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Longknife - Harshlands

RebeI - Harshlands wrote: »

-insert gif of banging head against a wall-

so he says being 1 shot is a bad argument, right?
then he says not to use DB but use a 2 spark skill that can kill people, right?
then he says I used a 2 spark skill but didn't kill him, right?

so how is not being 1 shot a good argument? that's just focusing on gear too, which is one reason why he said Adal's argument was a bad one.

If thats not hypocrisy then I don't know what is

No, re-read his post, re-check the clip.

He's absolutely right about my point. My point is Adal went for me and me alone (Kazu happened by) when a giant cluster of people was right nearby. I didn't tank his hit, I Psy willed to resist it. That wasn't gear tanking his hit, that was me doing my damned job.

That's my point, he missed an opportunity to AOE a big group and instead had his character stare mine in the face and big surprise, I saw that as an indicator I should Psy will. A Psy might not see it coming in a group, but when it's literally just you and the wiz, yes we'll react to that. Go back and watch for yourself, at 8:55 in my vid. You'll see "Resist" pop up over my head.


It's nothing to do with gear, it's all about your skills and knowing how to utilize them, and using a wizzie ulti on a single Psy rather than a big group of people adjacent to the Psy is not the proper way to utilize an ulti, and sure enough both Kazu and I tank it, Kazu because he used BT and that's half physical, myself because I had Adal's character staring straight at me announcing "you should probably Psy will right now," so I did. He wasted his AOE both on a risky target and a lone target.

Cytte - Harshlands

RebeI - Harshlands wrote: »

-insert gif of banging head against a wall-

so he says being 1 shot is a bad argument, right?
then he says not to use DB but use a 2 spark skill that can kill people, right?
then he says I used a 2 spark skill but didn't kill him, right?

so how is not being 1 shot a good argument? that's just focusing on gear too, which is one reason why he said Adal's argument was a bad one.

If thats not hypocrisy then I don't know what is

Found it
No he said calling someone a bad player because they got 1-shot (because of gear alone) is not a valid argument

Yes because using 1 spark and dying without killing anyone is a bad option while using 2 sparks, killing a few people and living to do so again is a good option

No he was talking about Adal and how he, for whatever reason attacked long instead of the group.

bad choices make a bad player, not gear

Not hypocritical

Sometimes I wonder if I'm bad at English when i cant get points like that across

Adalgiso - Harshlands

Long buddy, would you care to reply:

To Long, since you claim you are so eager to have good even fights in TW, how come Dark goes for mayhem who are idiots that can't do anything right? Why don't you go for Crimson? Why don't you go for Infamous? Why don't you go for deicide maybe they know something?

Longknife - Harshlands

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

Long buddy, would you care to reply:

To Long, since you claim you are so eager to have good even fights in TW, how come Dark goes for mayhem who are idiots that can't do anything right? Why don't you go for Crimson? Why don't you go for Infamous? Why don't you go for deicide maybe they know something?

You do realize I've led Crimson-****ing-Jr against Omerta?

Don't give me a lecture about not going for tough fights, got a whole channel filled with CJr wars where we were easily outgeared and outnumbered. I don't lead Dark nor do I make the calls; I just lead defense. Either way I promise you Dark leadership is just looking out for money so our people can be funded, and I have to say Dark is easily the fairest guild I've seen with guild funds, as many other guilds simply suck up all the funds and reserve them solely for the leader and the leader's favorite friends. Everyone they've funded thusfar has shown a significant effort on their own to gear up, then has been complimented with a little help from guild funds to help them reach their goal. I've got my r9 belt after getting the ring and armor myself, Doom's got his full armor set after getting the ring and two armor pieces.

Oh and just because you keep mentioning Deicide; Deicide's just lucky we've been too busy with you guys, now they have their own little corner to chill out in. No alliance or agreement or anything, they just got lucky enough to be under the radar. Now they have four lands, so good for them.

Zolor - Harshlands

It's a fact that Dark out gears and/or out skills Mayhem, yet we are fighting and the last few wars have lasted much longer than the wars before them, so we must be doing something right ? Or wait, is it Dark that is doing something wrong or wait maybe you are letting us have a little fun or maybe you have another excuse.

Also Long, all this **** you talk about saying that we think that "we are the destined children to someday take over the server!" you hear from so many of us. I have never heard anyone say this. But maybe there are people like that, that say stuff that make their faction look like a bunch of idiots with their fingers up their own butts, people like yourself Long. When you win it is because you are skilled and when you lose it is because you are having fun.

Anyone can join Dark and claim to be a winner.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Zolor - Harshlands wrote: »

When you win it is because you are skilled and when you lose it is because you are having fun.

When did we lost?
I don't remember Dark losing.

Longknife - Harshlands

Zolor - Harshlands wrote: »

It's a fact that Dark out gears and/or out skills Mayhem, yet we are fighting and the last few wars have lasted much longer than the wars before them, so we must be doing something right ? Or wait, is it Dark that is doing something wrong or wait maybe you are letting us have a little fun or maybe you have another excuse.

Also Long, all this **** you talk about saying that we think that "we are the destined children to someday take over the server!" you hear from so many of us. I have never heard anyone say this. But maybe there are people like that, that say stuff that make their faction look like a bunch of idiots with their fingers up their own butts, people like yourself Long. When you win it is because you are skilled and when you lose it is because you are having fun.

Anyone can join Dark and claim to be a winner.

Trust me, your members do. Won't name names but I've messaged a couple offering recruitment and I get speeches about how great Mayhem is and how much "honor" they have and random BS like that. Roll my eyes every time.


And no, we don't make excuses. Last week we did terribad. We won and our defense basically could AFK your offense still, but our offense obviously couldn't get in your base. It was a disgrace, and I'm sorry but that was all us, not you. People weren't organizing and people were just everywhere. We yelled at people, organized back up and treated it seriously and ta-da, we're back. Hell, in my vid you can see me call out both Alastar and Kazuma for not doing their jobs. The difference is that when I call out Kazuma or Alastar on mistakes they made, they recognize them, accept them as mistakes and improve on them.

EVERYONE makes mistakes. The difference between winners and losers is that winners learn from their mistakes and losers do not.

That's my point: we make a mistake, we admit it. You can see in Doom's thread I ask if any other Psys ever buff him. You know why? Because I plan to talk to people about it, because they SHOULD be buffing them when they have a chance but apparently they're not.

But Mayhem just lost a stack with absolute ease, no stress whatsoever for us, with your catas dying within 30 seconds flat while you fail to take out any base towers when only 30 or 40 of us are there to defend, and what do I see?

Adalsigo believes Mayhem is light years more organized than Dark.
Rebel is trying to defend what's a bad tactic instead of accepting that it's bad.
The video shows people in your guild chat accusing us of cheating "like hell" because a squad of us launched fireworks.
You (Adal) accuse Dark of having Infamous alts to win for us when infact not a single Infamous alt was in that TW, and even if they were to show, we have like two of them.
And I hear no response to my other list of criticisms for random people.




Here's a bit of advice: When I insult Mayhem? Not neccesarily a bad thing, yknow? I'm giving you guys good advice here, I'm not BSing you or dissing your mothers. This is real advice and criticism I'm posting. No, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it and say "awww nice try guys, I bet you do better next week! " when your guild is 3 ****ing years old and it's still 3rd rate, but I AM giving you advice through criticism. You can sit there and cry about how mean my tone was when I said it, or you can actually focus on what's being said.
And you'll notice I hadn't started in with it until Adal posted. You know why? Because while I disagree with Rebel, at least he's constructively attempting to defend his tactic. Adal on the other hand just wreaks of that same delusional attitude I've seen from Mayhem over the years. That attitude needs to be lit on fire and thrown off a cliff if your guild is ever gonna change.

But nah, instead I'm hearing "your goals aren't our goals!!11" with nothing but silence when I ask wtf ARE Mayhem's goals then. Obviously winning and improving aren't on the list.

kingryan2

Here's a bit of advice: When I insult Mayhem? Not neccesarily a bad thing, yknow? I'm giving you guys good advice here, I'm not BSing you or dissing your mothers. This is real advice and criticism I'm posting.

What's this?

Blah Blah Dark Blah Mayhem Blah Blah TW Vid Blah Blah Blah

RebeI - Harshlands

kingryan2 wrote: »

What's this?

I'm guessing it's Long's way of sarcastically titling a thread with blah blah being the replacement of the time/date etc that is normally put into a title of a TW thread, because he has made many videos and probably felt like making it different, randomly? xD

RebeI - Harshlands

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

Rebel is trying to defend what's a bad tactic instead of accepting that it's bad.

I admit it's not the best of tactics, it may well be bad, but I did it and included it on the video anyway. :P was one of those instinctive things you just get the urge to do - so it didn't work amazingly, oh wellll, I can try other stuff next war

Alastar - Harshlands

B towers are tricky man. Trickyyyyyyyy. Did you know there's not one, but THREE types of towers? I made the executive decision (Executor pun. We get joke books according to our faction rank) to not build a tower since I couldn't decide which type. (Actually I just forgot). But still, tricky. Next time I build towers I expect vent to be filled with, "ALASTAR, DON'T FORGET TO BUILD THE FU.CKING B GATE TOWERS LIKE LAST WEEK." This is my formal repentance, I'm sorry for not building those towers. Armani don't kick me, and don't give my job to Kazuma. I would post on our forums, but we have like 8 people there to read it apparently.

Doom_Panda - Harshlands

alastar - Harshlands wrote: »

b Towers Are Tricky Man. Trickyyyyyyyy. Did You Know There's Not One, But Three Types Of Towers? I Made The Executive Decision (executor Pun. We Get Joke Books According To Our Faction Rank) To Not Build A Tower Since I Couldn't Decide Which Type. (actually I Just Forgot). But Still, Tricky. Next Time I Build Towers I Expect Vent To Be Filled With, "alastar, Don't Forget To Build The Fu.cking B Gate Towers Like Last Week." This Is My Formal Repentance, I'm Sorry For Not Building Those Towers. Armani Don't Kick Me, And Don't Give My Job To Kazuma. I Would Post On Our Forums, But We Have Like 8 People There To Read It Apparently.

Alastar, Don't Forget To Build The ****ing B Gate Towers Like Last Week!!!

Longknife - Harshlands

Alastar - Harshlands wrote: »

B towers are tricky man. Trickyyyyyyyy. Did you know there's not one, but THREE types of towers? I made the executive decision (Executor pun. We get joke books according to our faction rank) to not build a tower since I couldn't decide which type. (Actually I just forgot). But still, tricky. Next time I build towers I expect vent to be filled with, "ALASTAR, DON'T FORGET TO BUILD THE FU.CKING B GATE TOWERS LIKE LAST WEEK." This is my formal repentance, I'm sorry for not building those towers. Armani don't kick me, and don't give my job to Kazuma. I would post on our forums, but we have like 8 people there to read it apparently.

This reminds me how ****ing bull Dark's officer system is because I'm pretty sure I do more for Dark than half of our officers combined.

But it makes for a funny inside joke where people yell at me for not having a vent account, not having their app moved for voting by me or being assigned to the Brazilian squad, then they find out I can't do jack about it nor am I responsible because I'm actually not an officer, so I like it cuz it's lulzy.
We could turn it into a game. Give officer rankings to random members so people have to really hunt for the real ones with any actual power to do whatever it is they need done.

Alastar - Harshlands

Also, not to point fingers, but clearly RebeI is the biggest hacker in Dark vs. Mayhem wars. Level 100 (the forums told me so!) and he has Rank 9? I call major shenanigans on this good sir, and I expect to see you in TT99, Event, Rank 8, Nirv1, Nirv2, or Nirv3 level gear next TW. Good day to you all!

And sparklecat for Marshal!

Longknife - Harshlands

Alastar - Harshlands wrote: »

And sparklecat for Marshal!

sparklecat for Director.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

What about me?

I got the last kill on Rebel I demand a promotion!

Doom_Panda - Harshlands

Alastar - Harshlands wrote: »

Also, not to point fingers, but clearly RebeI is the biggest hacker in Dark vs. Mayhem wars. Level 100 (the forums told me so!) and he has Rank 9? I call major shenanigans on this good sir, and I expect to see you in TT99, Event, Rank 8, Nirv1, Nirv2, or Nirv3 level gear next TW. Good day to you all!

And sparklecat for Marshal!

No i'm the biggest hacker... Lvl 94 with R9. (According to the forums.)

Alastar - Harshlands

My apologies for publicly slandering your name RebeI, and thank you for notifying me of my error Doom. Still RebeI, get level appropriate gear you hacker!

As for you Doom, in light of recent revelations (94 with r9 gear wtf) I'm submitting a ticket to ban you. For too long have you interfered with my catshop. For too long has Sage BIDS not proc'd on you. For too long have you been a panda. This ends now.

Doom_Panda - Harshlands

Alastar - Harshlands wrote: »

My apologies for publicly slandering your name RebeI, and thank you for notifying me of my error Doom. Still RebeI, get level appropriate gear you hacker!

As for you Doom, in light of recent revelations (94 with r9 gear wtf) I'm submitting a ticket to ban you. For too long have you interfered with my catshop. For too long has Sage BIDS not proc'd on you. For too long have you been a panda. This ends now.

b:shocked OH SNAP!

Cytte - Harshlands

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

sparklecat for Director.

Cytte for dark member b:mischievous b:avoid, Kiddng though, I cant play often enough that I'd be of use.


hax everywhere

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Cytte ♥ b:flower ♥

Adalgiso - Harshlands

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

You do realize I've led Crimson-****ing-Jr against Omerta?

Don't give me a lecture about not going for tough fights, got a whole channel filled with CJr wars where we were easily outgeared and outnumbered. I don't lead Dark nor do I make the calls; I just lead defense. Either way I promise you Dark leadership is just looking out for money so our people can be funded, and I have to say Dark is easily the fairest guild I've seen with guild funds, as many other guilds simply suck up all the funds and reserve them solely for the leader and the leader's favorite friends. Everyone they've funded thusfar has shown a significant effort on their own to gear up, then has been complimented with a little help from guild funds to help them reach their goal. I've got my r9 belt after getting the ring and armor myself, Doom's got his full armor set after getting the ring and two armor pieces.

Oh and just because you keep mentioning Deicide; Deicide's just lucky we've been too busy with you guys, now they have their own little corner to chill out in. No alliance or agreement or anything, they just got lucky enough to be under the radar. Now they have four lands, so good for them.

This is not what Deicide is saying tbh. I asked them to stack Dark with us. Answer was "We have a deal, they don't touch us, we don't touch them." So one of you guys is lying. Which one? Because honestly we can't really ask Crimson to help with stacking Infamous or Dark, they won't do it. So you ask guilds that are less in strenght but can still provide some bodies for TW. But when they say "no no no we can't do this" Well then makes me wonder. Is your leader keeping you in dark? Because you come here, you talk about everything spit and mock everyone, Mr. know it all aren't you.

But then you see its not really like that. You want fun TW's but you go for mayhem that are idiots. Why, well you don't know, you are not leader. I guess you are just big mouth on forums. You say you have no deal wtih Deicide, how the hell would you know you just said you are not leader officer or anything else.

Honestly Long I think people are getting little fed up with your arrogant self proclaimed God attitude. IF you want to give someone advice you don't have to walk over him in process of doing it.

Cya have fun, and in game

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

This is not what Deicide is saying tbh. I asked them to stack Dark with us. Answer was "We have a deal, they don't touch us, we don't touch them." So one of you guys is lying. Which one? Because honestly we can't really ask Crimson to help with stacking Infamous or Dark, they won't do it. So you ask guilds that are less in strenght but can still provide some bodies for TW. But when they say "no no no we can't do this" Well then makes me wonder. Is your leader keeping you in dark? Because you come here, you talk about everything spit and mock everyone, Mr. know it all aren't you.

Cya have fun, and in game

Haahahahaha!!! Mayhem organize? You guys need to ask people to stack us??? And still cannot beat us???

Adalgiso - Harshlands

Ummm. Do you even realize how stupid your post is?

Ok lets see. How else do you propose to organize stacking? Telepathically? Of course I talked to other factions. Sadly, only watchers aren't sold souls, gutless or cowards. How else would someone arrange stacking unless you TALK to other factions?

Longknife - Harshlands

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

This is not what Deicide is saying tbh. I asked them to stack Dark with us. Answer was "We have a deal, they don't touch us, we don't touch them." So one of you guys is lying. Which one? Because honestly we can't really ask Crimson to help with stacking Infamous or Dark, they won't do it. So you ask guilds that are less in strenght but can still provide some bodies for TW. But when they say "no no no we can't do this" Well then makes me wonder. Is your leader keeping you in dark? Because you come here, you talk about everything spit and mock everyone, Mr. know it all aren't you.

But then you see its not really like that. You want fun TW's but you go for mayhem that are idiots. Why, well you don't know, you are not leader. I guess you are just big mouth on forums. You say you have no deal wtih Deicide, how the hell would you know you just said you are not leader officer or anything else.

No, I know exactly what's going on, but I'm not stupid enough to come on these forums and post everything Dark is planning and doing. But thanks for confirming that Deicide is trustworthy. Part of the reason they're still on the map and you're not. Though I can at least warn you that based on our reasons for attacking Mayhem, I sincerely doubt you'll see Mayhem left alone by major factions in any of the coming TW seasons. You've made yourselves a giant helpless target for bigger guilds to snack on until they fight each other, whether you realize it or not.

Honestly Long I think people are getting little fed up with your arrogant self proclaimed God attitude. IF you want to give someone advice you don't have to walk over him in process of doing it.

As I said, if you wanna hear advice in a nicer, friendlier tone, don't suck *** and utterly fail for 3 ****ing years straight. It's blatantly obvious that whoever you guys have leading TWs can't lead TWs, and yet they still have that job. I've asked why you guys stay in Mayhem, since any "family" or whatever can simply be transferred over to another guild, but all I got was "UR GOALS AREN'T OUR GOALS" with no specification as to what goals Mayhem actually has.

I just hear excuses for failure, honestly, and I'm so hostile towards them because I'm constantly hearing delusional statements from Mayhem, such as having teamwork "light years ahead" of that of Dark, or not wanting to join a guild "without honor." It reminds me of Isabella calling CJr a non-factor and an absolute joke. Time rolls around that CJr finally shows to an Omerta war, and Omerta is suddenly silent and humble. It's because guilds like Omerta and Mayhem are all fantasy, no reality. I mean kudos to Omerta for simply being humbled about it instead of getting angry and talking trash, but beforehand? Oh yeah, their leader thought they were amazing. Mayhem is much the same, thinking they have a future and that they're well organized and that they'll improve with time (after three years of no improvement). No, no you won't, and I'll be here stomping on your hopes and dreams until you realize that they're just that: dreams. I do it because I want the damned server to move on, and it's kind of hard to move on when the server has 2-3 guilds that can't realize or admit that it just isn't working out for them and their leader sucks balls. Leaders, in my experience with this game, are typically simply the most arrogant, egotistical players that need a fancy title to make them feel special and powerful; not so much the people that are truly good at leading. While this applies to every guild, it's especially pathetic for guilds like Mayhem, because every week you guys have reality knocking at your door saying your guild sucks *** at TW, and yet you stay together.

It annoys me because people like yourself just wanna sit in your corner and fantasize about how great and amazing you are, then when someone rolls around to knock a sense of reality back into you, you scream and cry and moan about how mean they are. I mean prime example here: you guys stacked us and you're sitting here asking why we bid on you and why we're being such jerks about winning. It's because we know about the delusional little thoughts about how you guys could win with ease after Dark sucked *** last week. No, you did good because Dark sucked ***, not because you actually improved. And part of the reason Dark sucked *** is a combination of arrogance with not building towers, not seperating into different vent channels, and people just plain not listening to orders for whatever reason. If you think Wytche was the only reason we were any good, then it only speaks volumes about how naive you guys are, because believe it or not, no, TW isn't about gear; teamwork is more important. CrimsonJr has proven this time and time and time and time again.



Long story short? Stop whining. You want me to talk more respectfully to you? Earn it. Stop sucking ***, then I will. I trolled Bloodline, Afterlife and Omerta when CJr beat them, yknow who I didn't troll? Watchers, because they actually gave us one hell of a fight. They were organized, they could TW and they knew the basics. They lost, but they did well. But there's a massive difference between a tiny guild that only TWs for fun and has organization and a big-named faction that's been TRYING to get a foothold on the map for THREE YEARS and still can't do it. It's pathetic, so I'll keep pointing out how pathetic it is and I'll keep asking why you guys don't bother moving your little circles of friends to other factions under new leadership. Sorry to haunt you with reality.

Cytte - Harshlands

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Cytte ♥ b:flower ♥

Bella Bella

Longknife - Harshlands

Adalgiso - Harshlands wrote: »

Ok lets see. How else do you propose to organize stacking? Telepathically? Of course I talked to other factions. Sadly, only watchers aren't sold souls, gutless or cowards. How else would someone arrange stacking unless you TALK to other factions?

>Implying Mayhem isn't gutless cowards for relying on a stack to win.

Nurfed_You - Harshlands

Trying to get guilds to stack a guild you can't beat 1v1 is just tactics long. You yourself have made posts trying to get the server to stack both catalyst at one point and crimosn. Because they couldnt be beat one on one. Slightly different concept, but the same tactic regardless.

On the flip side, if your going to get guilds to stack someone. Don't try to act like you didn't have a hand in it.

+1 for Mayhem disbanding. Back when the game was young if you lost 2-3 tw's in a row half of your guild would quit and go make/join a new guild. You guys have been losing for years, either someone needs to step up and take lead of a failing guild or just disband. There are quite a few decent players in Mayhem, theres a lot of potentially good players in Mayhem. I'm not trying to talk down to you guys, but something major needs to change with you guys.

Zolor - Harshlands

Long, it's clear that it annoys you how a faction that losses so much TW isn't falling apart, isn't just disappearing. I guarantee you that if Dark starts losing its lands or gets wiped off the map it will lose a lot of its members and probably disappear.

Maybe to a lot of Mayhem members, losing TW is not a reason for them to leave Mayhem. Maybe Different people have different things they want from a game and as you and everyone have mentioned, it is just a game.

And all these people that you say are delusional thinking Mayhem is destined to be something or do something, this situation doesn't need your "...be here stomping on your hopes and dreams" speech, because now it really does sound like a 3rd rate anime.

I think Mayhem can beat Dark, maybe I'm delusional maybe it's just a dream but i don't understand why it pisses you off so much...did someone stomp on your dreams as a little kid?

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands

I always thought that a TW faction that suck at TW should disband or stop TW and be a PVE faction, there's nothing bad about be PVE faction, but claim to be a TW when they suck at it is... meh doesn't give a good reputation.