Sage Archers On the rise?

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  • andrei94
    andrei94 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    guys if i go on pure dex (i dont need fist,im archer-.-) whats beter to be sage or demon i wan be pve :) and give alot DD XD im 70 and i steal 79 barb agro whit my slight shot -10 aps and rank equipment so pls tel meb:victory
  • lmaonade1xp
    lmaonade1xp Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Do you really mean to say that, on lost city, you have people stupid enough to stand within range of barrage (that does enough damage to matter) for an entire 12 seconds?

    yes lol, some people are heavy cash shoppers who don't bother to learn the game (not like there's much to learn anyhow) and fail to realize that while they might be able to "tank" the BoA, squishy teammates near them will not be able to.

    It's so hilarious it's almost sad, almost.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    yes lol, some people are heavy cash shoppers who don't bother to learn the game (not like there's much to learn anyhow) and fail to realize that while they might be able to "tank" the BoA, squishy teammates near them will not be able to.

    It's so hilarious it's almost sad, almost.

    Hmm, a way to TK. I see... b:chuckle
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    94 Sage Veno
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  • IshidaUryuu - Raging Tide
    IshidaUryuu - Raging Tide Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I am sage... and I am pretty sure my +12 r8 does more damage then your archer. And if an archer can reach 5aps unspark... why won't he just do 5aps sparked?

    So pro ppl are forgetting that Sage Bow Mastery > Demon Bow Mastery damagewise its a 15% more increase so basically the higher the refine on the bow the more that 15% damage is gonna hurt demon archers..... Im demon and thinking about going sage but im waiting on getting my SoT and Nirvana leggings first before thinking about it since i have all demon skills except for Barrage of Arrows >.>
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    yes lol, some people are heavy cash shoppers who don't bother to learn the game (not like there's much to learn anyhow) and fail to realize that while they might be able to "tank" the BoA, squishy teammates near them will not be able to.

    It's so hilarious it's almost sad, almost.

    So true lol. Many heavily cash shopped Barbs/Bms will hang out in Barrage for hours and just keep doing their thing and its hilarious. Barrage is more like a gentle spring rain falling over them, or annoying little bugs tickling, than anything deadly - unless purge procs i guess (but everyone uses R8 now). Of course they dont pay attention to people around them not having vita gems and +11 gear and 25-30k hp and dropping.

    Barrage is also very unpredictable dmg wise, your initial wave might hit 2k and they think its np to hang around tanking that crappy DD, but next wave you get high end attack and finally have energy for Frenzy and crit 12k. Ive done that mistake myself to b:surrender. Some guys BoA hits you 1k and you think its some newbie and you dont bother move than he hits 5k and 8k crits you're dead.

    But even if most people run out of range pretty fast i dont see that as a argument to never use 12 sec immune with BoA. Using immune pot ensures you to live and not get stunned for 12 sec. You might also open on a stationary target, you might open on someone that's chain stunned, open on a cata or chrystal etc. If you predict your chances of zenning to be more than a few sec you might wanna consider Ironguard Powder over anything else.
  • lmaonade1xp
    lmaonade1xp Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    But even if most people run out of range pretty fast i dont see that as a argument to never use 12 sec immune with BoA. Using immune pot ensures you to live and not get stunned for 12 sec. You might also open on a stationary target, you might open on someone that's chain stunned, open on a cata or chrystal etc. If you predict your chances of zenning to be more than a few sec you might wanna consider Ironguard Powder over anything else.

    This. And this is also where demon BoA shines, shorter damage interval + immune pot = maximum damage within the 12 seconds you get.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    You can also barrage a cat lol
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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  • Nadis - Sanctuary
    Nadis - Sanctuary Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    If everyone is thinking about aps I dont see why they rolled archer. Why not just go BM and get higher defences atleast.

    For those who will say its easier to get aps as archer I'd say its easier to die as an archer without BP and having LA which is a broken armor that has low defences on both ends.

    IMO Demon > Sage archer any day since archers are made to use bows not fists/claws.
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    So pro ppl are forgetting that Sage Bow Mastery > Demon Bow Mastery damagewise its a 15% more increase so basically the higher the refine on the bow the more that 15% damage is gonna hurt demon archers..... Im demon and thinking about going sage but im waiting on getting my SoT and Nirvana leggings first before thinking about it since i have all demon skills except for Barrage of Arrows >.>

    your an idiot this was disproved like 7 pages back

    hell this was disproved 2 years ago
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    If everyone is thinking about aps I dont see why they rolled archer. Why not just go BM and get higher defences atleast.

    For those who will say its easier to get aps as archer I'd say its easier to die as an archer without BP and having LA which is a broken armor that has low defences on both ends.

    IMO Demon > Sage archer any day since archers are made to use bows not fists/claws.

    Archer is more fun in TW than BM lol...

    besides, it's simple matter to just hyper up a sin for farming and still have your archer for TW. I know a couple of archers on Sanct have been doing that. That said, I agree that cultivation choice shouldn't be based on how well either side can claw farm.
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Nadis - Sanctuary
    Nadis - Sanctuary Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Archer is more fun in TW than BM lol...

    besides, it's simple matter to just hyper up a sin for farming and still have your archer for TW. I know a couple of archers on Sanct have been doing that. That said, I agree that cultivation choice shouldn't be based on how well either side can claw farm.

    Kinda why I went back to playing archer, barb wasnt to much fun in TW/PK, was to easy to play and to few buttons to hit. b:surrender
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