Nice Update for CoA Event

Clokey - Harshlands wrote: »

now melee DD cant do COA? not only Sins, im talking about BMs Barb Seekers too... we need to do 25 Spark to kill a boss?

with R9rr 4aps as 5 min to kill a boss? and what about Magic boss? inmunne damage can do boss normal without buff for magic DD? this is fair game? omg nice one gms... no more coa for Melee DD

Boo Hoo, it takes you longer to kill a boss. Is this what this game has come to? Some microwave community complaining whenever something is changed that makes it even slightly longer to kill things that shouldn't be easy to kill in the first place?

Really?

OP has a point; this will only make COA rings more expensive for people.

Every day I hear people QQing about hurr durr aps greed when they don't even realize the fundamental economic principle of trade: An aps farmer sin is tremendously high-efficiency for farming COA bosses. Due to the old base cost of COA rings (10mil on my server) it's also a good farm with excellent returns at a high speed that lowers the opportunity cost of producing other goods, such as TT mats or EXP rooms. What does this mean? He will be willing to accept a trade for a lot less than a toon/squad that takes longer and requires greater profit-splitting. This lowers the cost of desired product (COA rings) and therefore people can actually obtain them for less work producing other goods than they would have if they simply traded for COA rings.

I never appreciated APS so fully as when I started taking AP macroeconomics; APS moves the PPF of a farmable instance like COA WAYYYYYY out, while non-aps'ers can never reach that level of efficiency and productivity, resulting in a flatlined PPF that makes it cheaper and cheaper (as farmers upgrade their average gear level) for people to obtain items, thus driving economic growth. b:dirty Seriously, look at this from a point of view of efficiency and scarcity and you'll see how bad buffing COA is.

In fact, I say revert high TTs to their previous TT90 gear requirement level so we can get alts geared for even cheaper b:dirty and even more people can be on-par gear wise.

This is one of the best updates!

Its a good thing I don't do COA.

I get wanting to make bosses/mobs be a bit harder to kill, but seriously making them take so long that EVERYTHING favors a DPH class/build... is just so... ftl. <<

I also understand its not until you near end game that the hits from DPH becomes so great that it surpasses that of what full fledged apsing is capable off. I know DPH never really out-shined DPS (EDIT: In PVE... but pvp... just wow *waves white flag*), but still it seems at this rate it will only be a matter of time before meleers decide to ignore those classes all together. (I know insanely unlikely)

Perhaps I am overreacting... one thing is for sure though its annoying how things keep getting harder for those who don't have insanely awesome gear/refines, thanks to the uber powerful wanting things to be more challenging again. (My suggestion: Quit revamping old instances, make new ones with better rewards/the 'new' harder bosses/mobs that 'ruin' the effectiveness of aps.)

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

gg. r9rr archers OP.

Actually, if heart shatter debuff works on those mobs, seekers will pretty much dominate the instance, not archers.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You're forgetting the cost of time, which is significantly higher now.

it took right at an hour for coa to end on rt's tonight, which is about 15-20mins longer than usual, not very significant seeing quite a few nabs left coa when they saw the dmg reduction debuff on bosses

Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Do you mean that brown color anti aps buff - like seen on bh seat boss?

Yes. It is exactly that buff.

Neodaystar - Sanctuary wrote: »

That is good news for me ^^

I farm COA mainly for books and shards not so much profit, so the more that leave means more time in there to get more drops. There are two drops now. It is a bit of a mix of the old COA with a couple additions. The only main difference in the bosses is the dmg reduction and self buffs, but they hit about the same. There are two types of drops as well. The second drop is for a a couple quests you can do and also turn in at the end for exp or holy pill sets. 20 drops for 1 pill set or exp. I was in there with a veno and I got a tad over 400 drops for tags b:victory and 4 pill sets

That's pretty stupid. APS gear is so outdated now it's just pointless to try to nerf it at this point. If it has no place in PvP might as well make it somewhat useful in PvE...but it looks like even that is going away.

So where would the market for TT99s, R8R armor be now? (not to mention the 40 atk lv claws.)

Im not sure if its if you take too much time killing em or at a certain hp but yeah they spark gaining health and damage buff for a while especially painfull since i was stuck with a melee aps toon in there.... ARcher aps toon toon will do great as r999 archer.

On another subject the other drop seems to be exchaged 20 for 1 of each type of pill for meridian or for exp for my 102 bm was 8000 xp per item not sure if its fixed or lv related

Out of all the changes pwi has made, this truly was the most unwelcome changed, sure for those who are r999 +9 archers, seekers, & any AA they loved it, but for the rest of us non cash shoppers / merchants. what? we gotta do tt before u guys decide to give the bosses that annoying buff, in that instance too? & maybe Fcc & whatever is left of nirvana as well?

seriously those that liked to farm just got completely screwed tonight, by the time Coa ended half my friends who went in their came out with broken fist / daggers ( mine from full derabilitiy was at half )

My only question is, when are u guys gonna revert it back to normal?

SeaI - Sanctuary wrote: »

sure for those who are r999 +9 archers, seekers, & any AA they loved it, but for the rest of us non cash shoppers / merchants. what?

Implying you cant be a r999 archer seeker or AA class without being a non CSer/merchant.....b:laugh Go farm your TT/lunar/ whatever it is you apsers do, ill tack this instance to one of the things my AA class char can do(efficiently) now.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I get wanting to make bosses/mobs be a bit harder to kill, but seriously making them take so long that EVERYTHING favors a DPH class/build... is just so... ftl. <<
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So, DPH class build is now PVE oriented build ?

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I know DPH never really out-shined DPS ...

Or they just try to balance this game ?