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Zolor - Harshlands wrote: »

Long, it's clear that it annoys you how a faction that losses so much TW isn't falling apart, isn't just disappearing. I guarantee you that if Dark starts losing its lands or gets wiped off the map it will lose a lot of its members and probably disappear.

No see, that right there is what annoys me. You see how you took it and gave it a spin and a tone that compliments Mayhem? That's what I don't like. People convincing themselves that **** isn't **** and clinging onto that ****.


I'm annoyed because....

Let's get real here. Every person that plays this game likes to believe that they're a cut-above the average player. Many people believe themselves to be the best of their class, a lot want to be one of them best and even some more humble players STILL like to think they're above average in skill. Very, very few people don't care about how skilled they're perceived, by comparison. That's simply the way this game works.

What I see with Mayhem is that very attitude that EVERYONE has, the difference being that Mayhem doesn't have any accomplishments to back up that claim. It's plain as day, it's black and white. Your guild is riddled with people like Adal who make wild claims like Mayhem's teamwork and coordination being "light years" ahead of Dark's, yet you have NOTHING to back up that claim. Literally jack **** to show for all your years of experience. It's quite impressive how bad Mayhem has managed to be after all these years. And look, I could compliment you guys and say you're still way better than Omerta....but why bother? At the end of the day it's irrelevant, because once the map starts getting crowded, Mayhem and Omerta and Deicide and several others always disappear into obscurity, because you're literally leagues behind Crimson and Infamous to the point of not standing a fat chance in hell.

And yet you go on. And yet Mayhem is recruiting people "for TW" every new season, you're always on the map trying to grab land and, whether you want to be referred to as one or not, all the little nablets on the server do list Mayhem when they name TW factions.


What bothers me about it is this: It's a universal complaint of Harshlands that nothing ever changes with the TW season. Every flippin' season we have Crimson and Infamous at the top, with MAYBE one other guild able to compete (Kylin). I've complained about it, Adal has complained about it, Infamous members themselves have complained about it. Infamous will often point the finger at smaller guilds saying they should learn to TW, smaller guilds point the finger at Infamous and say they should disband and disperse so other guilds have a chance.

The truth is? We're all equally guilty for the stagnation of power we see on our server, because none of us are willing to change.

HOWEVER...

Infamous and Crimson don't change for obvious reasons: greed and the power drive they get from being the strongest. There's financial benefit and ego boosts to be gained from staying together. Staying together for them is logically beneficial, and that's exactly why they do it and exactly why we will NEVER see these two guilds simply disappear until their very leaders are finally bored with the game.

Mayhem? Omerta? Deicide? Such factions are back every season, and you never make progress. Ever. And unlike Crimson and Infamous, you HAVE no logical benefit from staying together. Maybe you have lots of friends in Mayhem and you don't wanna miss out on talking to them every day, but there are multiple other factions that would be willing to take entire friendship circles, so this isn't actually an issue, even if you perceive it to be.

So what keeps you together? I've been asking for pages now, so have wampirewoman and a couple others, yet there's no answer. And if it's a PvE answer, why recruit as though you're a TW faction? You're not, so kindly stop.


What bothers me is what I know the answer to be: that your leaders are too egotistical and stubborn to admit they ****ing suck. They're too proud to step down, and are much happier to constantly lead an army to their doom time and time again than swallow that pride and admit they've been wasting everyone's time. That's pathetic. A leader is supposed to be responsible for their members, and yet I see you guys trying the same thing over and over and over again, oblivious to the fact that your leadership has no clue what it's doing and is simply too proud to admit they're not the greatest leader that ever existed.
And in the process, Mayhem builds up a false reputation of being a "srs TW faction" simply because they ARE on the map and that means something for players with little to no TW experience, people continue to apply to Mayhem and TW with them, they learn all the wrong lessons and tactics, 90% of the server continues to suck balls, Crimson and Infamous dominate because they're the only ones with their heads on straight, the cycle continues.


That's my problem with Mayhem and some others. I just find it absolutely pathetic that the leadership can't figure out it doesn't know wtf it's doing (or rather refuses to admit it out of pure ego), and it hurts the server as a whole.

Is Mayhem solely responsible for all the poor TWs on the server? No, again as I said, we're all responsible for the stagnation of the server's TWs in our own little way. However, it certainly doesn't help that yes, Mayhem does have good members here and there that could be helpful to other TW factions (or hell, maybe one of your random members is actually a far more competent leader than whoever the hell is leading right now), but instead they sit in Mayhem having their ability wasted away on a faction that doesn't stand a chance.


However, the reason I'm here pounding all the faults of Mayhem into your heads? It's because you can't give me a good justification why. If I were to give this same speech to Infamous about how they're equally responsible for the stagnation of the server, they could respond with "ya but we're making profit and why should we have to lose profit because everyone else is dumb." Bam, end of discussion.

But when I give it to Mayhem? We just have myself, wampirewoman and many others repeatedly asking the "why" of it and receiving no answer. We just get Adal trying to shift the discussion to how much of a ***** I am with you re-wording the situation in a way that compliments Mayhem.

Adal himself said a page or so back that he thinks I'm egotistical and that annoys him. I'm not here to debate on if I'm egotistical or not, but we CAN agree that giant egos can be annoying. And that's exactly why I'm annoyed. Because when I see Mayhem, I see nothing but a failure guild with a leadership filled with egos too large to admit it and step down.

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

No guild on server has been ever as strong as Zulu, Catalyst, and Infamous. Do you see them all disbanding?

No other guilds have ever been allowed to grow because we have multiple 3rd rate guilds that prey on all the new ones that sprout up before they have a chance to build up.

Do you remember how Kylin fell apart when they lost their lands to Zulu? Is this what you want? Whole server in 2 guilds? Everyone that is r9 is suppose to join one guild and everyone else can just sit aside?

And what does this existence of Mayhem do? What purpose does it serve? You guys can't hope to be anything but a bigger guild's stack b****. Is that all you want to be?

Long you are obviously hypocrite for multiple reasons. As nurfed said you asked guilds to stack someone, when I try to do it then I am gutless. You say you don't want to disclose oh those super plans of Dark, but you ask me to do the same?

The difference is that my stack ****ing worked, yours doesn't. That stack I took part in had Infamous effectively gone from the server for half a TW season. It made a difference. Mayhem's stacks are a pathetic attempt to cling onto the map instead of admit you guys don't stand a chance in hell against serious TW factions.

Give me the names of those Mayhem members that are so eager to recruit you???!!! That talk about w/e the hell you are saying they are talking about honor respect and w/e lol. Give me names cuz I don't believe anyone would be dumb enough to try to recruit your hypocrite trolling face into anything except circus

Re-read. I said I typically avoid attempting to recruit Mayhem members because half of them give me this pretentious little speech about how Dark has no honor and therefore they would never lower themselves to joining Dark. Which is pretty odd given that we're much better off than Mayhem is.

And I still find it both pathetic and delusional of you to refer to me as an idiot or that recruiting me is dumb when I'm that guy that's been responsible for half of Dark's leadership in every single war you've lost to us, and I'm in charge of the squad that often solos your entire offensive push.

Again, you wanna talk trash? Back it up. That's the problem with Mayhem: it can't because it has no accomplisments.

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

Specially not because some semi amater Psy wants me to.

>semi "amater" Psy
>Second highest kill count amongst Psys across all servers

Ya seems legit.

I don't need your respect or your approval, so you are delusional one. Dark is here today, tomorrow they are gone. We are here to stay. Deal with it, no one will disband guild because your trolling highness think we should.

And that's something to be proud of? That you guys are the most stubborn guild on the server, too stubborn to abandon a sinking ship?

Btw you wanna know my personal goal? Find you outside safe zone without bunch of your buddies and nurf you back to level one. Only thing bigger then your long is your mouth and everyone is ****** tired of listening to you.

If you actually had any PK experience you'd know Psys are a pain in the *** for wizzies 1v1....

Like I said, go accomplish something and go get experience with PVP. All this empty talk it exactly the problem with Mayhem.

Zolor - Harshlands wrote: »

can do about it except keep attacking their lands every time they get on the map.

and stop making it sound like a faction can only be a TW power house or a PvE faction. I can only speak for myself but like I said before I want to participate in TWs and I want to win too, but am I not allowed to try and achieve this in mayhem ?

You are, but after three years of failure it's time to enstate something called the "slaughter rule." For example if Sacrament were to try and be a serious TW faction next season (since this season they kinda boxed in and left alone), by all means, more power to them. The difference is that Sacrament is fairly new to the TW scene, and if they're infact good at it and better than Mayhem or Omerta when given a chance, they're exactly what this server needs; that'd be a breath of fresh air.
I like small guilds that are new. Those are new faces attempting to lead TW, and surely one will come along that actually knows how to lead and'll be decent at TW. I don't like Mayhem, Omerta or Deicide because they've spent years failing time and time again, and yet can be found on worldchat advertising themselves as a serious TW faction periodically. Instead of stepping down and giving new leaders a try, they desperately cling to their worthless titles of being successful 3rd rate factions.


Instead we've got a legion of Mayhem who say they have a right to have fun by being slaughtered, incapable of answering objectively, constantly turning the question around on me and making it about why I care instead of truly asking yourselves what purpose Mayhem serves. Now we're hearing "fun," which is a given with any person that plays this game, but I don't see you guys having a lot of fun when there's accusations of firework hacking etc. Furthermore, I promise you people in Sacrament, Dark, Infamous, Crimson etc are having fun too, so it's not like fun is Mayhem-exclusive, so that's not a very good reason at all, is it? Hell, if you want fun TWs, go join CrimsonJr. Pretty sure anyone on the server, both within CJr and the guilds we've fought, will tell you we've got the most fun TWs.

Not all ppl play just to win there are still many things you can enjoy in game

Yes, but if that's the case then please don't advertise yourselves as a TW faction constantly and then complain the server never changes, because you're part of the problem if you do because you're luring dozens of applicants to come join a sinking ship (TW-wise) instead of trying out one that's still floating, teaching them all the wrong ways to TW. Before I get a dozen or so "I never complained!11!" answers, some of you have, Adal included. This is addressed to them.