Nice Update for CoA Event

Soon I will do my Demon cultivation in Elden, where boss Phlebo can do following things:

Phlebo
-has a close melee attack
-has an aoe slow channeling

So I must to QQ for those boss now about DPS benefits or I will seek squad to kill those boss ?

It's an awesome update

3 New quests availables at NPC on entrance, for peeps that cant get bosses.

New mobs around

Netherworld panaceas gives good reward on exchange

Bosses were 2 silly, they got buffs now (attack and def), plus, there are quests availables once u enter a room with a boss.. Such a cool update i have to say.

Oh, and that immune damage mob around, really sucks but, u cant get a game to be so easy so b:victory

ofc COA got harder, PWE don't want u to make money, duh

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

So, DPH class build is now PVE oriented build ?



Or they just try to balance this game ?

Oi I so left out that tidbit. :$ How silly of me.

Damage Per Hit... may still not be the quickest way to kill things that do not have anti aps buffs that make aps nigh useless, but still to me it seems like DPH is getting a bit of helping hand... too much of one in my opinion.

I stand by my original statement, aps was never really all that effective imo for mass pvp... except for the days when r93r 20k+ phys def/50-100 (yes these numbers are a bit off... but still..) def lvl casters weren't running around everywhere.

I feel like the way the game is going, dps squads will be so ineffective, that everyone will be eventually demanding DPH classes for everything, then it would just turn casters into the 'wanted' class for everything... which so isn't the right solution for this game at all. (Yes there isn't hoards if people demanding that for bh SOT... but there is a few.. EVERYONE tends to go with whatever way is the most effective way to kill something the quickest way possible... and if its dph that is owning bosses... then that is what people will eventually require you to have to get in.) Surely there is a medium where both groups can meet in the middle so to speak, and help each other get things done in a timely manner. Albeit this game has struggled for a significant amount of time to get squads to actually work together, where all classes are welcomed for the most part. (Delta was a good example where practically any class is wanted.... if you have the right 'roles' filled with ppl who play their class well. IE: Puller, Healer, and aoe DD's, and sure it can be difficult for certain classes to get in there, but really that may be more of a testament as too how many of that 'class's' role is needed per run... (usually i t was 1 sin/veno (aka arguable boss puller/killer... though obviously that wasn't the only thing they were useful for... not even scratching the surface really.) per squad.

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Grr that was a bit of a wall of text. QQ xD lol

Edit: For the record I don't really care that this change was made (if you couldn't tell from the fact I said I don't do COA)... what I am having the issue with is the fact that old instances are getting revamped, making it harder for those who aren't able to compete to do so feasibly. Not to mention, the extra times that things will now take due to various reasons... but really imho 20 extra minutes (if what I read is true) isn't bad AT ALL... but I think that depends on your server/the people in the instance and how well they know what to do to make things go faster for them/others.

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Awww you poor melees. I'm sorry for you, you never had the chance to run 5 min nirvanas either. b:sad

No seriously, go home lol

Even I'm caster myself, I don't think its fair to just make some classes suddenly useless and put in such huge advantage 1 class like archers are right now. Aps people are already useless in pvp so its fair for them to have some perks in pwe. What was happening with caster in the past wasn't fair to but in stead of making stuff balanced we just switching roles now.

I personally sympathize with people that have aps mains and put lot of money in them. Guess now people have to start making casters alts.

Temptatio/V - Dreamweaver wrote: »

... Aps people are already useless in pvp so its fair for them to have some perks in pwe. What was happening with caster in the past wasn't fair to but in stead of making stuff balanced we just switching roles now...

I am waiting for those moment.

Let give them PvP, but PvE for casters.

Such poor APS characters ... let give them PvP advantages.

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

I am waiting for those moment.

Let give them PvP, but PvE for casters.

Such poor APS characters ... let give them PvP advantages.

Don't see a reason for mocking. Wander what you would say if by any chance you made BM and put lot of money in it. Judging by experience so far you can log one day and find out that with new patch your toon is completely useless after you farmed your *** out for it.

i think china did that change because there aps sin is still good? almost no one R9 there if im right. so almost caster with purify weap, since they use warsoul or g15. no high atk lvl + zerk dags there, so maybe they felt for their version they had to be nerfed

Clokey - Harshlands wrote: »

few questions/ whats ur wep? did u do coa tonigh? u was tanking 2 normal mobs and 2 immune? hahahaha lol ok this is not my point, tank is easy. what boss u was killing? the worns? lol I was killing the 3 arms boss, the best boss in coa

and magic? lol 3 magic 580 dex

G16 Niv +10 dot build. It was taking about 5-6 spark cycles to kill the frost giant boss 2.5m hp. Which is about right. It usually takes just 2 1/2 spark cycles.

I am laughing at your 580 dex r9rr that takes over 3 minutes longer to kill a boss that has only 500k more hp than my 1 1/2 min. And that 3 arm boss is a nab b:chuckle

Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not sure what gears Azzazzin is currently wearing, but last time I did CoA a few weeks ago - what I noticed on my seeker (+6 astral ballad and full g16 gears) is that he was killing around 4x the rate I was on my seeker by using the typical Spark -> auto attack method. Maybe he threw in some Subseas/powerdashes - as well and some genie amps. On the other hand - seeker shatters don't work in CoA (or at least didn't the last I checked) and I wasn't using a genie with an amp setup besides Frenzy. Bosses in there have 0 base defenses so mire is only effective an evasion debuff, and Ion Spike only as damage.. Therefore, what I'm assuming a +10 - 12 Netherworld Guidance or R9rr dagger.. now does (based on your times listed above) about the same damage as a +6 g16 nirvy DPHing seeker. That is, if the sin is trying to retardly aps stuff. Not sure honestly, but I think that maybe.. just maybe.. they do more damage overall against that buff with Chill on and go for skill spam. Just a thought.

Blasphemy!! How dare you suggest sins actually use their brain!!f:scared

I did get same amouint of orb thats in and hour vs 20 min in the past. AS far as using dps or skill dmaeg seemed about equal and considering the high evasion teh mobs have in ther ea pure strength build woulndt do taht much more damage. On teh other end, i can tell you the 2 r9rr archer+ 1 mystic got over 2000 in teh same amount of time (mystic was mostly picking). So we just went from aps bm barb and sin to a single class dominating being archer.
SO for next weak swicth your aps gear to an archer and get a - int sling and youll be just fine they havent really fixed aps... R9rr also works great since its got decent int too....

SeaI - Sanctuary wrote: »

sure for those who are r999 +9 archers, seekers, & any AA they loved it, but for the rest of us non cash shoppers / merchants.

I'm a caster R9rr, my bf is a R9rr archer, we don't c$.

People need to stop with their ''R9rr=C$''.

We did farm our stuff, if other people are too lazy to farm that doesn't make us C$.

I think that it's a good thing that they try something new.

It's not the end of the world if for one event archers/casters can dominate on the APS fishes.

OK, i like COA ad all but can't currently get on the game (laptop broke working on trying to get another) anyways ive been told new buffs on the bosses and yes i read thru all the forums...but can the buffs be purged by venos. If so awesome if not oh well lol.

Does it occur to anyone that maybe they want us to work together? Last night I squaded with a barb and we did ok working together on the boss.