Small Faction TWs

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  • Greymark - Raging Tide
    Greymark - Raging Tide Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited November 2011
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    Look this, just three territories,

    A guild can not take all the land, so there will be more likely than small guilds can have fun and not a tws lasting 4 or 3 minutes, to avoid this problem. a guild "powerful"(Valk) cant take all terrtorios and eventually be strengthened and it is impossible to beat unless you are the big guilds go to attack they..

    avefenix, marine and other fac interesing can take territores.


    Not insulting or trolling just looking for you to maybe clarify because i have no idea what you just said here ><. Why are those three random lands that aren't touching each other highlighted. Also, Valk isnt even on the map? im just confused ahahaha
  • ArkangelAles - Raging Tide
    ArkangelAles - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I mean is not like u guys gona lose the land, it belongs to ur factions u guys can take it back when ever u want( in 5 min actually b:surrender ), as long as the other 3 top faction dont bid on it, and if an OP faction takes over, belive us we be the firts to let u know guys..

    But decition is up to the top Faction Leaders and Oficials. to make it legit on next weeks bid
  • Boartracker - Raging Tide
    Boartracker - Raging Tide Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I think what frandaniel17 is suggesting in his post & image is that the proposed lands Not be adjacent to each other. This would keep the "smaller" TWs to a simple Attack or Defense event. This looks like it would guarentee 4 of these battles each week. This would also allow each land holding faction to support the event equally. The number of lands available would still be 4.

    The original Major factions could keep an eye on their allocated lands. They would have the ability to reclaim the land if required. They could also reallocate the lands into 2 sections with adjacent lands or 1 section of 4 adjacent lands later if it would improve the program.

    Pros:
    1) Allows for 8 factions to participate each week on 4 lands.
    2) Keeps a larger sized "smaller" faction from controlling all 4 areas.
    3) Each Major Land Holding faction could share equally in supporting the program.
    4) These "smaller" factions could concentrate on tactics for attack and defense one time per week. This actually looks good as they don't have the extra resource drain of multiple TWs on a weekend and reduces the manpower requirements for the smaller starting factions.
    5) This program could be started with the support of only one Major Land Holding faction.
    6) Controlling only one land would assit "smaller" factions in growing their faction and moving up to compete with the major TW factions.

    Cons:
    1) Each of the 4 Major Land Holding factions would have to agree to support the program and allocate one non-adjacent land for a full program.
    2) Levi or Vertu might have an issue with a faction like Valk adjacent to them and allowing someone like Valk to rebuild and train next door. (There are several other factions with sizable rosters who currently don't TW and who wouldn't take long to get there.)
    3) As Land Holder factions land count changes, it becomes more difficult to obtain a complete agreement.

    I think this is a good suggestion. It also represents an alternative to the original proposal by Man on the territories to use if Man and Nuff can't reach agreement on the initial proposal. Gentlemen, if you have any issues, please, post them here for resolution if you would. I thank you for the efforts here and lack of trolling.

    I'm an "interested party" and will say that my faction would be hard pressed against some of the competition possible if this happens. However, I think that this is a good idea and volunteer as a mediator to see if we can't get this done. I offer the use of the Marine Vent as a neutural meeting site if you would like discuss this verbally.

    There are many good thoughts posted here and this shows that Raging Tide can work together for the good of the server's members. I look forward to more posts from other interested faction officers. b:thanks
  • Boartracker - Raging Tide
    Boartracker - Raging Tide Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    News Update:

    Nuff_Said and Vici have agreed to the original program with their making 2 lands available along with Man at QQme doing the same. We are now waiting for Man with QQme to agree so we can start the program.

    b:thanks
  • X_Jinx_x - Raging Tide
    X_Jinx_x - Raging Tide Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i think i would have to speak for all of Bware on this one that i agree with mostly alll that ive read i just scammed through but got the point!! we all love tws but 12-20min tws vs vertu/levi get frustrating sometimes lol but all are worth it small faction tws will give people a chance and get the hang of it and most importantly have fun GL with this and ill be checking back in for more info :)
  • Aasimar - Raging Tide
    Aasimar - Raging Tide Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Interesting thread.
    Fist of, let me say I support this idea, always did, always will be.

    However that white gooey looking stuff on the map I posted link of, is why I don't trust a thing "Man" has to say.
    -map right before map reset-
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    Evidently, tendency to conquer every land and cutting off every faction on the map from each other is a way of saying "we want smaller factions to have fun".


    Now my suggestion at this point in time to all of you that want to have balanced TW's:

    -Unite, drop "i wanna be lead" mentality, find some common ground with other factions and merge.
    -Leviathan and Vertu are both very nice and fun factions who will not trash talk you or offend you if you chose to attack them. They 2 enjoy a good fight.
    -under no circumstance attack QQmu, you'll regret it. ...might eave get categorized as vicious allies, not to mention trash talked to death.
    -dont let others tell you are pro/sexy/pretty... just be that!


    And what is sad here is said by a genuine server underdog. I liked a good challenge and thus stayed in weaker factions that challenged "big dogs" for the most part of my pwi gameplay. However, I ended up joining the "resistance" with bunch of my friend.
    Let me just say that initially it was just another faction, like any of you guys, wanting to have some TW fun, but thees days people perceive Vicious as those that keep QQme at bay, so history does not repeat itself. I must say this is far from the truth tho.
    Vicious is attacking QQme week after week because it gives us 3h TW.
    3h TW = fun!
    Vicious people like FUN!
    Simple as that.
    b:surrender

    i'm sorry, i'm just another member of another faction. but thb, would leave any faction that chose 5minute role over 3h tw... then again, it is just me and to each his own.
    have fun ppl, <3 ya
    aasi b:cute


    PS.
    oh btw, any TW faction out there that needs any of those advance 1k pots made, just PM me ingame. I'll be glad to make them for you.
  • Nuff_Said - Raging Tide
    Nuff_Said - Raging Tide Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    News Update:

    Nuff_Said and Vici have agreed to the original program with their making 2 lands available along with Man at QQme doing the same. We are now waiting for Man with QQme to agree so we can start the program.

    b:thanks

    Funny how one of the main advocates for this "program" has now become unable to be reached. I have spoken with AveFenix on 2 separate occasions confirming that Vicious would agree to drop 2 lands.

    At this point, Vicious has decided to hold off until QQme drops land first since they are so hard to reach nowadays...
    "I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander, he's no Alexander. I'm the best ever! There's never been anybody as ruthless! I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart! I want to eat his children!" ~ Mike Tyson
  • Greymark - Raging Tide
    Greymark - Raging Tide Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Funny how one of the main advocates for this "program" has now become unable to be reached. I have spoken with AveFenix on 2 separate occasions confirming that Vicious would agree to drop 2 lands.

    At this point, Vicious has decided to hold off until QQme drops land first since they are so hard to reach nowadays...

    Agreed Nuff, my lil wiz is now in nocturnal so hopefully by this weekend or next weekend at the latest we can get this sorted out and give the lands to four dif factions to start with.
  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Wow Aasimar that is a sexy map! I'm glad you got a screenshot because i never, are you sure we didn't have more land than that? So Aasimar did people have good tws on that map? Yes they did, i think Levi and Vertu and good ones and Murr and other factions, and QQme and vicious. Oh wait, i thought with map reset Vicious was wiped off the map at that point? Is this screenshot a few weeks before reset?

    QQme is more than one person(and i am a libertarian not a dicator!), so I'm sure you can understand the need to talk with my faction about this, I should be able to come back with the green light tomorrow Wednesday. Thank you for your patience.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • TiggerPoo - Raging Tide
    TiggerPoo - Raging Tide Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Some play to win, some play for fun. When you can play for fun and have modest success doing so...

    CHEERS!
  • Nolikeydrama - Raging Tide
    Nolikeydrama - Raging Tide Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'm going to go ahead and say, I don't agree with giving up lands to anyone. If you want to make a name for yourself, fight for it. Every single faction on the map has fought for their spot so..just no thank you.

    If anything, I think we should give up 1 land and bichuos could give up another. Let's say The Fissure and Buried Bones. I don't think giving up freebies is the way to go and giving up 4 lands for that matter is a dumb idea. b:bye good day

    ....not to mention planning stuff like this could get both nuffsaid and Cody banned...
  • ZetsumieX - Raging Tide
    ZetsumieX - Raging Tide Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    i don't agree with all dis just cuz of the fail safe rule, QQme and vicious lose 2 weeks of fun TW to just get dose 2 lands each from valkarie.
  • Nuff_Said - Raging Tide
    Nuff_Said - Raging Tide Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    QQme is more than one person(and i am a libertarian not a dicator!), so I'm sure you can understand the need to talk with my faction about this, I should be able to come back with the green light tomorrow Wednesday. Thank you for your patience.

    So you didn't have time to speak with your faction since October 25th or is it the public mentioning of you guys not responding that got you to speed up the process? Either way, see you this weekend in tw.
    "I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander, he's no Alexander. I'm the best ever! There's never been anybody as ruthless! I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart! I want to eat his children!" ~ Mike Tyson
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'm going to go ahead and say, I don't agree with giving up lands to anyone.

    And I don't agree with posting on an alt. But then again that's not going to change anything is it?
  • Greymark - Raging Tide
    Greymark - Raging Tide Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    And I don't agree with posting on an alt. But then again that's not going to change anything is it?

    ....+1
  • Man - Raging Tide
    Man - Raging Tide Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    QQme agrees with this.

    Need to get the agreement of Vertu / Levi. Or the commitment anyway.

    I have reservations but i think its a worthy investment in the future.

    Attack dem lands.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Greymark - Raging Tide
    Greymark - Raging Tide Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Cody, Im on vent with hero as I type this and he is okay with it. Although I don't see how giving up four lands in the bottom of the map really has too much of an effect on us we do appreciate you asking for our input. Were excited to see the smaller factions be able to have fair fun TWs again but ultimately it's your land so we leave the decision in the hands of you and Nuff.


    (This is if were still doing the four adjacent lands in the bottom of the map. If we're doing that weird *** 4 not touching each other spread out across the map idea I'll run that by hero and wel go from there. Please clarify.)
  • Shield - Raging Tide
    Shield - Raging Tide Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Cody, Im on vent with hero as I type this and he is okay with it. Although I don't see how giving up four lands in the bottom of the map really has too much of an effect on us we do appreciate you asking for our input. Were excited to see the smaller factions be able to have fair fun TWs again but ultimately it's your land so we leave the decision in the hands of you and Nuff.


    (This is if were still doing the four adjacent lands in the bottom of the map. If we're doing that weird *** 4 not touching each other spread out across the map idea I'll run that by hero and wel go from there. Please clarify.)

    4 touching lands is the way to go...some1 should talk with Valk's leader i dont really think they should be part of this....i cant speak for the whole faction but i rather the challenge of going against Vertu or Levi..

    ok time to lvl my barbie grey/killanator what lvl r ur alts? lets FC :o (im in nocturnal b:cute)
  • ArkangelAles - Raging Tide
    ArkangelAles - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    I'm going to go ahead and say, I don't agree with giving up lands to anyone. If you want to make a name for yourself, fight for it. Every single faction on the map has fought for their spot so..just no thank you.

    .

    U are right Sr. on pointing this out as we mention before is not the land we are interested in, its just TW fun.

    Small faction are not demanding them to give them up, they can have it back when ever they need it.

    We are asking the top faction to give us a break to TW on there own lands,

    We gona respect what ever decition they take on this matter cuz is 100% up to them.

    small faction apreciate ur comments Mr. Alt we also see it the way u do .. but hey we need to give it a try and speak out and hope they be a good spots about it
  • Nolikeydrama - Raging Tide
    Nolikeydrama - Raging Tide Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    And I don't agree with posting on an alt. But then again that's not going to change anything is it?

    Lol, you're mad your noob *** wasn't and won't be accepted in my guild. Anyways like I said noone deserves free land. We fought for our lands, viciuos did and so did levi and vertu so this is a bs plan.

    ps dakiller gear up your noob *** and then let's talk about mains...I can probably one shot you with one magic skill. fail noobb:bye
  • Greymark - Raging Tide
    Greymark - Raging Tide Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Lol, you're mad your noob *** wasn't and won't be accepted in my guild. Anyways like I said noone deserves free land. We fought for our lands, viciuos did and so did levi and vertu so this is a bs plan.

    ps dakiller gear up your noob *** and then let's talk about mains...I can probably one shot you with one magic skill. fail noobb:bye

    Name is Nolikeydrama... Does anyone else think this is ironic ?
  • Dylena - Raging Tide
    Dylena - Raging Tide Posts: 1,416 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Name is Nolikeydrama... Does anyone else think this is ironic ?

    It's Zav, what did you expect? b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Lol, you're mad your noob *** wasn't and won't be accepted in my guild.

    I've never even applied to QQme...
    ps dakiller gear up your noob *** and then let's talk about mains...I can probably one shot you with one magic skill. fail noobb:bye

    So apparently you're Zav? Which means you have +10 r9?
    I guess I'm a fail noob since I get one shot by people that have literally spent 100 times more on a game than I have. I can live with that.
  • Boartracker - Raging Tide
    Boartracker - Raging Tide Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Interesting weekend. Those who didn't wait have attacked every one of Levi's lands. Is 10 of 10 a new record or has this been done before? Good luck, Levi.

    Happy 236th Birthday to my fellow Marines & have a nice Vetrans/ Rememberance Day.

    b:bye
  • AriesBreath - Raging Tide
    AriesBreath - Raging Tide Posts: 689 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    So apparently you're Zav? Which means you have +10 r9?

    Whoa whoa whoa, Zav gonna take that hit? He just degraded your +12 to a mere +10! b:shocked
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • DirtySouth - Raging Tide
    DirtySouth - Raging Tide Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Lol, you're mad your noob *** wasn't and won't be accepted in my guild. Anyways like I said noone deserves free land. We fought for our lands, viciuos did and so did levi and vertu so this is a bs plan.

    ps dakiller gear up your noob *** and then let's talk about mains...I can probably one shot you with one magic skill. fail noobb:bye

    Im so astonished, zav talking about noobness? While he fails killing me (selfbuffed) with 3ple spark and running in SZ. Really zav better start to close that mouth and start with some facts.
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Im so astonished, zav talking about noobness? While he fails killing me (selfbuffed) with 3ple spark and running in SZ. Really zav better start to close that mouth and start with some facts.


    Want facts:

    1) I got stunned. Other wise you would have died. Probably should work on getting my 100 skill, but I am lazy.

    2) You talk so much **** since you +12ed your gear like you're all that and a bag of chips. But you couldn't kill me and you kept me stun locked. What's up with that?

    3) You are the biggest crybaby and **** talker when it does come to pvp. But when you get your asswhooped by Retto or Luci you run away QQing like the biggest little bytch you are. When is the last time you have ever seen me really talk **** in pk? That's right I don't. I am not some troll f.ag like you are who needs everyone to believe I am god.

    4) I didn't run to SZ because of you. I had pizza in my oven. Before you showed up I was tanking DD, hero, some random Vertu psychic. Sorry to burst your bubble chumpstain. But they do more damage together than you.
  • XxZavxX - Raging Tide
    XxZavxX - Raging Tide Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    It's Zav, what did you expect? b:chuckle


    That's not me. My alts abuse the English language anyhow. And I only posted on them because I used to get talked to for making inflammatory posts here.

    If I wanted to troll on these forums there are better things to point out. Like the pathetic nature of your faction. You guys used to cry and cry about how QQme was so evil.

    Funny how you guys talk **** about people like Retto when he takes a break from your faction behind his back. Or just plain talk **** whenever and where ever it is possible. Or kick members because Belle happened to make their signature. Or kick Luci because your faction has no room for dissension. Really, you guys

    You're the same joke you were a year ago Dylena. You may kiss peoples' arses and act nice, and fool some people. However, you are every much of an *** as the people you program your faction members to hate on.

    Accuse me of whatever is going on here all you like. At the end of the day I am more likely to be either doing some productive in game or out of game than on these forums. And if I am on these forums I am more likely on the General Discussion page than Re.tarded Trolls forums.

    p.s. When are you going to find a new meme to spam and be a dork...err... cool guy with?
  • TeddyBear - Raging Tide
    TeddyBear - Raging Tide Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    That's not me. My alts abuse the English language anyhow. And I only posted on them because I used to get talked to for making inflammatory posts here.

    If I wanted to troll on these forums there are better things to point out. Like the pathetic nature of your faction. You guys used to cry and cry about how QQme was so evil.

    Funny how you guys talk **** about people like Retto when he takes a break from your faction behind his back. Or just plain talk **** whenever and where ever it is possible. Or kick members because Belle happened to make their signature. Or kick Luci because your faction has no room for dissension. Really, you guys

    You're the same joke you were a year ago Dylena. You may kiss peoples' arses and act nice, and fool some people. However, you are every much of an *** as the people you program your faction members to hate on.

    Accuse me of whatever is going on here all you like. At the end of the day I am more likely to be either doing some productive in game or out of game than on these forums. And if I am on these forums I am more likely on the General Discussion page than Re.tarded Trolls forums.

    p.s. When are you going to find a new meme to spam and be a dork...err... cool guy with?

    Sooo, Zav, since you know everything that goes on in Vicious, care to explain more on your examples? Like the **** talking part for example, no one talked ****, the fact is, it was mentioned that "Retto will join QQme in the next week or so lol". Now, from what I've noticed, sir, that wasn't a bad assumption was it? My honest opinion here is that said person knew they wanted to try QQme and felt somewhat bad about the decision, considering their history with them. Also, saying that was just some way of not feeling bad about it xD

    Kicking people because their sigs were made by Belle? Who was that person? LOL, that is prolly the dumbest thing I've seen and it'd also be kinda immature. I mean, sure, I know you and the rest of QQme want us to look bad, but making up stuff like that is ridiculous.

    As for the Luci thing lol, I'd love to know what you guys were told, because I bet we have a completely different story.b:cute As for this one, I'd say..." the "almighty, powerful", op geared individual felt like **** because they were kicked. The big epeen they have just couldn't talk the pain of knowing that no matter how op you are, you can't start drama and expect people to take your **** as a result.

    I'm going to point out that if we were desperate for people, and allowed that drama bs, we wouldn't have kicked those people, but we aren't. QQme on the other hand, quickly gobbled them up. Bypassing your application system for them and all just for the extra help in tw. Talk about hypocrisy.

    Btw, notice I never said one guild is better than the other. I pointed out facts you quickly tried to dismiss.b:heart
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Spell_Caster - Raging Tide
    Spell_Caster - Raging Tide Posts: 2,216 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Archer vs Archer
    If someone hates you for no reason, then give that **** a reason!b:chuckle