This is how Enelysion wins TW's.

CapnK - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yeah i agree too. Just the irony is that this is the same faction that complained about being spawned killed when put in the same situation.Apparently it is still a primary strategy that is still continuing and approved. Nothing good about a two face faction.

It's cute how Deceptistar ignores her own quoting.

It is not, however, a primary strategy of our TW as it is with Vindi.

Many in Enelysion feel their (vindi's) tactics (spawn killing, etc.) are dishonorable, but I understand that they are playing to win at all costs. We'll learn what we can from the experience and try to do better next week.

Obviously we learned that spawnkilling works and we should do it more.

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

It's not a specific strategy. And it shouldn't be allowed. Strategies are ones such as; Rush, Turtle.. This is a desperate measure which factions that are either to cocky, or cannot win without doing so.

Are you from Vindicate? 'cause Vindicate members follow the same viewpoints as you do.

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

Obviously we learned that spawnkilling works and we should do it more.

Yeah, I saw that Enelysion really changed in that TW. They even started to use common-chat. Tell Sarunya to update her rules. o.o

Heartz - Dreamweaver

nixop wrote: »

you said it pretty much....as faction you dont approve spawn killing but you allow your member to spawn kill??

trash faction - nothing else to add

and for the info i dont rage about this thread O_o i just fap while reading

I thought you liked Dyna, but your probably just biased then. They've had their fair share of sins and archers spawnkilling too. So does Regenesis and Tempest. Seen it happen in all three. There's always the odd 1-3 people that for whatever reason wants to kill spawns.In faction chat there is always caps not to, if it's seen, but that doesnt change the fact, that some members do it.
But to your thinking any faction isn't respectable and trash, if they allow people to stay in faction, if they break such a rule. therefore no top faction is respectable? - because it will always happen.

I don't spawnkill, I do agree its annoying tho. But if it wasn't against my faction rules, I'd probably do it too, if I had the chance.

Desdi - Sanctuary

Roxxannae - Sanctuary wrote: »

Would you like some popcorn? b:cute or or or I made pasta too!

I'll take both b:dirty

SiIver - Sanctuary

I wasn't actually at last night's TW due to a naughty computer that decided not to work. However, from personal experience I can verify all Enelysion officers tell everyone in faction chat not to spawn kill especially after the TW ends, we even go as far to leave the enemy base. This is something which Enelysion has always done. If one person decides not to follow these rules I'm pretty sure they get a warning. No one wants to kick a long time, dedicated member over one incident.

Roxxannae - Sanctuary

Popcorn and pasta for Desdi!!

Looks like a certain someone (who was named and shamed) lost his fanclub because the screenshot got removed

Silver's right, we do warn people who do that sorta thing. Anyway let's all go to the park and feed some ducks eh?

XooFIREoox - Heavens Tear

Mr Tanky, get yourself to 100 and upgrade your gear. Then you won't have to qq so much. In a world of 100+ players, your underlvled and by that most likely undergeared. I'm not in a fac atm, I ran one for almost 4 years but spawn killing is a pw norm. Funny how with just my full s2 nirvy set its not really an issue. Basic theme here is get lvled, get geared, and get better.

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

I am 100. Good one! It's just the shoddy PWI system that doesn't show you've leveled up.

XooFIREoox - Heavens Tear

Sorry for the mistake, slow system. If your 100 tho what's the deal. Gear for what's coming. I'm not a crazy op barb by any means and I do just fine. You should too. Demon or sage btw?

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

Demon. And I'm working on gear (Nearly got full G15 set, then I'll G16 it). There isn't really a problem, I'm just contributing to the thread, cause I'm an ex-Regi & ex-Enely.

XooFIREoox - Heavens Tear

Lol I see. Demon rocks! +1 to that. I should be g16 already but my wife is scared of warsong and I don't want to be the **** that runs off to do it without her. (its a her and I thing. Not trying to offend anybody) but I feel a bit better now knowing your not needlessly qqing. Your qqing for all those who are busy being spawn killed as we speak. Something poetic about that.

lordhanzo

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Why would they? Killing at the spawn point isn't against the ToS. As far as I am concerned, if you cannot prevent being farmed at the spawn, you ought not to be in TW in the first place.

^
this.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sorry Sarra, the only person shamed here is you.

^
and this.



and the right post for this thread should be: (lol)

klys wrote: »

Your faction got beat by one person? Cool story.

they breached your defense and able to keep the water leaked, I see nothing wrong there.

nixop

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I thought you liked Dyna, but your probably just biased then. They've had their fair share of sins and archers spawnkilling too. So does Regenesis and Tempest. Seen it happen in all three. There's always the odd 1-3 people that for whatever reason wants to kill spawns.In faction chat there is always caps not to, if it's seen, but that doesnt change the fact, that some members do it.
But to your thinking any faction isn't respectable and trash, if they allow people to stay in faction, if they break such a rule. therefore no top faction is respectable? - because it will always happen.

I don't spawnkill, I do agree its annoying tho. But if it wasn't against my faction rules, I'd probably do it too, if I had the chance.

in time while i was still being active and doing tws,all faction i was in had strict rules about spawn killing....in those faction people breaking the rules would get warnings and if they would still continue it would result with kick from faction no matter of gears they had.
i cannot talk much about tws of DW this days since im not playing anymore but i dont see any people complaining about it

last time i actualy saw someone makeing drama about it...it was Dyna against Troya months ago (but i believe dyna didnt do it because they couldnt win normal way....more of a lesson cuz they got ganked from Troya and 2 other factions)

my feelings about dyna are neutral...but i do give them more respect then to a tempest (cuz they showed they dont give a damn about gears....if you didnt know,ask around what happened to Breezy and how he got kicked and reported from dyna)

i had a big respect for regen members in the past...but you guys ruined it joining on side with people that been trash talking you for 3years and a cheater (wich you are not affraid to admit he is)

all your acts pretty much shows what you are so i dont have to explain

XLeeu - Heavens Tear

WAIT WAIT WAIT !!!

Am i the only one that saw the screenshot for what it was ?

1 yes 1 BM against like 30 rivals - mmmmm I think the one that should complain is the BM for being ganked b:chuckle

BAD FACTION FOR GANKING 30 VS 1 !!!! lol


xLeeu
I eat you last

Burned_soul - Sanctuary

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Are you from Vindicate? 'cause Vindicate members follow the same viewpoints as you do.

I am from Vindicate and I spawn killed Enelysion few weeks ago, like really hard and watch them whine about it, got a hard on too, especially when they called us disrespectful - funny huh, 2 weeks later they do the same to someone else... Sooooo when its done to you its not cool but when you do it to others it is?

At least I am honest, love spawn killing during tw!

But guess Vindies will always be the bad guys on the server as if we're the only one doing it, thus far being mentioned in this stupid thread by stupid people even tho it had nothing to do with Vindicate.

Toodles.

Heartz - Dreamweaver

nixop wrote: »

in time while i was still being active and doing tws,all faction i was in had strict rules about spawn killing....in those faction people breaking the rules would get warnings and if they would still continue it would result with kick from faction no matter of gears they had.
i cannot talk much about tws of DW this days since im not playing anymore but i dont see any people complaining about it

last time i actualy saw someone makeing drama about it...it was Dyna against Troya months ago (but i believe dyna didnt do it because they couldnt win normal way....more of a lesson cuz they got ganked from Troya and 2 other factions)

my feelings about dyna are neutral...but i do give them more respect then to a tempest (cuz they showed they dont give a damn about gears....if you didnt know,ask around what happened to Breezy and how he got kicked and reported from dyna)

i had a big respect for regen members in the past...but you guys ruined it joining on side with people that been trash talking you for 3years and a cheater (wich you are not affraid to admit he is)

all your acts pretty much shows what you are so i dont have to explain

You are in dyna currently ( you joined them 14th january on your archer), so how neutral are you exactly. And I'd say your kinda biased after finding out you once was kicked from Tempest. Guess that's the reason you like to pick on Tempest - Guess that's pretty normal to feel anger by getting kicked?

DoodsWH - Sanctuary

Kill or be killed. That is all b:pleased b:bye

Maelael - Heavens Tear

Spawn Killing is Bad

Spawn Killing is fine, and a legit tactic

If you're able to spawn kill another faction, you don't need to spawn kill to win the TW.

I have yet to be in a TW, or see a recording of a TW that runs contrary to this point.

It's a legitimate tactic to use - IE gives you an advantage. But from evidence and experience, its never needed or necessary.

Spawn killing is an individuals choice, not a factions

I've seen both. Some factions encourage it if they don't like the other faction, or feel it's needed to win.

On a personal level, I'll spawn kill one faction on HT for hours. But only because I've watched them do it to other weaker factions while claiming they're above doing it. But do I support it otherwise? Not on a personal level - as its not needed to win a TW. If you can get it to the point where spawn killing is viable, you can kill them fully chi'ed and buffed when they get away from the death towers.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Hey, I'm quite happy our faction is one that doesn't need to trash talk others in wc. Let's keep that for the forums too. b:surrender

Maharett - Sanctuary

Killin at spawn point is like kickin a corpse. You respawn and are sealed and have no way to defend yourself. It shows so much skill and bravery on the part of the spawn killer and the faction leader that is allowing it that im overwhelmed and in awe. Should be so proud. At the start of this game everyone thought spawn killin was a low blow and didn't do it. Now its whatever we can be scum and its funny..Theres always a few idiots who ruin things for everyone else then brag about how skilled they are. So very skilled at killin people who are already tied up wish I could be that pro...

nixop

Heartz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You are in dyna currently ( you joined them 14th january on your archer), so how neutral are you exactly. And I'd say your kinda biased after finding out you once was kicked from Tempest. Guess that's the reason you like to pick on Tempest - Guess that's pretty normal to feel anger by getting kicked?

i was already accused to be Zsw and TrueWarz...am i now someone else or?

i havent been in dyna for over a year....and i never got kicked from tempest

most people(even the ones in tempest this days) forget tempest existed before the suns era

____BM____ - Sanctuary

Burned_soul - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am from Vindicate and I spawn killed Enelysion few weeks ago, like really hard and watch them whine about it, got a hard on too, especially when they called us disrespectful - funny huh, 2 weeks later they do the same to someone else... Sooooo when its done to you its not cool but when you do it to others it is?

To be honest with you, i really think that Enely have finally got it into there heads that nobody gives a **** if you spawn kill now as everyone does it so they are no longer caring xD Yes people are told repeatedly to not spawn kill in every Tw because it is "not fair" but hey, if they are spawn killing then you have already lost anyways so meh.....

Spawnkilling happens, get over it.

Have a nice day ^^

Daruvial - Sanctuary

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/269/20130309230945.png

so you have rules for the faction but here is the director breaking one? O.o

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

____BM____ - Sanctuary wrote: »

To be honest with you, i really think that Enely have finally got it into there heads that nobody gives a **** if you spawn kill now as everyone does it so they are no longer caring xD Yes people are told repeatedly to not spawn kill in every Tw because it is "not fair" but hey, if they are spawn killing then you have already lost anyways so meh.....

Spawnkilling happens, get over it.

Have a nice day ^^

Ironic how 3 weeks ago. YOU were QQing that Vindi were spawnkilling you.

____BM____ - Sanctuary

Daruvial - Sanctuary wrote: »

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/269/20130309230945.png

so you have rules for the faction but here is the director breaking one? O.o

Who was this aimed at? Link isnt working here.....

Strife_son - Sanctuary

Daruvial - Sanctuary wrote: »

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/269/20130309230945.png

so you have rules for the faction but here is the director breaking one? O.o

Technically, that is not spawn killing. To be hit by a barrage on catas you have to move down into it b:bye

_Mr_Tanky_ - Sanctuary

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

Technically, that is not spawn killing. To be hit by a barrage on catas you have to move down into it b:bye

He/She's got Blue circle so it is.

Daruvial - Sanctuary

____BM____ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Who was this aimed at? Link isnt working here.....

maybe the director? lol

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

Technically, that is not spawn killing. To be hit by a barrage on catas you have to move down into it b:bye

call it what you want but its the same thing lol.

skaitavia

I do not know why this thread is still continuing.

The discussion of spawn killing has been discussed quite a bit already.