Chars with 4.0 aps or above get a damage penalty now!

Try 50% penalty on both above 2 aps. THAT would be a real change.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

I suppose.

But I also remember being regarded as useless filler in squads. And dying like a fly.

I kinda rolled a sin to get rid of that.

Huh?

Archers were tanks back in the day. Old Primal Fear... also 3-2 and 3-3 was easiest for Archer to tank before interval...

5.0 still hits 20% harder ea second then 4.0.

5% isnt much and with the +50% rings, i really dont care.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

That probably just means you sucked. No offense <.>

Now now play nice just because you can pull like a barb with an archer doesn't mean everyone can

imperialangel wrote: »

Now now play nice just because you can pull like a barb with an archer doesn't mean everyone can

Poly! HUUUUGSS! lurking forums i see b:chuckle

Chetala - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So as a cleric, I'm inclined to be happy about the nerf to aps. However I do have one issue with the way this nerf was handled:

Those people who chose to go demon are getting punished for that choice. A 4.0 base demon character will have to decide whether it's worth it to spark. I feel that punishing one cultivation over another is going to be problematic. You can't just expect everyone to switch to sage so they can enjoy their triple spark attack.

In my opinion, the main reason that aps is breaking the game is because of blood paint. I think the mechanic of bp should be changed, not necessarily the way aps works. But that's just my opinion.

>.> what are you talking about demon and sage will still be on the same ground as they currently are because they can change what gear they want to wear they can get non - interval fists or daggers or get rid of the tt 99 light armor and make it nirvana.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

Poly! HUUUUGSS! lurking forums i see b:chuckle

>.> you have no proof this is God!

Oh and to answer the poster above me not sparking as a 4.0 base demoin would be stupid loosing 5% damage from a 100+% increase is still worth it to permi spark just saying

Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lol I really doubt 5% makes that much of a deal. And 20% less accuracy... eh. Accuracy rings. b:chuckle

EH?? really??

accuracy aint the problem here....unless i am mistaken, i see it as losing 5% per hit meaning a continuous drop of 5% over time.....which is BS....

for example hiting a boss for some 10k or close dmg but lets say 10k.....

5/100 *10000 = 500

in other words u lose 500 dmg every hit

5*500 = 2500 dmg....thats the amount of dps u are losing

granted its not a signifcant amount as compared to the normal 50k dmg portrayed by this example
but.....50000-2500=47500 over a 2~3 min period is a serously insane drop in dps

represented by 2500*60(2~3) = 300000~450000....thats the effect of a 5% dmg reduction -_-

300000~450000 is like 10-15% of a nirvy boss' HP....

u know how crazy that 5% dmg reduction really is? omfg man

EDIT: not to mention there are like 6 of those bosses with increasing HP and other annoying instances.
think of it this way; ppl get frustrated from the increased time to farm and start cashing like hell = more money into those bottomless pockets of pw get it?

Chetala - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So as a cleric, I'm inclined to be happy about the nerf to aps. However I do have one issue with the way this nerf was handled:

Those people who chose to go demon are getting punished for that choice. A 4.0 base demon character will have to decide whether it's worth it to spark. I feel that punishing one cultivation over another is going to be problematic. You can't just expect everyone to switch to sage so they can enjoy their triple spark attack.

In my opinion, the main reason that aps is breaking the game is because of blood paint. I think the mechanic of bp should be changed, not necessarily the way aps works. But that's just my opinion.

Oh come on.

Every nerf to quantity of APS would favor Demons, because they can then swap gear for more defensive maneuvers, like using Nirvana armors instead of TT99 or using Warsong and Cube ornaments. Add some JoSDs and you're looking at Demon cultivation characters having the same APS as the sages while they also out-survive them due to better shards, refines and defenses.

Also there's the fact that BB overrides Sage Spark's damage reduction, effectively making Sage that much less appealing in settings where you have a cleric, e.g. BH or Delta.

Ragamufinsin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i see it as losing 5% per hit meaning a continuous drop of 5% over time

are you drunk?
it'd be -5% dmg per hit, the end. you wouldn't go from 100 to 95 to 90.5... you'd go from 100 to 95 to 95.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh come on.

Every nerf to quantity of APS would favor Demons, because they can then swap gear for more defensive maneuvers, like using Nirvana armors instead of TT99 or using Warsong and Cube ornaments. Add some JoSDs and you're looking at Demon cultivation characters having the same APS as the sages while they also out-survive them due to better shards, refines and defenses.

Also there's the fact that BB overrides Sage Spark's damage reduction, effectively making Sage that much less appealing in settings where you have a cleric, e.g. BH or Delta.

lol basically what I said when zan said I was talking out my ***. b:victory

Instead of ajusting the stats required for gear on assasins(in essence killing the whole design of the class) to match the other aps able classes with fists/claws they do a joke of a nerf. Sounds more like swaying people to buy r9 than farm their nirvana gear/recast r8.

5% hmm, looks like I need 5 more dots then

wont the new PvE armor make this nerf obsolete as far as PvE goes.

Question:

-5% of Weapon Damage or -5% of Overall Damage? b:laugh

-20% of base accuracy or -20% of overall accuracy? b:laugh