An open honest letter to Frankie

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  • ULMOS - Archosaur
    ULMOS - Archosaur Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    But you actually cried?
  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    All the cash shop is is an item ID and a price linked to a database. The packages (Multiples of 2/3) might be difficult and could **** something up, but its so close to impossible its like catching gonorrhea by looking at someone.

    I mean, GM capes / swords can be put into the cash shop if you put the ID in and the server is enabled for it >_>

    I seriously lol'd. Real reason, or gtfo. Although the various articles on extending game life seem plausible, and even welcome, personally.

    Try again frankie.
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    So will this sale ever be back then?

    What about the orbs existing in shops now?

    Was it the orb item itself causing this "possible client-side issue", or the process of purchasing the orb in the game thru the boutique?
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  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Sorry about the wait, my post got cut off and I immediately got pulled into a meeting. But getting back to the OP:







    There were no revenue issues - the sale itself was doing fine. The directive to remove them came from China, as they had located a possible client-side issue with selling the Mirage and Flame in the Boutique. We were directed to pull them from the shop immediately, which is why we had to have the emergency maintenance.

    As compute science major i find that highly unlikely that the dragon orbs could do anything like this. If it did cause a critical error upon purchase it would do it to everyone who bought them and i know several people with tons of new +12 gear with no such problem. Coding errors dont pick and choose who to crash, they crash anything that stumbles upon them. Oh pwi, dont you know every time you lie to your playerbase god kills a kitten? Wait, thats masturbation
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    The directive to remove them came from China

    This part I believe.
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  • IAetius - Dreamweaver
    IAetius - Dreamweaver Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »
    This part I believe.

    I believe that part too :)

    But yay frankie posted. woots! lol
    TY for my shiney new R9 PWE b:chuckle

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  • Jay_Dubbz - Lost City
    Jay_Dubbz - Lost City Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Sorry about the wait, my post got cut off and I immediately got pulled into a meeting. But getting back to the OP:







    There were no revenue issues - the sale itself was doing fine. The directive to remove them came from China, as they had located a possible client-side issue with selling the Mirage and Flame in the Boutique. We were directed to pull them from the shop immediately, which is why we had to have the emergency maintenance.

    This is so vague, can you even elaborate alittle "possible client side issue" what the heck does that mean. Can you actually explain what this is. Sounds like a trained robot talking gosh
  • Channman - Lost City
    Channman - Lost City Posts: 491 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    i for one will be quitting once end of nations comes out
  • deodir
    deodir Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur wrote: »
    As compute science major i find that highly unlikely that the dragon orbs could do anything like this.
    lol.

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  • WangZi - Dreamweaver
    WangZi - Dreamweaver Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    GIMME BACK MY ORBS! LOL

    bump.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So will this sale ever be back then?

    What about the orbs existing in shops now?

    Was it the orb item itself causing this "possible client-side issue", or the process of purchasing the orb in the game thru the boutique?

    Not a bump.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I believe with the Medal fiasco it took a massive amount of complaining and rioting to get a response b:chuckle

    Actually historically on these forums causing as much trouble as possible gets better responses than a strategy of polite open letters. It's way to easy for them to totally ignore these as they are doing now.

    Quoted for truth...
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  • WangZi - Dreamweaver
    WangZi - Dreamweaver Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    ORBS!

    bump again. b:chuckle
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  • AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary
    AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    There were no revenue issues - the sale itself was doing fine. The directive to remove them came from China, as they had located a possible client-side issue with selling the Mirage and Flame in the Boutique. We were directed to pull them from the shop immediately, which is why we had to have the emergency maintenance.

    I dont mean to be rude frankie but that's BS, once again.
    It's vague and it still isn't a very sourcefull answer. ( then again i suppose we should thank the heavans on our bare knees we even GOT a reply )

    The sale -wasn't- doing fine if it made the client crash, yet NEVER has a CS item made the client crash. If anything the MASS amount of packs would.

    Next to that :
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Also would like to report a bug.

    Yesterday, I got out of TT and was ported to Town of Arrivals. Upon repairing, the moment after I did it, the client just closes and exits, in a flash.

    It just happened again about 5 minutes ago of this post. If this was the problem and reason for the orbs being remove, its still here.

    ^^ IF that is the reason, it's been going on WELL before this Orb sale, me and my husband have been having this sort of "crash" and full flash shut down for well over a year.
    the game just, dissapears.

    we can now pretty much tell when it's going to happen because, mounts/wings are a shiny metallic white, fashion are their full metallic dyed color and just sometimes when porting from one city to another, mostly Tideborn or Earth Guard main city.


    Oh and I got **** 3 days ago, i traced the IP that was in my ingame notifications and ended up at the JPNIC umbrella company who host and register/monitor these IP's on that continent. It's registered under a Internet company in Japan and wont list me it's user's adress or else i would of given it to you.
    (But if you are willing to actually solve this, and show you read people's post, feel free to message me and i will give you all the details i have, cause of course... my ticket got autoresponded)

    what ever you were trying to accomplish with Sihndra's post, it failed.
    I have NEVER used any third party programme or site, and always charged through pwi or the game cards.

    i never got the notification my password was changed either so it wasn't you guys, cause i still regularly use the email my PWI acount is registered on. Yet i could not log into my acount with the password i used.
    I thankfully got my acount back by resetting it, and that email i DID get into my email inbox.
    I logged back in with the result nothing was taken, but my login screen showed a character i did not log off of the night before.
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  • FaelanRain - Raging Tide
    FaelanRain - Raging Tide Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I've seen codes and java scripts do very odd things when 1 or 2 lines are missed or added incorrectly. However this doesnt sound exactly right to me either. Im curious as well about what kind of issues they were experiencing. Bump.
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  • DATALEC - Dreamweaver
    DATALEC - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    why dont they just say"we noticed that people would buy the +11 and +12 orbs and sell them for 240m(+11) and 300m(+12) after the sales and then people wouldnt need to put money on the game"
    That to me is what is ment BY client based problems lol
  • Badburton - Lost City
    Badburton - Lost City Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I no need +11 or +12 things


    I just need my +2 lvl 70 zerk axes to kill lvl 20s with monsters b:bye
    y r8s and r9 die to 9x?


    y?
  • Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear
    Outlaw_Arch - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    QQin in the wrong forum. flood the china version with QQ instead, dirctly at the source, you may get better info that way. after all it's the DEVS that would have found this "problem" and acted on it but telling the GMs to pull the orbs out.
  • Belgarath - Heavens Tear
    Belgarath - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I must be allergic to certain colors, because every time I see a post by someone with a red name, the words "pathological liar" come to my mind.

    This post below is perhaps the first ever that might actually be truthful. It's a good start.
    frankieraye wrote: »
    Hold up, post got cut off.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Are they rewarding the rich with a 1 day sale to prolong the game? b:question that dont make sense
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  • Hera_aether - Sanctuary
    Hera_aether - Sanctuary Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    frankieraye wrote: »
    There were no revenue issues - the sale itself was doing fine. The directive to remove them came from China, as they had located a possible client-side issue with selling the Mirage and Flame in the Boutique. We were directed to pull them from the shop immediately, which is why we had to have the emergency maintenance.

    Y'all are such geeks XD. Here Frankie is explaining that they had noticed a possible problem with the orb sales on the client side, and you're all jumping to the conclusion he meant software...

    Okay...I'll just b:shutup now...
  • Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver
    Mr_Punkster - Dreamweaver Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    BaldwinBoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You lost them at "honest".

    b:laugh b:laugh b:laugh

    soooo true

    cheers to that mate
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  • aclucius318
    aclucius318 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur wrote: »
    As compute science major i find that highly unlikely that the dragon orbs could do anything like this. If it did cause a critical error upon purchase it would do it to everyone who bought them and i know several people with tons of new +12 gear with no such problem. Coding errors dont pick and choose who to crash, they crash anything that stumbles upon them. Oh pwi, dont you know every time you lie to your playerbase god kills a kitten? Wait, thats masturbation

    Yes, you must be right because, as a computer science major, you must know PW's code and how it all works and ties in together.

    I'm a criminal justice major, but it doesn't mean I know enough to doubt what a police department does. There's a difference between being a major in something and knowing the specifics of something.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur wrote: »
    As compute science major i find that highly unlikely that the dragon orbs could do anything like this. If it did cause a critical error upon purchase it would do it to everyone who bought them and i know several people with tons of new +12 gear with no such problem. Coding errors dont pick and choose who to crash, they crash anything that stumbles upon them. Oh pwi, dont you know every time you lie to your playerbase god kills a kitten? Wait, thats masturbation
    let's say the chance of a +12 orb crashing the client upon you gettng it is .1% chance.

    now, how many of these orbs will you buy? more than one, right? the more you buy the more likely it is to crash (if that's the case) it could also have been a server-side error in how these orbs are coded. one wrong hex CAN EASILY crash something.
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  • Jhalil - Heavens Tear
    Jhalil - Heavens Tear Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    All I want to say is that they don't really care about us.
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  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    let's say the chance of a +12 orb crashing the client upon you gettng it is .1% chance.

    now, how many of these orbs will you buy? more than one, right? the more you buy the more likely it is to crash (if that's the case) it could also have been a server-side error in how these orbs are coded. one wrong hex CAN EASILY crash something.

    There is no hex however.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/15049

    15049 and a few quantity and binding checkboxes is all they need to use for the cashshop.

    Seriously, if there was a problem, it would affect everyone who bought /used them or there was no problem. This isnt some graphics issue that will only affect certain PCs or a connection issue that only affects certain people, its an unchangable (For the user) number they click on.
  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    VenoMKII - Harshlands wrote: »
    There is no hex however.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/15049
    do you know what hex is?
    here, example:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/11212

    hex code (not that you can do anything with it) 
    0100ff0001000000000001003c8601003c8601002c00030000000000240100000f000000000000007f9698007f9698007f9698007f9698000000000000002041000000000000000000000000

    hex is missing purify spell (got this information out of an old elements.data file I've been reading through)

    hex runs EVERYTHING
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  • Abstractive - Archosaur
    Abstractive - Archosaur Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    hex runs EVERYTHING

    *Waits for HexOmega's cheerful reply*
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  • Psytrac - Dreamweaver
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,488 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »
    *Waits for HexOmega's cheerful reply*
    wrong hex.. lol
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  • VenoMKII - Harshlands
    VenoMKII - Harshlands Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    do you know what hex is?
    here, example:

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/11212

    hex code (not that you can do anything with it) 
    0100ff0001000000000001003c8601003c8601002c00030000000000240100000f000000000000007f9698007f9698007f9698007f9698000000000000002041000000000000000000000000

    hex is missing purify spell (got this information out of an old elements.data file I've been reading through)

    hex runs EVERYTHING

    And do you know how its written to the server? Its in a .conf or a .data file the you edit. Both of which can be read and edited with the nano command on the linux server and in notepad on a normal PC. Hex runs everything, but the hex is fine or you wouldnt even be able to CREATE the orbs. Were talking values, not data. IF the data is corrupt, it wouldnt work, everyone would crash trying to make / use it, but it works fine. The only issues would be an invalid value and if that were the case, again EVERYONE WHO BOUGHTIT WOULD CRASH.

    Hex =/= client crashes occasionally.

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