Assassins what pisses you guys off or just annoys you when in a squad?

witniss

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yeah, well... I'm the G13+4/r8+5 sin doing that because I don't run 'vana enough to remember which can and cannot be Deep Poisonedb:surrender

However, at least they know what Subsea isb:chuckle

If you spend that much money (let's be honest most of the r9 people csed it) I would expect you to know things like that

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

I haven't got all the bosses memorized yet in nirvy either, so sometimes I subsea a boss that I shouldn't. As for which bosses can be debuffed and which can't, i don't see the big deal in not knowing that just because you're rank 9 +12. It really depends on how much you've done the instance. Some of the cashers (not +12, but still rank 9) I know don't like farming, so they don't really go to nirvana. It's possible to make coin without doing a ton of nirvana. And there are a lot of bosses in this game. b:surrender But at least I don't continuously keep trying to subsea the same boss. I've seen bms HF unampable bosses 2-3 times. The first time is forgetfulness, not having it down, mistakes. You keep doing it over and over again, and you gotta wonder what is going through the person's head. Squads I'm in bosses have typically lasted long enough for 3 of them.

Although some don't see to know how to play period. I've seen ones not what to do in BH snake, assume the squad is fail cuz it gets wiped waiting around for them. And then brings in their over geared main (not always rank 9) and then brag about being pro. Seen it a couple of times actually. Or that assassin that posted the video of a rank 9 psychic pulling in snake as though it should come as a surprise to anyone that arcane armor takes less damage than heavy armor.

Nariin - Dreamweaver

Game rasism (general sin hate mostly)
Squad leaders who go afk with lead for a long time
BMs that never HF
Ppl who leave FC squad cause we have no seeker
Squads that don't bother buffing up whole squad cause there is someone who can solo instance (why getting squad then...?)
Ppl who rush in before rest of squad is not ready and die
Healers who don't heal at all if there is another healer in squad
Ppl who don't read read...ex: LF cleric, 80-90, 200k fee > PM [insert class exept cleric], 69, demands free
edit: Also... other sins who stealth past mobs and wait at boss (in no full sin squad)

Salari - Raging Tide

Nana_PL - Raging Tide wrote: »

Sins that never use chill, even in places like delta, where u need to constantly spam AOE skills.

I agree with everything except this one point. At some point chill is not going to give you a benefit at the loss of aps(in general). For me at 90 ish attack levels the extra 30 from chill in reality is not that much more damage for just using aoe. I can deal far more damage and support through auto attack and chi skills (including my aoe's) for spamming SS for seekers/archers and the like. If I had a higher aps say 4 or 5 or quite a lot lower attack levels then chill might be worth it. But at 2.86 in delta it isnt.


TW dueling ect and such is for a different post.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

I agree with everything except this one point. At some point chill is not going to give you a benefit at the loss of aps(in general). For me at 90 ish attack levels the extra 30 from chill in reality is not that much more damage for just using aoe. I can deal far more damage and support through auto attack and chi skills (including my aoe's) for spamming SS for seekers/archers and the like. If I had a higher aps say 4 or 5 or quite a lot lower attack levels then chill might be worth it. But at 2.86 in delta it isnt.


TW dueling ect and such is for a different post.

Your point would be valid if you had to stay in chill the entire time. Turn on chill---> everyonel aoes-turn off chill-get the ranged before the barb loses aggro so they don't attack the cleric. And anything else that somehow survived the barrage. Turn on chill in between groups (or off in the case of the next wave being the boss) so that you aren't wasting time turning it on when you should be attacking. Aoe next group. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Salari - Raging Tide

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Your point would be valid if you had to stay in chill the entire time. Turn on chill---> everyonel aoes-turn off chill-get the ranged before the barb loses aggro so they don't attack the cleric. And anything else that somehow survived the barrage. Turn on chill in between groups (or off in the case of the next wave being the boss) so that you aren't wasting time turning it on when you should be attacking. Aoe next group. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The damage difference is not worth the time on my char to chill un-chill and so on. It is even less a factor on the higher waves 5+. On lower geared/damage dealing sins yes it is probably worth switching back and forth as the damage increase is quite greater than compared to me.

witniss

The amount of threads you're making on this subject with a slight name change

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

Yeah lets go create another Can i solo xxx / sage vs Demon / is my gear good / etc thread cause we need those so much

Nana_PL - Raging Tide

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

The damage difference is not worth the time on my char to chill un-chill and so on. It is even less a factor on the higher waves 5+. On lower geared/damage dealing sins yes it is probably worth switching back and forth as the damage increase is quite greater than compared to me.

Firstible, VenusArmani already explained what I meant, ofc I don't expect sin to sit in chill all the time cuz that's just ****. Chill should be on at the begining of every wave to spark> Inner harmony> SS> Earthen Rift, thn u can turn it off and aps on single targets, take down ranged mobs ect. (This is not a delta guide lmao so im not going into details). But hmm.. I don't believe chill doesnt make a difference on your dmg o,O Chill lvl 10 + jones blessing already gives u 60 attack lvls, frenzy another 20 + any attack lvls u have from your weapon and shards (if u use DOTs). My base attack lvl is 89 and I can see alot of a difference when I have my chill of the deep on + frenzy ESPECIALLY if I use my skills...

Salari - Raging Tide

Nana_PL - Raging Tide wrote: »

Firstible, VenusArmani already explained what I meant, ofc I don't expect sin to sit in chill all the time cuz that's just ****. Chill should be on at the begining of every wave to spark> Inner harmony> SS> Earthen Rift, thn u can turn it off and aps on single targets, take down ranged mobs ect. (This is not a delta guide lmao so im not going into details). But hmm.. I don't believe chill doesnt make a difference on your dmg o,O Chill lvl 10 + jones blessing already gives u 60 attack lvls, frenzy another 20 + any attack lvls u have from your weapon and shards (if u use DOTs). My base attack lvl is 89 and I can see alot of a difference when I have my chill of the deep on + frenzy ESPECIALLY if I use my skills...

I stated that because I have used chill in the past several times to see if it did make a difference with +10 zerk daggers and +11 r8 daggers. I saw no noticeable difference that would make me want to chill aoe then turn it off.

Having high or higher attack levels does not always mean you will do significant or worthwhile damage. With frenzy I have 114 attack levels. My comment was in relation to my build and others who may have a similar build. When I am doing 80-150k crits or higher on those mobs during the first barrage the mediocre 10-20k I will get from demon chill is not worth the time or effort as I can do way more damage in the time it takes to chill and remove it.

As I stated before, using chill is relative to the build and its not always needed or warranted. It may work with you and work well as with other chars, but that is just not the case for every build.

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yeah, well... I'm the G13+4/r8+5 sin doing that because I don't run 'vana enough to remember which can and cannot be Deep Poisonedb:surrender

However, at least they know what Subsea isb:chuckle

Sometimes I do that, just to listen to people scream about it.


It's not like subsea/HF will result in a squad wipe - it just doesn't do anything. Screaming like a 7 year old girl is a bit much.

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear

Nana_PL - Raging Tide wrote: »

• Squads that NEVER say anything... How can we cooperate with no comunication at all..? x.x

I'm busy using my skills to kill things. I'm not autoattacking, or sitting in BB or DragonsBreath picking my nose - I'M BUSY.

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm busy using my skills to kill things. I'm not autoattacking, or sitting in BB or DragonsBreath picking my nose - I'M BUSY.

lmfao b:laughb:laughb:laughb:laughb:laugh

Typhyse - Sanctuary

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm busy using my skills to kill things. I'm not autoattacking, or sitting in BB or DragonsBreath picking my nose - I'M BUSY.

Best...Fuucking...Answer...EVER!
You win so many internets that they cannot be counted.

witniss

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Best...Fuucking...Answer...EVER!
You win so many internets that they cannot be counted.

I'm too busy swalloIng gigantic loads of patent pending "Billy Mays S3x Liquids" to reply to that

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Best...Fuucking...Answer...EVER!
You win so many internets that they cannot be counted.

Actually, if he wins any quantity that consists of integers, then it can be counted.

And I don't think you want to go into what R\Q internets would amount to.

supertroyman1

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

JESUS CHRIST! FINALLY someone who gets pissed by this too!

i do this by accident alot. but try to fix it fast when lvling my lower toons. it mostly happens to me when i get pms from 3-4 ppl at a time volenteering to help.

Azizsixer - Raging Tide

_Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »

That's the thing that made me a bit sad nowadays. It's either I link my weapon and get chastised for being OP, or I get rejected because they don't know how much damage I can do.

Tonight's the perfect example. It's BH Abaddon Leaf Rain Dryad, and I see about 5-6 squads on WC spamming looking for a barb for that. So I decided to try to help a squad out by asking if they wanted an OP sin instead to help out. Of all of the 5-6 squads, every single one rejected me.

So I decided to make a sin squad and wc'd to ask if any sins wanted BH aba. I got PM's asking if there was a barb/cleric in squad, and I replied that it was a sin squad, and each person laughed and said good luck.

No sin replied to my message, so I went and solo'd it after getting cleric buffs from a friend. No barb buffs, and I just solo'd it in about ~8 minutes.

All I wanted to do was help out the 5-6 squads by saving them time and killing the boss in a few seconds, but apparently I came off as an arrogant ****. It just left a disgusting taste in my mouth at how the community on RT has become.

QQ I'd kill to have Skai in my sqd o,,o

Had a similarly kind sin friend that was semi drunk/bored and decided to help us out in w3 delta...tanked the whole thing...heck his buffs ran out *he used the apoth tht overwrites the mdef cleric buff* and was like "As long as i have bp i'm fine" o,,,o the sqd lol'd

+10 for kind ppl
-Pisses me off when someone is being **** for no reason in sqd to ppl who are not deserving of such behaviour.

ImNotFeelnIt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm busy using my skills to kill things. I'm not autoattacking, or sitting in BB or DragonsBreath picking my nose - I'M BUSY.

lmaoo!!!

MsSeraphine - Archosaur

Hm...

Psychics who give me SoV... Wel, psys who give SoV to any meele char especially barb... Peeps dont know it eats mana...

Other sins who think they can tank much higher magic mobs/bosses and they run into mob groups.

Archers who shot one mob in a group since they wanted to lure...

Clerics who dont notice when their buffs gone...

Yeah, barbs who pull mobs in BH one by one.. when they are all physical!
Or better: they pull 4-5 mobs they forgot to use Roar ... and they expect healing >.>

Mystics, who forget to buff the cleric with res buff, or they buff theirselves first instead of the cleric...


Then, fb59... squishie lv59 ones (especially sins and seekers) run into the magic groups then complain about dying...

_Perses_ - Lost City

MsSeraphine - Archosaur wrote: »

Hm...

Psychics who give me SoV... Wel, psys who give SoV to any meele char especially barb... Peeps dont know it eats mana...

Other sins who think they can tank much higher magic mobs/bosses and they run into mob groups.

Archers who shot one mob in a group since they wanted to lure...

Clerics who dont notice when their buffs gone...

Yeah, barbs who pull mobs in BH one by one.. when they are all physical!
Or better: they pull 4-5 mobs they forgot to use Roar ... and they expect healing >.>

Mystics, who forget to buff the cleric with res buff, or they buff theirselves first instead of the cleric...


Then, fb59... squishie lv59 ones (especially sins and seekers) run into the magic groups then complain about dying...

Sage SoV consumes no mana on the reflect, if they are not lvl 99+ and using SoV on somebody besides themselves they are ****. (the lvl 99+ means they have done sage culti up to lvl 99 part and can learn the lvl 92 sage skills)

Traydor_Styx - Raging Tide

It's fun when the Cleric in your group doesn't get after you die 3 times to heal you.

That would be stealing aggro from a Seeker and being about to tank the boss in question.

Fonyan - Heavens Tear

When I'm on my sin, I get annoyed if there are other sins in my squad for no reason at all.

Traydor_Styx - Raging Tide

Same here. Most of our skills overwrite each other. You need to ask what certian skill levels are.

Outside of sage bp which should be mentioned right away, I hate when sin's ask about bp level.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

It's rather odd, in vana runs bms often tend to sort out the gs and hf order, but sins can not time their subsea, ep at all b:avoid

Typhyse - Sanctuary

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's rather odd, in vana runs bms often tend to sort out the gs and hf order, but sins can not time their subsea, ep at all b:avoid

Because for one, most people don't care about it. For another, Subsea/EP doesn't affect half of the bosses.

Empu - Sanctuary

Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »

Because for one, most people don't care about it. For another, Subsea/EP doesn't affect half of the bosses.

Not to mention there are at least 2 used EP before you can subsea.

That is why I go with powerdash by default b:laugh

Octarius - Raging Tide

As a sin you know your role is damage and to keep the boss rib striked at all cost. I've been in squads where they are screaming at me to keep up rib strike. I kindly let them know to look under the bosses health meter and they will see the debuff is on. I can't help it if there gear sucks and they are taking a **** ton of damage.

At times I'll have to use chill becaue the tank can't keep agro. So when I do use chill the tank tells me I need to be doing more damage. There's really nothing that upsets me. Just annoys me how people can tell me how to do my job when they fail at times with theres. Like a bm who uses hf on a trash mob. XD Ok that's funny but I do enlighten them to save it.

Oh one more thing....those high level sins who think they know everything but usually the first to die by show boating.

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Octarius - Raging Tide wrote: »

As a sin you know your role is damage and to keep the boss rib striked at all cost. I've been in squads where they are screaming at me to keep up rib strike. I kindly let them know to look under the bosses health meter and they will see the debuff is on. I can't help it if there gear sucks and they are taking a **** ton of damage.

Generally I'll rib strike whenever it fits me. Sadly, majority of sins I see never reapply it after the initial one.

Gladly I'm now past the whole FCC thing, since I'm sage. Once or twice I got raged at for using Sage Rib Strike because of the 10% HP debuff. Funny considering that the exact same effect is as a proc on Deicide.

At times I'll have to use chill becaue the tank can't keep agro. So when I do use chill the tank tells me I need to be doing more damage. There's really nothing that upsets me. Just annoys me how people can tell me how to do my job when they fail at times with theres. Like a bm who uses hf on a trash mob. XD Ok that's funny but I do enlighten them to save it.

I actually found that autoattacking with Chill doesn't keep aggro off of me for too long. So if I want the tank to keep aggro, I'll switch to using skills, without Chill. I still haven't gotten yelled at for doing that.

Oh one more thing....those high level sins who think they know everything but usually the first to die by show boating.

That or the sin who has +3 armors with a +10 G13 nirvana and dies the moment they get aggro.

Tsyren - Archosaur

The sins that pathetically don't know how to stay alive.
Seriously, I'm a 7.5k sin, and if I spam apoths I can stay alive tanking Warsong Metal BH. And then I watch the sins with 10k HP and R9 die....

Learn to time your skills, cycle your immunities. A dead sin's dps is always lower than a sin's live dps. Simple math. Unless, ofc, your daggers heal the boss every time you attack (The new BH bosses ftw!)

Kaytrine - Heavens Tear

Tsyren - Archosaur wrote: »

The sins that pathetically don't know how to stay alive.
Seriously, I'm a 7.5k sin, and if I spam apoths I can stay alive tanking Warsong Metal BH. And then I watch the sins with 10k HP and R9 die....

Learn to time your skills, cycle your immunities. A dead sin's dps is always lower than a sin's live dps. Simple math. Unless, ofc, your daggers heal the boss every time you attack (The new BH bosses ftw!)

Funny how you say that. The bosses that heal while attacked (SoT etc.) have no effect whatsoever on r9+12 sins.. I still hit them for more dmg than they can heal. Yes during that phase it makes my dmg negligent but its overall health still goes down. Not sure if ppl notice it.