This is how Enelysion wins TW's.

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  • Jelloid - Sanctuary
    Jelloid - Sanctuary Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Wait, this is news? b:shocked
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  • FaceRolI - Sanctuary
    FaceRolI - Sanctuary Posts: 450 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nixop wrote: »
    you cant take away that persons mouse and keyboard but you can kick them from your faction


    why would you want someone in your faction thats giveing you a bad name

    if you dont wanna do anything about it dont lie you are against spawn killing

    are you refering to sarrafeline? embarass faction almost as much as LG member QQing about vindi "hax" killing towers.

    **** srsly embarassing entire server, i so ashamed to even be on Sanc b:surrender true PvE server.

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  • JaggedLove - Sanctuary
    JaggedLove - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    for Your Information A Person Will Be Banned For Violations Of Tos, Unappropiate Behaviour And Whatnot. Clearly Someone With Your Intelligence Would Or Perhaps Should Be Aware Of That. Even If Someone Is Against Spawnkilling Does Not Mean It's A Valid Reason For Kicking Someone From Faction If It's Not Against The Rules Nor Tos.

    Let That Be Clear.

    Vindicate Does It All The Time An I See No One Is Complaining
  • Ehmi - Heavens Tear
    Ehmi - Heavens Tear Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Old news. This has been going on over 2 years ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg_X-spBgCM

    At end of video.
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  • Jensul - Sanctuary
    Jensul - Sanctuary Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    He's been back again, got more screencaps.

    I know this is a longshot, is there any chance you can post the rest of those screens?
  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    For your information a person will be banned for violations of ToS, unappropiate behaviour and whatnot. Clearly someone with your intelligence would or perhaps should be aware of that. Even if someone is against spawnkilling does not mean it's a valid reason for kicking someone from faction if it's not against the rules nor ToS.

    Let that be clear.

    are you saing person cant be kicked from faction if they didnt violate ToS??

    i never said anything about ToS,i was talking about rules you can make as a faction

    if you dont have any rules in your faction then you are garbage faction that doesnt deserve any respect
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    There is nothing shameful or disrespectful about spawn killing during a TW, it's a perfectly legitimate tactic that is largely avoidable. Padding kills after a TW ends with further spawn kills is indeed rather distasteful, but is even more avoidable, just stay dead.

    Don't wait around on the spawn platform for the seal to wear off. Spread out, move to the sides. Be aware of likely spawn killers and make it a priority to stop them before they get in range. At the very least, if you see someone going in, alert team members via voice chat that a spawn attack is incoming.

    And quit crying about it, it just makes you look weak and pathetic.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I agree with Val.

    Killing people as they are spawning during a TW is a valid tactic. It helps your side by slowing the rate of enemy reinforcement. If the devs didn't want you to do this they'd give newly spawned players invulnerability instead of a seal.
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  • OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary
    OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lol everyone faction has its share of spawn killers, its nothing new. There are people in enely who prolly dont like getting spawn killed (i do remember threads QQing about vindi spawn killing them) there are some who like doing spawn killing, its the same with every faction. And if you dont like this you would have quit the game if you were in last RT/Vindi tw lol
  • OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary
    OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Killing people as they are spawning during a TW is a valid tactic. It helps your side by slowing the rate of enemy reinforcement. If the devs didn't want you to do this they'd give newly spawned players invulnerability instead of a seal.

    It is a tactic when battle are somewhat equal, most of the time people do it for **** and giggles, most TW's of sanctuary are 1 sided, don;t need to spawn kill to win, it's just people do it more for amusement and seeing multiple logs in their damage than use it as an effective tactic.
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It is a tactic when battle are somewhat equal, most of the time people do it for **** and giggles, most TW's of sanctuary are 1 sided, don;t need to spawn kill to win, it's just people do it more for amusement and seeing multiple logs in their damage than use it as an effective tactic.

    Even in one sided fights, spawn killing does serve a tactical purpose. It can help prevent pushes from stalling or dying out. Why take several pushes to win when you can keep the pressure on and win in less?
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It is a tactic when battle are somewhat equal, most of the time people do it for **** and giggles, most TW's of sanctuary are 1 sided, don;t need to spawn kill to win, it's just people do it more for amusement and seeing multiple logs in their damage than use it as an effective tactic.

    That's like saying basketball players shouldn't go for 3-point shots unless the score difference is within 5 points.

    Even if it is for amusement, why is it so bad for a game to be amusing? I don't see why people would ever go to a PVP event such as TW with an expectation that they should be allowed to stand around doing nothing while not being attacked.
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  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    That's like saying basketball players shouldn't go for 3-point shots unless the score difference is within 5 points.

    Even if it is for amusement, why is it so bad for a game to be amusing? I don't see why people would ever go to a PVP event such as TW with an expectation that they should be allowed to stand around doing nothing while not being attacked.

    if you feel amused and like pro aoeing people unbuffed and sealed on a spawn point it can only mean you are really young or your mom pushed you down stairs when you were young
  • OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary
    OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    That's like saying basketball players shouldn't go for 3-point shots unless the score difference is within 5 points.

    Even if it is for amusement, why is it so bad for a game to be amusing? I don't see why people would ever go to a PVP event such as TW with an expectation that they should be allowed to stand around doing nothing while not being attacked.

    Oh, i never said its bad, I said it is not so much of a tactic in one sided fights. Personally, I spawn kill when I get chance (though been ages since i saw enemy base) and when i get spawn killed i dont care, coz it's all for fun.

    I was just trying to say that nowadays it is more of a amusement/ego booster thingy than a tactic.


    @ValNub

    I agree but there are many TW for eg, Vindi vs Leg, RT vs Vindi, Vindi vs Enely, Leg vs Kaku, that Spawn killing or not the faction would win in a single push. So, i guess it is a tactic somewhat but come on you cant deny in the above fights Spawn killing won't make a difference right?
  • Star_Prism - Archosaur
    Star_Prism - Archosaur Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nixop wrote: »
    as a faction you can be for or against spawn killing

    if you are against it,and still letting those individuals do it without takeing any consequences
    dont whine about people shaminge on all faction

    if you dont want bad reputation make faction rules,warn your members when they are breaking them,and if they dont stop just kick

    thats pretty much how you make respectable faction

    Our faction has this rule, we are not allowed to spawn kill in TW. The leader does not approve of that tactic. If you do spawn kill in TW you are banished.

    If a faction really did disapprove of TW spawn killing they would banish a person for doing it. By allowing the person to stay they are saying it is acceptable behavior.

    A leader runs the faction and sets the rules. If a person breaks the rule it is the leader's responsibility to punish the person for it. Failing to do so is poor leadership. And it is because of poor leadership that many factions fall apart. Running a faction is hard work, it takes a lot of commitment. It's not something everyone can do effectively.
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  • IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary
    IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nixop wrote: »
    are you saing person cant be kicked from faction if they didnt violate ToS??

    i never said anything about ToS,i was talking about rules you can make as a faction

    if you dont have any rules in your faction then you are garbage faction that doesnt deserve any respect

    I didn't say you said anything about the ToS, I simply said something about it.

    But as you can see in the other posts, your post is kinda redundant b:chuckle
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  • IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary
    IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Oh, i never said its bad, I said it is not so much of a tactic in one sided fights. Personally, I spawn kill when I get chance (though been ages since i saw enemy base) and when i get spawn killed i dont care, coz it's all for fun.

    It's cause I keep one shotting Arc :/

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  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I didn't say you said anything about the ToS, I simply said something about it.

    But as you can see in the other posts, your post is kinda redundant b:chuckle

    yea and you look post above your

    i dont know about you or your server but on DW there are normal people playing the game

    and people get banished for breaking faction rules (and you showed your faction dont have any)
  • OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary
    OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    It's cause I keep one shotting Arc :/

    Still owe you a charm huh ?


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  • IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary
    IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nixop wrote: »
    yea and you look post above your

    i dont know about you or your server but on DW there are normal people playing the game

    and people get banished for breaking faction rules (and you showed your faction dont have any)

    Lol kid, you keep looking for excuses to make your post look valid and make assumptions :/

    If you read the other posts from people (and myself) it should be clear. As a faction we do not approve of spawnkilling, but we can't kick someone for it (which was basically your whole point). Again, one person's actions does not mean it's a whole faction's actions.

    But meh.. doubt you'll get it and you're probably gonna rage even more now D:

    Any mod who can close this useless thread plox? b:kiss
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  • IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary
    IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I keeeeeeeeeeeeeel you b:angry

    Arc b:dirty b:kiss
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  • Roxxannae - Sanctuary
    Roxxannae - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nixop wrote: »
    yea and you look post above your

    i dont know about you or your server but on DW there are normal people playing the game

    and people get banished for breaking faction rules (and you showed your faction dont have any)

    Lol

    Of course we have rules, silly. Just because we don't kick someone for spawn-killing doesn't mean we're a bad faction for not having the same rules as some other factions. A lot of us look down on spawn killing but if every faction was gonna have that same rule I'm pretty sure half the server would have been banished from their factions b:laugh We're entitled to having whatever rules we wish, doesn't have to be identical to every other faction. If they wanna ban spawn-killing that's fine.

    Go back to the sandpit b:pleased
  • Roxxannae - Sanctuary
    Roxxannae - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I keeeeeeeeeeeeeel you b:angry

    I'd like to see ya try big boy b:mischievous b:chuckle
  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Lol kid, you keep looking for excuses to make your post look valid and make assumptions :/

    If you read the other posts from people (and myself) it should be clear. As a faction we do not approve of spawnkilling, but we can't kick someone for it (which was basically your whole point). Again, one person's actions does not mean it's a whole faction's actions.

    But meh.. doubt you'll get it and you're probably gonna rage even more now D:

    Any mod who can close this useless thread plox? b:kiss

    you said it pretty much....as faction you dont approve spawn killing but you allow your member to spawn kill??

    trash faction - nothing else to add

    and for the info i dont rage about this thread O_o i just fap while reading
  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Lol

    Of course we have rules, silly. Just because we don't kick someone for spawn-killing doesn't mean we're a bad faction for not having the same rules as some other factions. A lot of us look down on spawn killing but if every faction was gonna have that same rule I'm pretty sure half the server would have been banished from their factions b:laugh We're entitled to having whatever rules we wish, doesn't have to be identical to every other faction. If they wanna ban spawn-killing that's fine.

    Go back to the sandpit b:pleased

    explain me rule where you dont approve spawn killing but still let your member do it without any consequence

    and then get all faction to cry on forum why someone shameing you :o
  • OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary
    OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I'd like to see ya try big boy b:mischievous b:chuckle

    Gonna start a new thread about enely being Forum Bullies too b:cry b:cry
  • Jensul - Sanctuary
    Jensul - Sanctuary Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    During World War I, trench warfare became a whole different animal. With the advent of the machine gun and armor with the addition of artillery, the psychological impact became far more palpable.

    One of the primary tactics was used to cause lots of damage on a broad scale. With no discrimination in any real form. This was the artillery. With shells reigning down all around the trenches, the troops could only guess if the next one was for them. This seriously unsettling balance of the field left many survivors completely ruined emotionally and physically, even if they had escape without harm.

    The spawn kill serves this purpose alone. You don't know when it's coming, and when it does, most of the time you can only brace for it and hope you make it out alive. It gets people upset, they get angry and rattled, they begin to identify as a victim more than a fighter. So it doesn't just prolong the reinforcement rate, it also serves as a semi psych tool. Once you understand that, you can work toward moving past the negative side of this tactic. See it for what it is, a tactic.
  • IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary
    IllumiZoldyk - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Gonna start a new thread about enely being Forum Bullies too b:cry b:cry

    Lmao xD
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  • Roxxannae - Sanctuary
    Roxxannae - Sanctuary Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Explain to me where "A lot of us look down on spawn killing" meant we have a rule and should kick people for doing it. It is looked down upon but it's not a rule that we necessarily kick for. Like everyone else said, it's a tactic used in TW, but quite a few people see it as disrespectful. lrn2read or idk have a lollipop or something

    I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to read forums either :O I read the forums on a regular basis, something wrong about that?

    EDIT: I'm a forum noob and can't quote posts for some reason b:laugh
  • nixop
    nixop Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Explain to me where "A lot of us look down on spawn killing" meant we have a rule and should kick people for doing it. It is looked down upon but it's not a rule that we necessarily kick for. Like everyone else said, it's a tactic used in TW, but quite a few people see it as disrespectful. lrn2read or idk have a lollipop or something

    I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to read forums either :O I read the forums on a regular basis, something wrong about that?

    EDIT: I'm a forum noob and can't quote posts for some reason b:laugh

    i do have a loli and you are welcome to suck it :)
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