DQ Items worthless

v4liance wrote: »

Hey folks,

New update:

We've been working with the developers to create an alternative method of coin farming for low to mid level players, and we're hoping to have this new system available before too long.

No promises on when this will be out, but I'm very hopeful that it will be live within 4-6 weeks.

Again, I'll keep you all posted as I learn more.

- Val

Dear V4,

No offense to you and the developing team, but is it really impossible for them to paste back old values of coins for the DQs? Is it that difficult to correct a few lines of code to have it reverted to normal?
b:surrender

So it means all of our DQ items really will end as worthless coin-wise (meaning the grinding and questing behind that was pointless too), that we are doomed to NPC them and begin anew on a hypothetical new system, a bit like what went for the supply stash... This does not amuse me at all.

Devs really don't want our version to be that different from the chinese one after all... Once they modify something it has to be the same for ours too, eh? I expect DQs 80+ to be nerfed now... I am sad you were not convincing to them enough there.

When I think about it, it really reminds me of the day the DQ system was put... It was supposed to be a compensation on the DQ nerfing (it's the third time we got one, btw), forced down our throats, set without many details of when, how or to what effect and we had to go through it because we had no other choice.
The only thing that made me happy about the DQ rewards is that I could use makeover scrolls for my characters (after you guys allowed the partial .ini change)

I must say I am really disappointed by the PWE team once again there. I guess my dreams of making my characters progress are really kind of gone forever now. I'll really take a break from the game for a while if it is so...* I am feeling this last expansion put the final nail in the coffin for me.

(DQs collected and kept in bulk to not NPC them at 1 coin each -> clogged inventories -> no FB to not waste drops -> worthless wait -> despair and frustration building up, even more because the game became really unstable -> no wish to really play the game anymore)

*In fact I already began to do just that, as I am only playing the game to buy and sell items (not putting a catshop for days, weeks or months though).

PWI was fun for a while. Thanks for making me move on to other things.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I'd actually rather see RB alpha spit out craptons of coin, ijs.
teach people early on how to zhen with their classes

Not everyone does RB, you know.
I am sure you would love that because you farm RB.

Besides, RB is a forsaken instance now (the value of fragments attests of this), since people prefer to waste time leveling up like crazy via a ToS rule-breaking method involving glitches or do BH in chain.

I made this cleric here since the dq nerfs. Done every quest and guess what? I have all my healing/buff/attacks(even metal mastery) maxed for my level. I didn't take a single coin from my main to feed this toon and I even had money to send my main.... Just do all your quests and learn which mats to farm. Not ones on the ground, ones from mobs, you know.. rough fur concentrated glue. Some of them go for 20k + each mat(on DW). Good luck and remember do your quests! b:bye

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

FYI, of all the classes, the cleric is one of the cheapest to get skills on. Try it again on a Psy.

I plan to try on wizzy, archer, psy and bm. Just trying to show that it's not impossible like all these people are trying to make it seem. b:bye

DoctorDark - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I made this cleric here since the dq nerfs. Done every quest and guess what? I have all my healing/buff/attacks(even metal mastery) maxed for my level. I didn't take a single coin from my main to feed this toon and I even had money to send my main.... Just do all your quests and learn which mats to farm. Not ones on the ground, ones from mobs, you know.. rough fur concentrated glue. Some of them go for 20k + each mat(on DW). Good luck and remember do your quests! b:bye

Sorry, i done every quest, sold every pot, arrow, no coin dqs to catshops, crafting mat drops to catshops (highest paying ofc), got the free dreamchaser pack so i didnt have to buy armor, pots or weapons, got the free charms, done the daily autum quest thing where its supposed to give you coin reward (never got the first coin from it), and still even after all that, i done my 49 culti and had 2k coin, and loads of spirit. I couldnt train any of the new skills i had opened up at 49. (Leveling a barb btw.)

DoctorDark - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I plan to try on wizzy, archer, psy and bm. Just trying to show that it's not impossible like all these people are trying to make it seem. b:bye

On my very first char, I had a mount, fashion, got married, spent 4m on a weapon, learnt all my skills and masteries and never sold mats to catshops cause I was nub and didn't even know what a catshop was, like most newbies. All before 70. The game was fun.

Requiring lots of experience and knowledge of the best mats to farm just to get the basic essentials isn't fun. Or realistic for someone just starting out on the game or even mmo's in general. It's bad enough gold is 15 times the price it once was without all these little coin cuts for the average lowbie.

Hello to whoever important from PWE is watching this,

I would like to state a few things, and considering how bad it's become, go as far as to advertise.

1. This game has become increasingly newbie-unfriendly in the 2ish years I've been playing. No bh51/39/59 squads, no DQ cash, nothing.

2. A safe assumption as to why you want more cards sliding may be the part where your playerbase is shrinking far too fast and you're probably losing all your jobs faster than we're quitting the game.

Keeping the possibility in mind that MANY people are quitting the game,

-removed-

And many MANY others all over mmo database sites.

Bad move guys.

53 pages of advice, but you're still as stubborn as an elephant giving birth to a whale.

Sad.

For the 450th time Ill give you the answer Val

WRAITH ATTACKS

- change the 'secret letter' drops so wraith attacks occur more often - make them say 5% instead of the current .3% or whatever **** drop rate they are.

EDIT - add coin drops for low level wraith mobs as dq arent worth enough for lower levels. For 80+ the wraith attacks give enough rewards.

CONS
- none

PROS
- first and formost - they can be farmed and done by the people who actually want to/need to because those people can go grinding in the first place, to get the 'secret letters' which will activate a wraith attack.

IE - a rich cash shopper, merchant etc wont bother with them. People like me who are always looking for a dollar will do them regularly.

- because of their random nature - they cant be botted.

- no time frame discrimination.

- very very very simple thing to change - just one little thing - the secret letter. Surely that cant be a huge coding problem???

SOme******* - Raging Tide wrote: »

Haven't read through most of this, but is it just me or do the DQ points not even refresh? Been waiting over a week for 1k+ dq points to come in and it's just not coming.... Am I under DQ arrest or something b:laugh

Mine hasn't updated since feb/7. Several things seem wonky with the website for me. My emotes haven't been working the last few days, nor the edit feature, but I've had no issue with the blessings while it seems to be broken for so many others.

Nenor - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mine hasn't updated since feb/7. Several things seem wonky with the website for me. My emotes haven't been working the last few days, nor the edit feature, but I've had no issue with the blessings while it seems to be broken for so many others.

Same here, and that was just within the last few days, prior to that it showed no items turned in. As for blessings, it seems to be broke or intentionally turned off for alts made since like the 1st of Feb.

From Support:

Thank you for your report. We are aware that some users are having issues when attempting to redeem the Facebook Connect Rewards. We'll be looking into a new solution to have this available again for a future update to the game. Until then, you'll need to continue with the remaining rewards that are still on the regarding character.

As if a new alt has a mailbox full of blessings.

falchca wrote: »

That's just NICE. I've come back ingame after a few months of absence and what do I see. Next minute after I saw the cost of 51 DQ item I wanted to uninstall the game immediately. Just 'cause it's too much.

I've left another official server of Perfect World for it had become impossible to play without charging gold and all good administration could do for players was throwing in new "chests". I was really happy to find out that PWI was different, loyal to players. That was few years ago. I've been watching it getting worse for some time already. And now it's an epic failure.

Absolutely this. b:laugh

Before Sirens of War patch I used to make 1kk a day buying and selling Blacksmith mats and pet pag hay/fruit/fungus

My income constantly dropped since the DQ items nerv...

Now I barey make 200k a day, thats just enough to bay the teleport/repair costs

DQ nerv ruined the economy badass!!!

Nice job PWE b:angry just go ahead and slap the hand that feeds you...

moussakka wrote: »

Before Sirens of War patch I used to make 1kk a day buying and selling Blacksmith mats and pet pag hay/fruit/fungus

My income constantly dropped since the DQ items nerv...

Now I barey make 200k a day, thats just enough to bay the teleport/repair costs

DQ nerv ruined the economy badass!!!

Nice job PWE b:angry just go ahead and slap the hand that feeds you...

If pwi makes a new way to farm that gives some non-trade-able item such as badges, you're still not going to make money.

look at the beginner's forums.... the old 'how to save money' guide has been replaced with a merching guide. b:lipcurl

karmelia wrote: »

Bump, so our great CM don't forget about this.

Not forgotten!

The coin farming system should be out within the next couple of weeks.

- Val

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

So when we get the update that will likely re-break things like PvP in SP, and other classic content.

And "coin farming"? Really? Just fix the damn prices back to how they were and start working on fixing the bots by actually having more GM's available to monitor and perma-ban. (None of that temporary ****.)

Honestly, i'm thinking the next content update will nerf what remaining dqs that are worth farming to 1 coin each also. I really hope i am wrong... but i think it will come soon. b:sad