Final Compensation - For All (12.12.13 UPDATED)
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Now that I have fixed a portion of your post, I shall ban you for improper word use!
Though really, they do have a point. People really shouldn't call someone else an idiot if their own posts show less intelligence than whomever they've chosen to call an idiot... and in a case like this, spelling and grammar count towards that!
No no punctualityb:laugh was meant to be in place dear!0 -
marlbstrike wrote: »you can come and comment on someone's stupidity, but not give us any information on what is going on over the whole orb situation? you think the game and servers are dying now? HA! just wait, so many have been and are looking for another game to play as i type this. GL trying to make up for that kind of revenue then. and the gm's should be careful how they handle the whole situation, before someone sues them for not standing by their own "contract" (tos) . breech of contract is breech of contract , doesn't matter if its the player or the company . those guidelines were put there not only to protect the company but players as well. i'm sure a viral story on how unfair pwi treats its loyal rule abiding players would not be friendly to the bottom line now would it?
1) Forum moderators are players, same as you. Except, we have extra unpaid responsibilities when we visit the forums. We cannot update you on the situation because they don't discuss bans with us. We don't work at pwe.
2)What contract do you think they breached by not giving you free stuff? That they have to give everyone something every time they give some people something. Doesn't say that anywhere in their contracts. This situation totally sucks but the main thing you can do is vote with your wallet. You can't sue them because they gave a coupon to some people, and not to others. Well I mean technically you could but good luck even getting it into trial.![:\](https://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
gakekasai18 wrote: »No no punctualityb:laugh was meant to be in place dear!
I'm late! I'm late for a very important date!0 -
Which makes threatening to ban for it all the more hilarious! b:chucklegakekasai18 wrote: »No no punctualityb:laugh was meant to be in place dear!
And what new information am I, an unpaid volunteer player that cleans up the PWI forums on my free time, supposed to be able to tell you that you couldn't figure out on your own from reading what's already in the thread?marlbstrike wrote: »you can come and comment on someone's stupidity, but not give us any information on what is going on over the whole orb situation? you think the game and servers are dying now? HA! just wait, so many have been and are looking for another game to play as i type this. GL trying to make up for that kind of revenue then. and the gm's should be careful how they handle the whole situation, before someone sues them for not standing by their own "contract" (tos) . breech of contract is breech of contract , doesn't matter if its the player or the company . those guidelines were put there not only to protect the company but players as well. i'm sure a viral story on how unfair pwi treats its loyal rule abiding players would not be friendly to the bottom line now would it?
You want to bring up the ToS? Fine.
According to the ToS, that account you're posting on right now? Not your property. Belongs to PWE and they can do whatever they feel like with it at any point in time regardless of your consent. Oh and the whole "loyal rule abiding players" bit? Doesn't matter. They can ban you at any time for any reason or no reason at all including deciding they didn't like the twenty-seventh word in your post.
Just because they can do these things you've explicitly given them permission to do doesn't mean they should or will do them. Also, they've already started giving out bans. The very first post says that the ban length will vary based on the abuse... however we're not privy to any more information than that and part of my job I don't get paid for involves deleting posts from the many people who have copy/pasted their e-mails showcasing their various ban lengths. So while many in this thread are guessing loosely based on what they've heard, the only ones with the full information are... the folks at PWE. If they choose to give us a further update (which would be nice), great! If not... that's their decision.
And if your complaint is about not getting in on the free gift, DoD has already stated that if all goes well we'll see plenty of stuff within this month. He hasn't expanded upon that, but I'm sure he will if/when he gets the opportunity.(Insert fancy image here)
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marlbstrike wrote: »before someone sues them for not standing by their own "contract" (tos) . breech of contract is breech of contract , doesn't matter if its the player or the company . those guidelines were put there not only to protect the company but players as well. i'm sure a viral story on how unfair pwi treats its loyal rule abiding players would not be friendly to the bottom line now would it?
Could you please explain to us all how some players not getting free stuff is a breach of the Terms of Service?
A few pointers:
1. The code was free to all. No-one paid, logged on to an alternative site or gave up any information to be used at a later time.
2. Was it a bungled code, improperly designed and abused repeatedly knowingly or otherwise? Absolutely. Are the Developers, not GM's or Forum Moderators responsible? Absolutely again; poor programming of code contributed to probably the biggest mistake this game has seen and as you have correctly stated it has caused PWE to lose a potentially vast amount of revenue, potentially because we don't know if people would have charged. Did they try to recover this potential loss? Yes. Staggering really what with them being a company tying to make a profit.
3. No need for a viral 'story', anyone can read the facts on this forum. In fact if you did you'd be giving the company free publicity and as the saying goes there is no such thing as bad publicity.
4. The GM's aren't monitoring this, the Developers / Programmers / Boardroom are, I've used multiple options as I truly don't know who makes the final decision but I'm sure it isn't the Game Moderators.
5. Kossy is a player like you and me, this has been stated on this thread alone multiple times and she moderates the forums for free with no control over the game.
And breathe.....b:chuckle0 -
no i was not posting about not getting free stuff at all, at this point i don't care. its more hassle than it is really worth. i am speaking of the parts of tos that if break this rule or that rule is 3 day , perma ban, etc . i am tired of people violating the rules of the game and making it harder for yes the ones who do not break the rules to enjoy the game itself because of their ill gotten gains. and yet they are not properly disciplines for those actions .0
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marlbstrike wrote: »no i was not posting about not getting free stuff at all, at this point i don't care. its more hassle than it is really worth. i am speaking of the parts of tos that if break this rule or that rule is 3 day , perma ban, etc . i am tired of people violating the rules of the game and making it harder for yes the ones who do not break the rules to enjoy the game itself because of their ill gotten gains. and yet they are not properly disciplines for those actions .
The words "are subject to" mean that it can happen. Not that it will happen. Remember, this is the same ToS that says:
And I certainly don't think you have an issue with the fact that even though the ToS says that they can, PWE doesn't go around throwing darts at a board and banning accounts at random for the lulz.Please note that regardless of any notice, PWE reserves the right to discontinue the Service or to terminate or suspend your account at any time in its sole discretion for any reason, or for no reason.
As for the bans, again, we don't normally get full details on that because that's PWI's own policy. This is something DoD has stated will take time and will be done on a case-by-case basis. As far as we know, the two weeks getting thrown around over here is a minimum blanket for all abusers and they'll start increasing severity for those who abused more and more until reaching permabans. However, we don't know. Only PWE does. And as anyone posting an e-mail with those details would be violating forum rules and have their post deleted... we're not going to find out for sure unless you know someone who was banned and they show you the e-mail outside of the forums.(Insert fancy image here)0 -
To be honest banning any of them is pointless if they don't remove the orbs and refines, 2 week ban they just play on an alt for 2 weeks no biggie! The game took a hard hit this time around...if ya don't believe me just watch wc! Mostly all ya got now is immature kids bragging about how big their tiny wiener is or how often they get laidb:chuckle I just started really enjoying the game once I finally got a toon to 100(only took 4 years lol) and now this ****!0
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Sorry but the vowels from your previous posting have been removed due to client instability. b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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FragiIe - Dreamweaver wrote: »To be honest banning any of them is pointless if they don't remove the orbs and refines, 2 week ban they just play on an alt for 2 weeks no biggie! The game took a hard hit this time around...if ya don't believe me just watch wc! Mostly all ya got now is immature kids bragging about how big their tiny wiener is or how often they get laidb:chuckle I just started really enjoying the game once I finally got a toon to 100(only took 4 years lol) and now this ****!
I tend to keep world chat off on our server...mainly because of this. The world chats are so offensive. It would be awesome if we had someone patrolling the world chat system, without having to actually be inside the game![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I upload a vid of a rank 9 3rd cast seeker fight, 90 views.
I upload a vid of me in my boxers, 750 views.
I know what the PWI community wants.
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its some days now and there is no update about what they gona do....
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Why was the word balls said over 168K times??[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I upload a vid of a rank 9 3rd cast seeker fight, 90 views.
I upload a vid of me in my boxers, 750 views.
I know what the PWI community wants.
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FlyRanger - Dreamweaver wrote: »Why was the word balls said over 168K times??
One spammer repeated it 168K times at one post (one page long) and those post had not been deleted.0 -
What that guy said.
Lucky guy got a time when the mods weren't on and it got buried under other pages pretty fast.
... but then we found it anyway as well as a post that quoted the entire thing. So now they're not here anymore.(Insert fancy image here)0 -
LostPoet - Dreamweaver wrote: »Nope. But too many chargebacks to a business, will get their transactions investigated and possibly locked from further transactions. Can get shut down from Visa or other card and even paypal. Which would essentially close the business or suspend it for some time.
(I work for a payment company).b:chuckle
There was a chargeback of over $100,000 before b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I upload a vid of a rank 9 3rd cast seeker fight, 90 views.
I upload a vid of me in my boxers, 750 views.
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FlyRanger - Dreamweaver wrote: »I tend to keep world chat off on our server...mainly because of this. The world chats are so offensive. It would be awesome if we had someone patrolling the world chat system, without having to actually be inside the game!
Indeed we need more people patrolling the game in general, it'd get you perma-banned multiple times for using accounts that don't belong to you DS b:byeSoon™
Well, maybe later, semi-retired.0 -
DEMHEALSMAN - Dreamweaver wrote: »Indeed we need more people patrolling the game in general, it'd get you perma-banned multiple times for using accounts that don't belong to you DS b:bye
Stop harassing me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I upload a vid of a rank 9 3rd cast seeker fight, 90 views.
I upload a vid of me in my boxers, 750 views.
I know what the PWI community wants.
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Evangile - Dreamweaver wrote: »Butthurt? Why would I be butthurt? xD I care about fun TW's and this one was fun. b:chuckle You're from Dynasty, Eru is from Relic, so I kind of guessed you hated on Eru cause he's from Relic. b:cute
Eru did nothing wrong, there were about 3 people in Relic that had more then 6 orbs. So we've got nothing to worry either. Have fun in game and see you next TW b:dirty
Dont know her, didn't know she is in Relic, idc she is in Relic, and also I don't hate anyone. Only thing that annoys me is her persisting defending on code abusers.0 -
seems like this thread is getting off topic real fast. Besides no answers, any one else notice mirth packs were STILL not lowered to advertised price and no mention of the travelers packs either at another moronic price? token prices going up again0
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Following this thread has become redundant. I mean now you guys are QQing about each others grammar and ToS rather than complaining about the one real problem. People are getting banned for 2 weeks for that orb code abuse...then they get to come back and **** us with their unfairly refined gear. Not to mention there are people i know of that were banned and submit a ticket QQing or something and are ALREADY back...mainly probably because they are HUGE CSers. This game has disappointed me for the last time. If the GMs dont fix this **** up and do something drastic soon people are gonna just quit more and more. The next expansion itself is most likely going to ruin the PvP aspect for players that arent major CSers as is. Way to go PWE you royally ruined the game. MORONSb:angry[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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seems like this thread is getting off topic real fast. Besides no answers, any one else notice mirth packs were STILL not lowered to advertised price and no mention of the travelers packs either at another moronic price? token prices going up again
DoD responded to that, days ago, saying that the Mirth Packs were not supposed to have been listed as being on sale. At that time, he changed the page saying they were. They haven't been listed as being on sale for a while now. So no, the price is not going to change on them, any time soon.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Relic is getting tons of ppl banned from DW server, wonder if there is any actually perma
since few had more than 30 orbs0 -
darknes051 wrote: »Relic is getting tons of ppl banned from DW server, wonder if there is any actually perma
since few had more than 30 orbs
lolololololololb:chuckleBahamas represent0 -
darknes051 wrote: »Relic is getting tons of ppl banned from DW server, wonder if there is any actually perma
since few had more than 30 orbs
I only heard about Drac ..something
heard he had 30 something orbs and 2 weeks ban
other say 50..but if its true - not fair just 2 weeks ban then..should be perma ban0 -
So not reading through almost 5500 posts to see if this has been mentioned but WHY do I still see red spam 5-6 times a day people getting 3x 10* orbs? >.<
Not that I really care but it's annoying to know what most of us, including I, missed out on and still seeing others reaping the benefit.
Because they now know it is safe to use the spammed codes since the only punishment is a 2 week ban and come back fully refined.0 -
b4 this orb thing happened i was gona throw another 400$ on this game to finish my r9 barb but guess thats not gona happen since i struggle getting +5/6 even with the casual cashshopping i used to do guess ill spend that money else where now.0
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TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »Following this thread has become redundant.
Get on skype than, I'm bored.0 -
Which makes threatening to ban for it all the more hilarious! b:chuckle
And what new information am I, an unpaid volunteer player that cleans up the PWI forums on my free time, supposed to be able to tell you that you couldn't figure out on your own from reading what's already in the thread?
You want to bring up the ToS? Fine.
According to the ToS, that account you're posting on right now? Not your property. Belongs to PWE and they can do whatever they feel like with it at any point in time regardless of your consent. Oh and the whole "loyal rule abiding players" bit? Doesn't matter. They can ban you at any time for any reason or no reason at all including deciding they didn't like the twenty-seventh word in your post.
Just because they can do these things you've explicitly given them permission to do doesn't mean they should or will do them. Also, they've already started giving out bans. The very first post says that the ban length will vary based on the abuse... however we're not privy to any more information than that and part of my job I don't get paid for involves deleting posts from the many people who have copy/pasted their e-mails showcasing their various ban lengths. So while many in this thread are guessing loosely based on what they've heard, the only ones with the full information are... the folks at PWE. If they choose to give us a further update (which would be nice), great! If not... that's their decision.
And if your complaint is about not getting in on the free gift, DoD has already stated that if all goes well we'll see plenty of stuff within this month. He hasn't expanded upon that, but I'm sure he will if/when he gets the opportunity.
Don't be so misleading, as an unpaid volunteer to be a mod you reap many in game bonuses. No one works for free even if your volunteering.
Now on topic, do you have any info for us on this code/ orb fiasco?0 -
darknes051 wrote: »Relic is getting tons of ppl banned from DW server, wonder if there is any actually perma
since few had more than 30 orbs
I think this more of a case of wishful thinking b:laugh0 -
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