions. GM's if you truly keep ur word leave non not temperarily banned but no matter if they recieved 1 extra orb they need to learn that abusing the game has strong and adament consequences. Ya say in december there wil be even better rewards or thigns to come; the ppl that abused November are here in December enjoying the lack of real action you are suppose to be taking. let all of them know they arent safe and they need beware!! NOW!!
  • FragiIe - Dreamweaver
    FragiIe - Dreamweaver Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I've moved on myself in search of better gaming...enough is enough and too much is nasty and I'm tired of nasty!
  • Seraphinchen - Harshlands
    Seraphinchen - Harshlands Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    DefenderofDreams can u pls say if they still working on fix the problem and is there any chance that all the ppl that didnt get anything will get the reward too? coz if there is no update about the situation, it rly seems like nothing happens and ppl get more and more mad b:surrender
  • Zenzoa - Sanctuary
    Zenzoa - Sanctuary Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Seraphinchen - Harshlands wrote: »
    DefenderofDreams can u pls say if they still working on fix the problem and is there any chance that all the ppl that didnt get anything will get the reward too? coz if there is no update about the situation, it rly seems like nothing happens and ppl get more and more mad b:surrender

    Trust me.. they don't care at all about all the ppl that didn't get anything.
    If they did, they would atleast post an update about this even if they still have no further info.
    But instead they just ignore all of us and hope ppl will just forget about this.
  • swapneelk
    swapneelk Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I dont blame pwi for letting its cashshopper ban less or anything cause atleast they pay lol anyways i am just waiting for -removed- to work on my pc once its done i wont play pwi ........x.x
  • Nature_God - Sanctuary
    Nature_God - Sanctuary Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Have you people forgotten already that game companies are about business. Stop whining about your money. I don't care and they don't care, deal with it. All game companies are pure business. Don't think that there are any game that wouldn't care about money.
  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I didn't benefit from the glitch. I want nothing added to my account in the way of compensation.

    I can't possibly get what I want out of this situation. Y'see I worked my butt off to get my gear to +10 and get some of the other advantages of hard work and farming. Now I see a number of people whom I used to be able to readily kill, 1-on-1, who have surpassed me with a few keystrokes. That discourages me.

    Since the glitch, I've still been building my toon but I find myself skipping the work a lot more often. Not as a protest. Just because I don't have confidence that I'll get to enjoy the fruits of my labor. I'll +12 everything, get full of JoSD and Deity Stones, finish upgrading the last few pieces, just in time for someone to exploit a glitch and pass me again, sit out for a few weeks ban, then dominate me with their unearned power.

    I still enjoy the game, but I've lost some of the competitive passion. There are too many usurpers who can kill me with their glitch-borne gear.

    If PWI can/will roll back their ill-gotten advantages (e.g. roll back the refines) then I'm satisfied. I suspect that the process is too complicated and too much bother so the non-cheaters must quit or suffer.
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