Assassins what pisses you guys off or just annoys you when in a squad?

Xainou - Sanctuary

Getting overpainted. Seriously, is it so hard to not paint when you see a sage sin in squad...?

Jesusisback - Raging Tide

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Getting overpainted. Seriously, is it so hard to not paint when you see a sage sin in squad...?

Last time I checked sage BP can't be over buffed by anything except Blood Frenzy. b:chuckle

truekossy

Jesusisback - Raging Tide wrote: »

Last time I checked sage BP can't be over buffed by anything except Blood Frenzy. b:chuckle

And demon bp.

Most people don't realize this somehow and whine about getting overbuffed when they actually aren't.

Suizahn - Sanctuary

I didn't completely get it, so Sage bp is overwritten by demon bp (second bp stays?) or sage bp always stays?
Or maybe like subsea and EP, first one stays?

truekossy

Level 11 bp of either culti overwrites the other (think a cleric using debuffs right after a demon ironwood proc)

Level 10 and below cannot overwrite level 11.

Azizsixer - Raging Tide

I honestly did nt knw this abt bp o,o

I wish the same were true for bm/barb buffs...I hate when i have a sage barb buff then get overwriten by a lvl 10 or below one

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

truekossy wrote: »

Level 11 bp of either culti overwrites the other (think a cleric using debuffs right after a demon ironwood proc)

Level 10 and below cannot overwrite level 11.

Didn't know this either, honestly.

But its also hard to tell level 10 vs lvl 11 until 31 minutes after it happens since it doesn't state how much paint you have. And you really wouldn't know since it'd stay on 60 minutes one way or the other.

I wish they had apoths for bloodpaint. Finding a sin when all you want is paint isn't always easy. I'm even noticing some sin hate for metal squads lately. Seen three squads that wouldn't bring a sin because "they steal aggro and die." This means no paint for the rest of the squad. Its squishy sins giving us bad names =/

Xainou - Sanctuary

* other sins who fail at doing their job
* aps > spark > aps > spark
* sins that don't bother ribstriking when there's no cleric and I'm clearly struggling tanking
* sins with less hp than me but +10 daggers or better
* sage sins that tell others to just get bp and they're fine without any other skills
* sins who can't hold back at all (I can't remember the last time I was in metal with another sin that didn't die at boss...)

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

* sins that don't bother ribstriking when there's no cleric and I'm clearly struggling tanking

When my bm is tanking, and even after repeatedly asking sins to rib strike, and they don't. I switch to this End game weapon, and take off my blessing. Rib strike comes on instantly. Basically sins who usually tank, find someone else is tanking, don't bother to rib. As a bm, i have lots of way to lose agro and survive 1~5 hits as i lose that agro. Sins don't have that luxury usually b:chuckle.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

When my bm is tanking, and even after repeatedly asking sins to rib strike, and they don't. I switch to this End game weapon, and take off my blessing. Rib strike comes on instantly. Basically sins who usually tank, find someone else is tanking, don't bother to rib. As a bm, i have lots of way to lose agro and survive 1~5 hits as i lose that agro. Sins don't have that luxury usually b:chuckle.

I love the "I can't tank, you tank" sins that then will shout "HF! HF?" against my BM. They want me to hold aggro and HF for them.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

I love the "I can't tank, you tank" sins that then will shout "HF! HF?" against my BM. They want me to hold aggro and HF for them.

Well, a lot of sins pretty much follow these rules:
1. Can't kill it? You don't have enough DPS.
2. Can't tank it? Get a barb to tank for you.
3. The barb doesn't get to tank because you steal aggro? See 1.

I've also seen a lot of sins that completely ignore their armor and ornament refines beyond +3-4. That's just hilarious. It's especially sad to see a sin with an R9 +10 weapon, all armors +10 with DoTs... and +3 ornaments.

I suppose I am one of the few sins who think that sins naturally have high DPS and improving on that is a secondary priority. Then again, I also rolled to sin after I got fed up of my archer being unable to do much on his own, so naturally armors and ornaments were a big thing for me.

Heck, I even went as far as to compare refining my ornaments against my armors to see which yields more HP.

Xainou - Sanctuary

Barbs with 14k hp in metal that wear physical ornaments.

He didn't hold agro for ****. He couldn't tank for ****. I already used chill and skill spam and still got agro. Even the damn archer with a bow pulled agro off him. Well ty for wasting my time in BH ...

Colum - Raging Tide

I just saw a cash shopper barb with PHYSICAL cube neck and warsong belt. I facedesked.

GL in Warsong.

DeepSilence - Dreamweaver

People that threatens you for no good reason, I always hate that.

Like I was just in a fc b/m/h squad (paid 250k fee) and the cleric died while we were doing the boss (he had like 100k or less left) and while we waiting for the cleric to return the barb was holding off the boss and he was getting his charm rapped so I decided to help him by doing a rib every 30 s (was on a 88 sin with crappy gear and weap)

The squad leader decided then to threaten me so I don't kill the boss or she would kick me b:shocked

SpeedxBolt - Sanctuary

DeepSilence - Dreamweaver wrote: »

People that threatens you for no good reason, I always hate that.

Like I was just in a fc b/m/h squad (paid 250k fee) and the cleric died while we were doing the boss (he had like 100k or less left) and while we waiting for the cleric to return the barb was holding off the boss and he was getting his charm rapped so I decided to help him by doing a rib every 30 s (was on a 88 sin with crappy gear and weap)

The squad leader decided then to threaten me so I don't kill the boss or she would kick me b:shocked

rofl....I would went "So you want me to kill it? Ok" and double sparked, proceeded by windshield and aps'ing the bosses hp away

See how far pissed off I could get that squad leader before I got kicked

Colum - Raging Tide

Barbs who just don't let you have the aggro you steal all the time and can actually hold the boss. No, they flesh realm instead of doing something useful like devour.

Happens a lot in FC 90+

I_sage_i - Harshlands

i dont know if its been said or not because i did not read all the replys but it pisses me off soo much when other sins use earthern rift and then subsea strike. GOD that blows the **** outa me!!!!!!! your earthern rift will deal more damage if u use subsea strike before it. ugh i see this so much even from sins 100+ and it just blows me sooo much. also what blows me when there is multiple sins in squad and no bm and none of them decide to use subsea strike on boss. like when im on my sin and theres a better sin then me in squad i allways use subsea strike after they spark/powerdash combo.

EDIT:ive read some replys and wow sounds like RT is a horrible server....

truekossy

Rift makes sense for rift, then subsea, then rift combo due to the cooldown.

There's no excuse for the second though.

I_sage_i - Harshlands

truekossy wrote: »

Rift makes sense for rift, then subsea, then rift combo due to the cooldown.

There's no excuse for the second though.

this would make sense if sins actually did it but they dont they just rift then subsea and then aps 1 mob at a time also from my personal experience by the time rift actually hits subsea strike is gone.

LikitySplitz - Dreamweaver

My personal peave is when Sins blast through an instance ahead of everyone, no heads up just go go go! Then when they die they blame everyone else for not keeping up QQ You aren't accomplishing anything quickly by being a speed demon, dying, then having the rest of us wait for your butt to come back...ijs lol

Ambisagrus - Lost City

LikitySplitz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

My personal peave is when Sins blast through an instance ahead of everyone, no heads up just go go go! Then when they die they blame everyone else for not keeping up QQ You aren't accomplishing anything quickly by being a speed demon, dying, then having the rest of us wait for your butt to come back...ijs lol

Hey, if the sin can run ahead and clear **** outta the squads way. Let 'em. Saves the squad work, and lets the sin feel acomplished in a class that is mulitpling faster than rats and flees combined

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

I kind of second what Likity said. Sins should only do what they know they can handle.

LikitySplitz - Dreamweaver

Haha! Luv the pony siggy Skai

Sakubatou - Sanctuary

Ambisagrus - Lost City wrote: »

Hey, if the sin can run ahead and clear **** outta the squads way. Let 'em. Saves the squad work, and lets the sin feel acomplished in a class that is mulitpling faster than rats and flees combined

Be smart about it. I had a sin the other day want to work Metal backwards by himself. Meaning the squad was starting from the Heart of the City but the sin stealthed near the boss and were soloing group by group. We had debuffs, HF, amps... but we lacked raw dd to make value of those. So we went slow and took a fair amount of dd. In the meantime they only were able to do two groups themselves and were finishing the second when we caught up.

I was barb and have decent dd, but our BM was low dd and the rest were poorly refined casters who's main benefits were frost blade or amplify. We would have gone much faster and killed all 6 groups faster than we could have killed 4 and he could have killed 2.

He thought he was contributing more by soloing the back mobs but he actually would have been more use with the squad and with the debuffs. I'd have taken less damage and lower repairs, people would have used less pots, it all would have gone faster.

There are great times for a sin to stealth away and solo things, but people gotta be smart about them.

_Skai_ - Raging Tide

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Be smart about it. I had a sin the other day want to work Metal backwards by himself. Meaning the squad was starting from the Heart of the City but the sin stealthed near the boss and were soloing group by group. We had debuffs, HF, amps... but we lacked raw dd to make value of those. So we went slow and took a fair amount of dd. In the meantime they only were able to do two groups themselves and were finishing the second when we caught up.

I do this very often, only I clear 3-3.5 groups in the time it takes for the rest of the squad to do the first 1.5 groups. xD

Colum - Raging Tide

" You cant kill bishop shade ur lvl 81 "

... yea, with 5,6k HP with barb buff, TT 80 geared w/ 1.56 aps.. ofc I cant kill the **** shade--- oh wait, it's dead alrdy.

" You cant do sin pull at lvl 81 "

... Done without any HP loss except on the run part.

ovenusarmanio

When other sins can't bp my little bm because "BP is useless," as they both said. true story.

Lucrecia - Momaganon

"Youre lvl 9x ? Why the hell arent you using hook and thorn +6/8/10??? Faaaaaaaillll"
(Because i got 90+ daggers with refines a lot cheaper than Hook and Thorn and im a demon sin. No, i wont waste my last money to make a weapon i dont even need + 10 or something)

Being in fc, after killing the bishop boss i usuallly run to the next shade so barb can do a full pull. Some sins just dont get it that if someones already attacking that shade, another sin should either port to it or better stay AWAY till i killed the bishops. Sometimes i attack a bishops and then they suddenly come to help me, running into seal range from bishops, aggroing ALL the groups near them and get killed. When I asked "Why didnt you use Shadow escape?" "I used it before to get into stealth here" ... Due to my exp in this cases i learned not to attack them until the other sin arrives (if hes not afk) or better let him strike first. So someone does the bishops and the other one the shade so i can avoid this.

Oh and something what pisses me off as well (has nothing to do with squad game though but i just have to write it)
Being in cube room 32 "very bored", get a 3 die
Being portet into Luck room, getting a death mark back to room 32
Wait 5 mins to get a 3 die again, being portet into 35 again just to get another death mark
and wait 5 mins again to get another 3 die and so on ....
Just happened to me b:angry

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Lucrecia - Momaganon wrote: »

Being in cube room 32 "very bored", get a 3 die
Being portet into Luck room, getting a death mark back to room 32
Wait 5 mins to get a 3 die again, being portet into 35 again just to get another death mark
and wait 5 mins again to get another 3 die and so on ....
Just happened to me b:angry

The days it happens, has to be done 3~4 times usually. I do the cube in 5~15 minutes usually, but when i get rooms like that, makes me wonder. What did i do to get this karma?

Octarius - Raging Tide

I don't leave squads and know my class very well. If I know I will take aggro seeing as I can solo fc easily I will use chill of the deep. Even then I still take aggro. I take aggro on any run. I'm not even as geared as some sins are. I ran an fc just for fun and after we were going to kill a world boss. It was me, Cleric, Barb, Another assassin and a BM. BM even appologized before hand about stealing aggro.

Half way through the fc the bm could not take aggro from the barb but I was doing it even though I wasn't sparking. Bm got upset and left. I was like....whoa!