Assassins what pisses you guys off or just annoys you when in a squad?

Colum - Raging Tide · November 2012

When I get asked to help in 59 with my lvl 82 sin who has 6,3k HP with barb buff (pure dex build though) and the barb of the squad has around same HP at lvl 70. Barb cannot hold flesh realm (he QQed about chi) and I kept stoling aggro no matter what (chill of the deep, skill spam, no sparking, whatever). I suggest I tank the bosses and he devours and DDs. Barb refuses and I ended up using bow (and stealing aggro with it) while poor cleric tries to handle the aggo ping pong.

Sigh.

y4kuzi · November 2012

BMs that run into a group of mobs and start to use HF when DDs aren't there yet
Someone using Extreme Poison after Subsea Strike
BM not saying before using HF so nobody sparks
BMs that never/barely use HF on bosses, instead just going afk APSing
Barbs/Archers using that AOE knockback while trying to AOE in the middle of the group
Or Mystics using Thicket/Gale Force on a group of mobs
Sins not knowing what detection level is (Some certain Lv104 Sin on Lost City, starting with "_A"
People not informing newbies of important stuff in instances
Clerics using Blessing of the Purehearted as primary heal, including 9x Clerics
Clerics using BB on AOE sleep/silence bosses
Clerics not using Chromatic Healing Beam. Instead, using Wellspring Surge to heal 1 by 1
Clerics not using Purify when being badly poisoned
People with Lv10 buffs overwriting Lv11 buffs after clearly asking them not to
Or Cleric giving 30m buffs when you have 1h buffs
People not reading squad chat, or going afk all the time during instances
Mystics not using Salvation/healing herbs to support tank
Psychics/Wizards using AOE skills when the tank doesn't have aggro yet
Melee classes using bow on Harpy's in Frost while someone trying to lower them for melee attacks
People claiming HF and BB stacks
People not bringing bows to big room for heads
Barbs/BMs/Seekers that just go stand still waiting for the train or something, while they need to pull/attack boss
Seekers claiming that Heart Shatter also works with auto-attacks
People talking in broken English, or no English at all in squad
People standing all seperated at Dreadindra boss.

Absinda - Sanctuary · November 2012

Ok, so I normally multibox my Sin with a same-level cleric. From levels 70-79 I let the cleric tank all the bosses in BH59. They're all magic, so it made more sense for the cleric to do so because both characters could do damage. I setup appropriate macros for the cleric (one with purify for Drake and Glutt). Once the cleric kicked off her attack, I switched to my sin and attacked with a lower level bow. It worked very well, bosses were dispatched quickly enough, and neither character ever died.

Today, at level-82, I drew Gluttonix (59 instance) for a Divine quest. I thought WTH and went in to solo him. Had to use crabmeat at each cool down and my charm ticked a few times, but he was otherwise an easy and quick kill. I've got over 5K hp unbuffed and I'm 2.0 aps.

Guess this was a long way of commenting backhandedly on some earlier posts. Sins don't need to take aggro, even with a cleric tanking. When I go into random squads for BH69, I use Chill and ensure I keep Ribstrike up. If there's a higher level Sin in squad, I equip a level-6x bow. Having played clerics for many years, the last thing I want to do is cause the cleric in squad more of a headache by trying to play Rambo.

I don't have any particular gripes from a Sin perspective.

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear · November 2012

Other assassins who try to compete with me while i mind my own business and try to be productive in a squad. b:surrender

Tsyren - Archosaur · November 2012

Sin's that use nothing but autoattack in BH/FC/TT/other instances with mobs.

Yes, autoattack is pretty much the only NECESSITY... but is it really that hard to headhunt the mob that's about to 1shot the cleric? This applies to other aps classes too... Honestly I feel sometimes that I'm literally stunlocking several mobs at once just to keep the squad alive.

Azizsixer - Raging Tide · November 2012

Tsyren - Archosaur wrote: »

Sin's that use nothing but autoattack in BH/FC/TT/other instances with mobs.

Yes, autoattack is pretty much the only NECESSITY... but is it really that hard to headhunt the mob that's about to 1shot the cleric? This applies to other aps classes too... Honestly I feel sometimes that I'm literally stunlocking several mobs at once just to keep the squad alive.

This omg THIS!!! Its like you're a freaking sin...you have like what 2 stuns/1 silence/1sleep and a immobilize....PLEASE use it lol

I've seen clerics die so many times cuz a fish would rather aps the mob on the cleric rather than use one of the many control skills available to them -_-

*Personally always keep tele stun on cd in the event a squishy pulls a mob*

Although i hate when i normal jump to a mob freeze it and the cleric stands there expecting not to get hit...at least walk back 2m plz -_-

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver · December 2012

Agree with above post... Jesus use some skills and stop trying to be a hero. (rib strike for gods sake!)

Buff_me · December 2012

Not using rib strike when I am tanking.

Healing barb when I am tanking ><

Colum - Raging Tide · December 2012

Squadmembers telling you to STEALTH away from a lvl 150 boss.. yeah I wanna see that happen.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary · December 2012

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

Squadmembers telling you to STEALTH away from a lvl 150 boss.. yeah I wanna see that happen.

Used to be possible when Share the Stealth skill first came out as it gave 30 stealth levels in addition to the 131+ a level 100 sin would have, but they fixed it.

Colum - Raging Tide · January 2013

Other sins with TT 99 dags..........

Pwnallagain - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hokay...

If there are two sins in squad and one is obviously the tank, the other should rib strike.

Sins that refine for hp but leave their ornies/rings at +2

Barbs that Flesh Ream. Rather, Barbs that don't devour and spend their time doing other things like Flesh Reaming or auto attacking. Devour.

I was in a skype with a couple of friends, all of which have a ton of alts so we do like 4-5 BHs together each changing toons in between. The barb didn't know I was the sin during a Metal, and at the boss I grabbed aggro and he says "That stoopid sin. Taking Aggro on this boss" and people start laughing because he didn't know I was the sin. Ofc, tanked the boss and adv boss no problem. This "I R tank" mentality, or "sin's can't tank that" mentality annoys me. Same thing when you see a "We need a tank for xxxxx boss" and you pm 'sin' and they say "we need someone that can tank and ignore you. I know this is because so many sins fail at tanking (that same skype group has a 5.4k hp G16 sin...) but many of us also rock.

Delta 2 BH days... "Need aoe dd". I'm sorry, but I have a zerk weapon, Subsea, frenzy, Tangling Mire, Chill of the deep, and chi skills so that I can trip spark before using my two aoes and drop 40-120k bombs depending on the zerk. That's not the true for all sins, but getting rejected by squads because a. 'I'm not aoe dd' or b. 'we already have 1 sin' is ****. For about 20 seconds I out dd my G15 seeker and by then almost everything is dead. Delta 2 is pretty much soloable by anyone with decent gear and all these squad makers try to make the perfect squad "cleric, barb, seeker, bm, wizard, sin/archer/psy" for what amounts to about the same level of difficulty as BH59.

H&Ts on level 100s. H&Ts on level 95s, too, but it's hard convincing idiots to give up aps for dph and dps by going Pixie Piercers.

Sage sin's that don't rebuff revived squad mates while they say "paint please. Paint. Can I please get paint? Can you paint me?" and then absolutely flip when you overwrite their paint to buff the person who didn't have it. Should have paid attention.

BM's that can't time HF. If you're out dding your squadmates by 2:1, 4:1, 6:1... and they're not HFing your spark you should stop attacking the boss and stab them.

...think that about covers it for now.

I absolutely agree with everything stated by this intelligent person.

grayonly · January 2013

I am an veteran sin player from metin2 ( an other mmorpg ) i am playing sin now on PWI and i realy like it here

but i don`t know wat to do after i hit lvl 20, at some point the elder quest me to select an city ore something like that.. to lvl ..
but i don`t know wat to do next

I hope that you can help me

thanks!

SashaGray - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sage sin's that don't rebuff revived squad mates while they say "paint please. Paint. Can I please get paint? Can you paint me?" and then absolutely flip when you overwrite their paint to buff the person who didn't have it. Should have paid attention.

I'm surprised they, and you, and probably most of the other people playing, haven't realized that sage BP cant be overbuffed

Sakubatou - Sanctuary · January 2013

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm surprised they, and you, and probably most of the other people playing, haven't realized that sage BP cant be overbuffed

6 months ago I didn't know this, which is what you're reply too. I think I actually learned it in this thread.

Honestly, I don't notice a difference between sage paint and demon paint. My Sin has 8k hp so its filled up in a few second whether I use demon or sage. If I get hit for 2k damage and I'm attacking, it takes 100k damage to replace that or demon or 67k damage for sage. So the difference between 1 or 2 attacks at 5 aps, so .3 seconds difference between full hp if sage and full hp if demon.

grayonly wrote: »

I am an veteran sin player from metin2 ( an other mmorpg ) i am playing sin now on PWI and i realy like it here

but i don`t know wat to do after i hit lvl 20, at some point the elder quest me to select an city ore something like that.. to lvl ..
but i don`t know wat to do next

I hope that you can help me

thanks!

Best to start your own thread when LF help, rather than bury your question 164 posts into another thread with a different topic.

At level 20 you head to Archosaur to continue questing there. The Elder should have given you a teleport point in Archo to get you there. If you don't have it yet search around your Available Quests by hitting "q" and selecting the Available Quest tab. Archo will have plenty of quests for players level 20-40.

opkossy · January 2013

SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm surprised they, and you, and probably most of the other people playing, haven't realized that sage BP cant be overbuffed

Didn't I make a post about this a few months back? On more than one occasion? Figured it was mostly common knowledge by now for those who frequent the forums.

Though for the ones who don't, not surprised in the slightest since most nowadays don't pay attention to half their skills as is.

uncleblademaster · January 2013

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

When I get asked to help in 59 with my lvl 82 sin who has 6,3k HP with barb buff (pure dex build though) and the barb of the squad has around same HP at lvl 70. Barb cannot hold flesh realm (he QQed about chi) and I kept stoling aggro no matter what (chill of the deep, skill spam, no sparking, whatever). I suggest I tank the bosses and he devours and DDs. Barb refuses and I ended up using bow (and stealing aggro with it) while poor cleric tries to handle the aggo ping pong.

Sigh.

Your 82 sin has over 6.2k up with Barbs buff? O.o damn.. You got all 4 socket +4 and iMac Corrine's on your gear? God damn xD

Sakubatou - Sanctuary · January 2013

uncleblademaster wrote: »

Your 82 sin has over 6.2k up with Barbs buff? O.o damn.. You got all 4 socket +4 and iMac Citrine's on your gear? God damn xD

Thats only 4.8k unbuffed. Not too much hp. Actually, pretty standard for an 80s sin. And 80's barb should have around 12k hp.

uncleblademaster · January 2013

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thats only 4.8k unbuffed. Not too much hp. Actually, pretty standard for an 80s sin. And 80's barb should have around 12k hp.

My Sin is 81 and only almost 4.2k up unbuffed... That's why I assumed he extended all his gear sockets to 4 and put immaculate citrines in them. I wonder what his gear is like that his hp is that much higher..

Btw I'm on Archosaur server and here...that much hp on a 80s sin isn't exactly standard lol

opkossy · January 2013

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thats only 4.8k unbuffed. Not too much hp. Actually, pretty standard for an 80s sin. And 80's barb should have around 12k hp.

That's only standard for a good sin that has decent refines and/or shards.

For the vast majority, it's more like 2.7k-3.6k as standard HP. Which annoys me SO very much.

TexanTank - Raging Tide · January 2013

OPKossy wrote: »

That's only standard for a good sin that has decent refines and/or shards.

For the vast majority, it's more like 2.7k-3.6k as standard HP. Which annoys me SO very much.

My sin's current gear.
http://pwcalc.com/6054b5227cbf405b

Most of it is cheap and good enough to skip tt 70 and 80.

Nymphali - Dreamweaver · January 2013

To make me LEAVE squad it must be something REALLY nasty. I'm too patient.

But things I hate:
From casters, i hate when they knock back the mob I'm slaying; Hate when the BM HFs before anyone sparks (that part when the good sins are usually Rib Striking the boss...), Hate when a cleric gets heal aggro by healing me being that I'm yet losing my precious 3s sparking. Hate when the BM doesn't stun, Hate when the cleric doesn't heal, hate when the mystic doesn't know to pull with the pet and aggro's everything with nature's vengeance

All that stuff is crappy... I PM the mistaken person saying: "Bud, why don't you do this and that." or "Friend, can you please to this or that?". When I mistake i say: "Sorry guys, my fail! Don't freak on me."

I'm a so patient and educated person most of the time. But I know to be nasty too.

opkossy · January 2013

TexanTank - Raging Tide wrote: »

My sin's current gear.
http://pwcalc.com/6054b5227cbf405b

Most of it is cheap and good enough to skip tt 70 and 80.

Like I said. Decent refines/shards.

Now say you were one of the vast majority of those idiots that use a MP helm for who-knows-what reason? That alone drops you to just a bit above 4k with +3 and 2x flawless cits. Now if the rest of your gear was also bumped down to 2 flawless cits in each and we removed that tome giving you the extra HP that'd drop you down to... 3.6k HP.

And yet odds are you'd still be better than a fairly large portion of sins in that level range. Which is really sad when you think about it but ultimately the truth for how most of them treat their gear.

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver · January 2013

Oh god, so I started a wiz like 4 days ago (59 atm lol) and I run into SP to go to bh29. No one around to help (on same account as all my high lvls) so after 15 min this veno shows up and asks if I want help. I said yeah, them tells me she is there to help some other faction members. 40+ members show up, cleric, sin, bm and barb.

I'm like oh right we got us a squad. So right out the gate cleric is not healing and bm dies. Took 5 mins after asking multiple times to rez the damn guy. My charm was going crazy trying to dd and stay alive since cleric was dding :-\

Sin dies, veno dies, I die, and so does the cleric lol. At this point I'm telling and explaining each player how to play their class. I also ask how long they have been playing since they could be alts. The responses shocked me as some of them have been playing for a while.

So I tell veno to pull boss thru door and they all ignored what I said like I was talking a different language. Then after veno pulls one of the mobs by boss but doesn't put away pet so mobs aoe the **** out of everyone and cleric veno and sin die.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary · January 2013

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So I tell veno to pull boss thru door...

Might want to edit your posts where you suggest to do bannable offenses in the forums. Doors are there for a reason and not opening falls under TOS "playing the game in a manner other than it was intended".

I'm fine with clerics dding as long as they're keeping people healed, buffed, rezzed, etc. As a sin, I'm even more fine when a cleric phys debuffs a mob for me since I get alot more heals from that and things go quicker.

But when I have cleric's that want to be a dd cleric and is not healing I just stop attacking. Literally, I put myself on follow. When they wonder why I'm not doing my job and helping my squad I ask why they aren't doing theirs. I'll gladly dd/tank as long as they'll support me. The cleric quickly realizes having 4 dd's, a tank, and a cleric is better than them trying to solo dd, tank by themselves, and heal themselves.

MetzliDemon - Harshlands · January 2013

People that think ALL sins are stupid, noob, egocentric and arrogant... ._.

MetzliDemon - Harshlands · January 2013

SunDownXIII - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Right after cleric says and I quote "we are so pro!"

b:laugh
There was a good time when people did bh29 with a squad with lvl 40 chars. Bad is now most people at that lvl don't know how to play the char b:lipcurl b:sweat

Jesusisback - Raging Tide · January 2013

MetzliDemon - Harshlands wrote: »

People that think ALL sins are stupid, noob, egocentric and arrogant... ._.

Atleast 95% are ijs

Colum - Raging Tide · January 2013

uncleblademaster wrote: »

Your 82 sin has over 6.2k up with Barbs buff? O.o damn.. You got all 4 socket +4 and iMac Corrine's on your gear? God damn xD

To answer your question... (and sin is now 89 with 5,1k unbuffed) it has flawless/immac. shards in all gear, refine +3, Warsoul of Earth helmet, the protection necklace with 5%+ HP and 2 gold TT 80 pieces... I just didn't want to be a squishy noob and I want to survive from shades and tanking without problems. I take the tanking role when for example a FC squad has no barb.

Assassins what pisses you guys off or just annoys you when in a squad?

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