Archer > ?

I share your opinion that the PvE content of this game is mostly dull and inconsequential, but there are many players out there navigating the PvE universe, and it would make sense for us to give our advice to them if they ask, since we find it so "easy."

@Ast: I'll keep that in mind if EVER I find myself bored enough to be up for that

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I seem to remember Aesthor being more troll-like before. What is this...this...

I am still troll-like, but I must help the archerlings ._.

TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »

Archers > BM in mass PvP, but I consider BM > Archers in 1v1 self buffed ofc, unless the BM doesn't know how to stun-lock and is a 1 weapon path BM (which isn't end-game).

Actually archers are just bottom of the food chain 1v1. Their usefulness goes up when there's more people, because they make GREAT distractions if focused and are deadly when being overlooked/ignored b:victory

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

How come Aes is coming back all of a sudden? LoL got repetitive?

I never played LoL @_@ I've been on HoN and a certain other game I cannot name because it's an MMO but it is made by Blizzard.

I am on the forums a lot because class is boring.

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I never played LoL @_@ I've been on HoN and a certain other game I cannot name because it's an MMO but it is made by Blizzard.

I am on the forums a lot because class is boring.

I enjoy LoL

lol....I don't mind "archerling:)" and I too sit and watch AH waiting for something interesting to show up in WC. Agreed PvE is sorta boring but its what I have to do to level....I am also on a PvE server, which if I was to start over I would probably play on a PvP server just so there was more to the game....

At this point I do run after run in fc just to try and level......Or TT run after TT run so I can try and make money or gear. So the PvE is boring but its a means to an end. I wish I could do it easy but without spending lots of real world money its a slow and often frustrating challenge. I haven't seen people make those bosses look easy, normally they die over and over:)

I am learning a lot thank you for all the feedback and banter its good to hear all your opinions. I would not consider myself a complete newb but I definitely am still not a master of any of it. I hate the idea of buying tokens to make the skills because I see some of the sage archer skills in AH all the time for like 200k.......It would be my luck to spend 8mil and get 2 skills that I can't give away:) I have noticed in the game market that lots of people want to sell but few people are actually buying...atleast not for the inflated prices being asked.

I realize that until it shows up in AH that is my only option but hate that I see so many mor e demon skills for less....Makes me think about switching my culti:)

altweina wrote: »

lol....I don't mind "archerling:)" and I too sit and watch AH waiting for something interesting to show up in WC. Agreed PvE is sorta boring but its what I have to do to level....I am also on a PvE server, which if I was to start over I would probably play on a PvP server just so there was more to the game....

At this point I do run after run in fc just to try and level......Or TT run after TT run so I can try and make money or gear. So the PvE is boring but its a means to an end. I wish I could do it easy but without spending lots of real world money its a slow and often frustrating challenge. I haven't seen people make those bosses look easy, normally they die over and over:)

I am learning a lot thank you for all the feedback and banter its good to hear all your opinions. I would not consider myself a complete newb but I definitely am still not a master of any of it. I hate the idea of buying tokens to make the skills because I see some of the sage archer skills in AH all the time for like 200k.......It would be my luck to spend 8mil and get 2 skills that I can't give away:) I have noticed in the game market that lots of people want to sell but few people are actually buying...atleast not for the inflated prices being asked.

I realize that until it shows up in AH that is my only option but hate that I see so many mor e demon skills for less....Makes me think about switching my culti:)

Wait... switching your culti? So you could find no books in AH at all? b:chuckle

Aes plays DoTA? or just HoN ><

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well no, I didn't consider you a "noob."

But I consider him a noob.

altweina wrote: »

I realize that until it shows up in AH that is my only option but hate that I see so many mor e demon skills for less....Makes me think about switching my culti:)

If you really can't afford to buy or pack the books... then by all means... do switch to demon. Since on the budget that you are operating on... you won't be a decent sage.

I am sorry sometimes things I say are not clear.....I don't mind being called a noob cause compared to someone i vary much am. I also agree when you comment on my budget. I bought 20 gold the other day to buy packs. This is a rarity for me.....I don't spend real money on game except once in awhile....I have saved enough "game gold" from drops and stuff to buy enough tokens to rank 8 a toon. I think this is pretty good...but do I have lunar this and that....No I don't. Will I +10 my weapon, probably not unless I learn how to make some money better than I am which I why I am nervous about archer......Sins can do so much more it seems, thus easier to make money on my own not relying on others.

It might surprise you but I have played for awhile.....but I tend to not focus on one toon. Arch is my first server but I have two toons over 90 and a few 70's I tend to get bored with one.

I think of 450 tokens (4.5 mil) as alot at my current experience level. When you figure that I am making money off tt drops from the random pick up squads it is from my perspective. I really do appreciate all the kind help:) I wish you people were on my server:)

Well played archer > everything b:cool b:avoid

GlottalStop - Raging Tide wrote: »

I totally disagree; venos are, even with their nixes. I know, I've played one. Maybe a few random players managed to frighten a few players but as a whole, venos are better for farming. And they've even been surpassed in that. b:sad

That is true. Venos were always weak and when nixes became obsolete that became all too obvious. I did forget about venos lol.

You know venos can be permanent immune.. Who needs a nix if people cant hit you for 20ish seconds.

b:surrender Should see Korren hacks.. He is always immune.

Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »

A well played veno can make things go very smoothly, and not just in nirvana.

Well played venos are easy to overlook, however, because they make things faster for everyone.

Edit: but I can agree that venos could use some luster -- earthflame stole a lot of their sparkle, and the lack of gear support for pets hurts their endgame (where people build up their gear). So... they struggle?

I was talking about pvp?

Debuffs are great but my opinion at the time nixes were killing everyone was to fix the bleed and buff venos.

Well okay, I understand that not everyone reads all the posts before they reply, so before the discussion about venos goes any further, this was the train of thought:

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Actually archers are just bottom of the food chain 1v1. Their usefulness goes up when there's more people, because they make GREAT distractions if focused and are deadly when being overlooked/ignored b:victory

GlottalStop - Raging Tide wrote: »

I totally disagree; venos are, even with their nixes. I know, I've played one. Maybe a few random players managed to frighten a few players but as a whole, venos are better for farming. And they've even been surpassed in that. b:sad

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That is true. Venos were always weak and when nixes became obsolete that became all too obvious. I did forget about venos lol.

Which means I was talking about the state of venos in a 1v1, PvP situation. Feel free to add your opinions about venos in other situations, but please be aware that I have not addressed those "other situations" in my posts.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Venos are decent in group PvP for sure. I'd imagine demon venos to be able to put up quite a fight solo, but seriously how many venos on your server do open world PK?

This is a similar situation archers are in. They're still highly useful in groups, like in TW, but the skill curve is much steeper for 1v1. There are only handful of real archer PKers (and by real I mean I see them outside of SZ, not standing around Arch white named) left on HT.