Chars with 4.0 aps or above get a damage penalty now!

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LyuKang - Sanctuary
LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
edited February 2012 in General Discussion
genotypist wrote: »
Balance

Attack Speed changes
Once a player surpasses 4.0 attack speed, whether passively or via a buff, they will incur a -5% damage penalty as well as a -20% accuracy penalty.

As said on patch note.

EDIT: Made a mistake on title, only chars that surpasses 4.0 aps

EDIT 2: Could a mod rename this thread as "Chars with aps above 4.0 gets a penalty now!" please?
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  • DejaEntendu - Heavens Tear
    DejaEntendu - Heavens Tear Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    this game will suffer the lamentations of many who rely on speed instead of skill
    it won't be pretty :(
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    The penalty isn't that big.

    5.0 at 95% is still better than 4.0 at 100%.

    And since most characters use Sky Cover or Sign of Frost: Chaos, the -accuracy% is non-issue.

    But I don't care either way, I'm sage.
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  • RageKill - Lost City
    RageKill - Lost City Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Eh its not so bad. I think its rather annoying, but attack shards and accuracy acc/shards will help with the -5 percent and -20 percent accuracy.

    Still angers meh.. MEH
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    5% damage penaly, lol

    20% accuracy penalty, i guess would work a tiny bit better if evryone didnt have +50% accuracy rings
  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    lol, if this is their way of nerfing aps, they are doing it wrong, ijs...
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The penalty isn't that big.

    5.0 at 95% is still better than 4.0 at 100%.

    And since most characters use Sky Cover or Sign of Frost: Chaos, the -accuracy% is non-issue.

    But I don't care either way, I'm sage.

    It's not good for 5.0 G15 sins, which means the 4.0 r9 sins are laughing their ***** off right now. That's kinda the unfair part x.x
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  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    So the wording confuses me a little. 4.0 gets the nerf too or only once you reach 5 aps?
  • Escorian - Dreamweaver
    Escorian - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    I am more interested in this line
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  • EnDeavor - Lothranis
    EnDeavor - Lothranis Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So the wording confuses me a little. 4.0 gets the nerf too or only once you reach 5 aps?

    surpasses = get over 4 aps. 4 aps ppl should be safe then.
  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So the wording confuses me a little. 4.0 gets the nerf too or only once you reach 5 aps?

    Only those that surpasses 4.0, I made a mistake on the title and I've edited my first post saying it.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    I think they are just trying to do something not noticeable enough to **** off the vast multitudes of 5.0 chars, while giving casters and other players who want a fix the illusion that their pleas are not being ignored.
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Not a big deal imo...

    For claw Barbs at least, you have the STR buff, Accuracy buff, and the new stackable ATK buff for Barbs.b:shutup
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  • DaggerSin_ - Heavens Tear
    DaggerSin_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I am more interested in this line



    As am I. No more amp that sucks
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    what are the conditions of that? (Funny, when they do nerf classes, its all the wrong ones)
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    DaggerSin_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    As am I. No more amp that sucks

    I'd assume it means the one 79 skill. I can't fully remember what it was though.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what are the conditions of that? (Funny, when they do nerf classes, its all the wrong ones)

    PW never does anything right. That's nothing new though.
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  • imperialangel
    imperialangel Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    lol R9 4.0 just went from equal to G15 5.0 at +12 to now beating it XD I feel very sorry for all the second cast vana people and the G13 dagger people will now be crying in a corner as well.
  • EnDeavor - Lothranis
    EnDeavor - Lothranis Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'd assume it means the one 79 skill. I can't fully remember what it was though.

    there are 2x lvl 79 skills, one in fox form, one in human form (same effect). Why would they remove it ?
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Lol I really doubt 5% makes that much of a deal. And 20% less accuracy... eh. Accuracy rings. b:chuckle
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    PW never does anything right. That's nothing new though.

    I didn't say new or exciting or unprecedented or surprising, I said funny, cus it is b:chuckle
  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Step in the right direction...but the nerf needs to be much more drastic.
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Step in the right direction...but the nerf needs to be much more drastic.

    and apply only to sins b:pleased
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    I don't mind if they nurf APS. I want something good in return though. Make it worthwhile. b:chuckle
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  • _Xtastia_ - Harshlands
    _Xtastia_ - Harshlands Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    LMFAO... TY for being R9 4 aps sin!

    LOL LOL LOL...

    Stop QQing, i'm happy with it. b:pleased
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and apply only to sins b:pleased

    Yeah so that freaking Archers will be even more imba. Exactly what we need, for Archers to become the new Assassins!
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  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    This nerf is weak imo, should've been a more higher damage penalty, since this is their plan.

    Oh well...
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  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah so that freaking Archers will be even more imba. Exactly what we need, for Archers to become the new Assassins!

    Archers were the "assassins" before assassins, surely u can remember that? b:surrender
  • imperialangel
    imperialangel Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    Rain you don't do any damage anyway I wouldn't worry about the nerf either way O:-)
  • J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear
    J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    well its not like rank9 dagger + 5.0 was a impossible thing with r8 recast gear just a tiny bit closer to very expensive...
  • Sefiere - Sanctuary
    Sefiere - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited February 2012
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    _Xtastia_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    LMFAO... TY for being R9 4 aps sin!

    LOL LOL LOL...

    Stop QQing, i'm happy with it. b:pleased

    wha...what is there to QQ about?

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