Final Compensation - For All (12.12.13 UPDATED)
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Okay, now that I can finally log in pwi website without getting a message that's saying my IP got banned for failing to log too many times, i can say what i wanna say.
Its true some people abused when they found out they could get more orbs. It does suck some people got tons of obs, while others couldnt even get any. But the thing is, no one should get punished for aan error that occured in the reward system. Just like someone mentioned about the lamers who used "dragon glitch" to lvl super fast, none of them got their lvl reset and we didnt get a 6 months rollback on all servers to fix that. So why should we get a rollback now and lose what we did since last maintenance just because some people abused a code that wouldnt be abused if it was programmed properly?
That code was a present, a compensation for game flaws lately, and now it would turn into more rollbacks and fails from PWI. Get real. Those who got tons of orbs, grats, I guess. Most people asking for a rollback are those who didnt get the orbs. And they are pissed they didnt, and they want it to be "fair" by having no one getting them at all. But forget the orbs and server economy for a moment. What about those who lvled, opened packs, got good stuff, sold things, achieved something during that period you guys want to be "erased"?
People will always try to abuse bugs or cheat when they can. So rather than punish everyone for a few losers, just make the reward system more reliable. Now whats done is done, so lets move on and unblock the damn options on website; we cant even get blessings or redeem our DQ points anymore -.-0 -
This has caused a lot of hard feelings among the players and against PWI. A lot of my friends say they will quit the game if there is not a rollback.0
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Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »I am Thrieya, and I believe we have not met before because we play on completely different servers due to a completely arbitrary choice of servers I made several years ago, that I don't really regret, though.
And I am Silver, tho must call me Siv. b:surrender I was told to join Archo and im just too lazy to branch out to other servers duo to trying to better my kitty.Logic = Against ToS. It's the answer to all "Wtf..." Moments during normal gameplay with other players.0 -
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IF they now would actually do a rollback of servers i hope its before nw. Do not wanna go up 5am for nw if they then later rollback servers.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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SilverMayhem - Archosaur wrote: »Nope, im dismissing that what you'd like them to do has more of a drastic effect on players that are okay with what happened and dont care then you think. You are thinking about you, maybe 2-3 others that dont like whats happened.
I find so many flaws in this one little statement have you not read any other threads or the countless number of posts supporting some kind of action? the number of unsatisfied people is astounding but you sit there and try to say im basing what i want done purely by MY wants or maybe the wants of a couple people? maybe you should look around and see how many other people clearly want something done before you make silly statements like that. Or go look at the poll whose numbers keep rising and rising. The odds are against your statement badly[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
SweetieBot - Lothranis wrote: »I would hug you if I could.
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You are an idiot. Refinements also add more attack/defense and not just HP meaning the game is unbalanced for those players who got to abuse everything. During rebirths we will see level 60s walking around with +12 armor sets why? Because of this abuse.
Atk on Weapon and... hp on armor... Do not insult my intelligence when you clearly don't understand what effects dragon orbs have on gear. Only my close friends may do that, good sir Ty for your time.
P.S. you were gonna see lvl 60s walking around with +12 armor anyways, why. Because there was +12s before this Code come out >.>Logic = Against ToS. It's the answer to all "Wtf..." Moments during normal gameplay with other players.0 -
TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »You are reading my post out of context. If you actually read it and didnt skim thru it it makes sense. Now you are just trying to find more reasons to trash talk me. The fact of the matter is is that i am merely trying to show you how much of a jerk you are clearly being on forums. Rather than only focusing on what you can trash about others opinions why not offer you own or maybe even state when someone makes a good point. It is sad that you can only respond to another person post with hate and prejudice
Well, let's see, if you just wanted to show me how much of a jerk I was being, why did you have to write entire paragraphs to do so? And honestly? I've been stating my opinions all along. Looks pretty obvious to me. Your constant, repetitive insistence that "There is NO WAY they are doing NOTHING about this" is merely getting boring, which is the same thing you essentially said about my posts.
It's sad that you can only respond to other people by dismissing their opinions just because they don't agree with you.0 -
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The roll back should have started at the maintenance time but that time is long gone so even though all of this crying I say.......NO ROLLBACK .
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SilverMayhem - Archosaur wrote: »Atk on Weapon and... hp on armor... Do not insult my intelligence when you clearly don't understand what effects dragon orbs have on gear. Only my close friends may do that, good sir Ty for your time.
P.S. you were gonna see lvl 60s walking around with +12 armor anyways, why. Because there was +12s before this Code come out >.>
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Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »Well, let's see, if you just wanted to show me how much of a jerk I was being, why did you have to write entire paragraphs to do so? And honestly? I've been stating my opinions all along. Looks pretty obvious to me. Your constant, repetitive insistence that "There is NO WAY they are doing NOTHING about this" is merely getting boring, which is the same thing you essentially said about my posts.
It's sad that you can only respond to other people by dismissing their opinions just because they don't agree with you.
Actually i never dismissed your personal opinion i merely asked you to stop re hashing the same arguments with other people. So clearly u just turned your attention to me which is fine i dont mind. The fact that you are bored by my CONSTANT statement is funny because it is merely a statement. If you are bored by it why read it?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hehe, I slept similar, 6 to 11am here. I ended up playing Lost to fall asleep (the menus usually have nice water lapping sounds). Insomnia sucks. Good luck with whatever happens with this code issue. Hope you don't lose anything important if they decide to rollback again.0
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I wonder when we should expect a comment from PWE. It's typical that they only have staff on the forums once a week to post about maintenance, so I'm guessing we probably won't get a response to this topic until next tuesday. Time will tell, I guess.I host an Ecatomb mirror here: ecatomb.gdevtalk.net
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TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »I find so many flaws in this one little statement have you not read any other threads or the countless number of posts supporting some kind of action? the number of unsatisfied people is astounding but you sit there and try to say im basing what i want done purely by MY wants or maybe the wants of a couple people? maybe you should look around and see how many other people clearly want something done before you make silly statements like that. Or go look at the poll whose numbers keep rising and rising. The odds are against your statement badly
"number of unsatisfied people" are the ones that didn't get anything do to not being online and the site crashing.
Hey let them do something about it, but everyone rushing to a only option is a roll back. Im inclined to believe that half of the population probably didn't even know what a Roll back is/was until it happened. Do you know what needs to take place in order to do a roll back? A roll back is a last resort in order to fix a bug ingame. Coding that has been corrupted you, Roll Back (Reboot, Restart, Relog, what ever term you want to choice) in order to get to a stable point in the game. So why not look for a different solution.
I only stated that it would be funny if they did nothing at all.Logic = Against ToS. It's the answer to all "Wtf..." Moments during normal gameplay with other players.0 -
they only have 2 options send out many 6mtn bans for the people abusing the code system or ROLL Back all servers0
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TZoner - Raging Tide wrote: »Actually i never dismissed your personal opinion i merely asked you to stop re hashing the same arguments with other people. So clearly u just turned your attention to me which is fine i dont mind. The fact that you are bored by my CONSTANT statement is funny because it is merely a statement. If you are bored by it why read it?
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a BREAKTHROUGH! 1 post that doesn't involve the phrase "lots of people are mad about this not just me!".
I read it because as I wrote earlier, looking for cheap laughs. Now, as for your other post: You claim to represent the legions and legions of people who are unsatisfied and want something to be done about this, whether that something involves a roll back or more +10 codes.
So why can't you consider that maybe, just maybe, there are some people out there who don't want a roll back? People who DIDN'T abuse the codes?0 -
If Arch server didn't recently have a rollback i bet that 'solution' to this mess wouldn't even come to anyones mind. Everyone would be screaming about banning those who got tons of orbs instead. Granted, if there is a rollback back to say, last maint, I don't think I would care too much since I personally have not done too much, but there are a fair few who have and it wouldn't be fair to those innocent players, and rollbacks seem to come with even more problems than solutions (ergo the current code abuse, people who lost more things that they should etc). There really is no nice way for this to be fixed. Wish there was a way to just take all the code orbs out...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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phixion9999 wrote: »they only have 2 options send out many 6mtn bans for the people abusing the code system or ROLL Back all servers
not bad0 -
If it isn't PWI themselves **** things up, it's their "loyal" players doing it. Wow is all I have to say!0
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SilverMayhem - Archosaur wrote: »"number of unsatisfied people" are the ones that didn't get anything do to not being online and the site crashing.
Hey let them do something about it, but everyone rushing to a only option is a roll back. Im inclined to believe that half of the population probably didn't even know what a Roll back is/was until it happened. Do you know what needs to take place in order to do a roll back? A roll back is a last resort in order to fix a bug ingame. Coding that has been corrupted you, Roll Back (Reboot, Restart, Relog, what ever term you want to choice) in order to get to a stable point in the game. So why not look for a different solution.
I only stated that it would be funny if they did nothing at all.
But it wouldnt really be funny...maybe it would be ironic seeing as how "great" PWE has been at taking care of us lately but not really. Regardless of how extensive a roll back is many many people agree it needs to be done. I for one dont exactly WANT a roll back but i would support the choice. I would much rather see them just give us all the orbs we want and say gg. I mean sure gear is not equal to skill and high refines arent a substitute for skill either but it does make a difference. This is exactly why many people are outraged.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
SuckMyCrit - Momaganon wrote: »+defence on ornaments and rings
Haha, you are right! Lol.
I dont have any refined rings because I wear my R9/R8 rings but as far ornaments. Yep yep. that slipped my mind. But the improvement wouldn't be as drastic as the people on here make it out to seem. Most people do Gear then weapons then Ornaments. And, idk about other servers, but from this code alone. I dont know anyone thats gotten over 30 orbs >.> Tho if their gear is already +5. And they are happy with G16. Thats what.. 10-11 pieces?
(i can't think atm. I've been up all night)
So thats atleast 5 +10 orbs per pieceLogic = Against ToS. It's the answer to all "Wtf..." Moments during normal gameplay with other players.0 -
Currently playing a different mmo, I quit a few months back. However, I saw this promotion on facebook, definitely caught my attention. I would have no problem returning to this game if they made a legitimate improvement one day. (The dating service and unfinished quests joke didn't work for me last expansion). So no harm in checking it out and grabbing it just in case.
First the redeem page took forever to load. When I finally do load it, I can't even select character or server. Then I find out I don't even need to bother because (yet again) their code system is glitched and has been abused and removed.
Back to my current mmo. Sad to see nothing at all has changed. b:surrender0 -
I say, find out the abusers and ban them all.0
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Thrieya - Lost City wrote: »Ladies and gentlemen, we have a BREAKTHROUGH! 1 post that doesn't involve the phrase "lots of people are mad about this not just me!".
I read it because as I wrote earlier, looking for cheap laughs. Now, as for your other post: You claim to represent the legions and legions of people who are unsatisfied and want something to be done about this, whether that something involves a roll back or more +10 codes.
So why can't you consider that maybe, just maybe, there are some people out there who don't want a roll back? People who DIDN'T abuse the codes?
I never stated that there WERE NOT people that didnt want a roll back. Nor did i state that some of them DIDNT abuse the code. So why would i need to consider something i never had on my mind to begin with? i am very confused by this since i am not THAT biased to sit here and assume that EVERYONE wants the roll back. I would have to be blind to think that[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
BTW, don't expect a quick resolution to this.
It took them 6 month to finally decide on what to do about the goon glitch.
See you in 6 months.
Lol now that you mention more bugs ...
I wonder how many of you atm that want a rollback abused the old dragon bug ? xD
I know about a fair ammount of you b:laughOnly thing worst then a troll is a brainless troll ...0 -
What FooFighters said or take back what they got and just give by mail to everyone what has to get, i dont think is so difficult for them, i just believe they dont care about, thats why they will keep loosing people[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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FooFighters - Raging Tide wrote: »I say, find out the abusers and ban them all.
again..will take forever to gm's to sort each one of them from each server don't b ridiculous. rollback and that's it.0 -
Craig Daaaayvid, can I get a rewind! b:thanks0
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