Warmachine's Axe Warrior/Blademaster PvP Guide

i dont agree with the fist - pve only statement. proly ppl discussed it already, but 16 pages of comments.. best pvper bm is axe+fist combination with descent refines ofc. the real good way to kill most of the targets is stun+dps, and axes give u one more stun move - drake bash. realy the best wy to play bm is switching among the all weapons. u have to be fast-fingered but thats a chalange. with sword and spear u got extra ranged attacs.
fist+axe combo

Drake Bash -switch to fist (switch on your internal timer on) - Roar of the Pride - continue using fist - Aeolian Blade (if u got the 79 smack skill better use it instead) - switch to axe and hit with drake bash again and continue the cycle.

what comes in hand here:
u need to have questing expirience - not lvling from 30 to 80 with oracles. u need to feel the when stun expires so u can use another one. overlaping stuns is not allowed.
basic axe+fist build:

leave vit and mag at 5
everything else u put at str/dex following the axe and fist requirements.

then u make sure u get some interval gear. u may not reach 5 aps thats and over kill anyway. but every second matters.

i may be stupid and i may not be, the topic is sticky so the new ppl deserve a fresh update on that.

good guide thanx for the stunlock info.

what im doing is.
run to them with sprint- occult ice ( 1st.cyclone then then fire dmg glich) then drake bash> change to fist and hit as soon as it end roar... any 1 would die by that time. fire DMG FTW !!

Dinomanz - Lost City wrote: »

Nice guide and can't wait for the video and screenshots! Maybe you can have a skill show?

well i use three str two dex so is that a good build i plan on goin demon b:shutupb:surrender

deant wrote: »

i dont agree with the fist - pve only statement. proly ppl discussed it already, but 16 pages of comments.. best pvper bm is axe+fist combination with descent refines ofc. the real good way to kill most of the targets is stun+dps, and axes give u one more stun move - drake bash. realy the best wy to play bm is switching among the all weapons. u have to be fast-fingered but thats a chalange. with sword and spear u got extra ranged attacs.
fist+axe combo


agreed bm is not as eazy as most think ,fail bms r ppl who cant think on there toes in combat. bms r the most diverse class im90 wit 7k evasion and good at killin barbs in pvp but hate to fight robes. end game- bms have too be skilled at gameing

You're posting in a guide that's two and a half years old and hasn't been updated in as long, was made before 99% of the server knew the benefits of -int, and even though I believe Warmachine still plays I'm almost positive he's all path (for a reason).

As for shards, ambers in your armor suck but they're fine for vit builds to have in their weapons. Missing stuns sucks. Garnets are great early game and for pve but I think 125 pdef for 40 mil (Sanctuaries current cost) is much better spent for Vit stones or JoSDs. At level 100 you'll have about 15k buffed pdef, or 20k+ pdef with Rank gear so 125 pdef a stone really isn't worth it. Saphires are great for pvp, but not as good for pve. JoSD are your best shards, Vit stones next (helps with hp and defenses), and I prefer to refine necklace/belts for defense and shard hp prior to getting those.

i must admit ive read a lot on the BM up to this point but realy like the content you have and im looking forward to seeing more ,Im currently atl lvl 86 and working it slow and in an effort to learn more of the Axe Mastery,this is good advice i look forward to seeing more b:victory

I would ask something. According to Lyndura' guide in the Build section we can read that we can have mixed build (there is the Axe/Hammer and Sword/Blade). But what if i would like to have a build for Axe/Hammer and Fist/Claw? For the first i need 6 STR for the sec i need 4 DEX, so what do i put onto the VIT? Or is it impossible to have these two path togethet?

I see. But if i cant afford the shards for vit? Would the 5 Str, 3 Dex, 1 Vit (or 6, 2, 1) okay for the two path?

I think my problem is that i want aoe attacks (axe) and use fists together.
But the axes require STR, while for the fist needed lots of Dex. And how can i wear HA with fist? I need LA, don't I?

Sry for my problems

MsSeraphine - Archosaur wrote: »

I see. But if i cant afford the shards for vit? Would the 5 Str, 3 Dex, 1 Vit (or 6, 2, 1) okay for the two path?

I think my problem is that i want aoe attacks (axe) and use fists together.
But the axes require STR, while for the fist needed lots of Dex. And how can i wear HA with fist? I need LA, don't I?

Sry for my problems

There are multiple threads on the first page regarding this. The simple answer is you don't need vit, but if you feel safer going 6/3/1 or 5/4/1 then you will still be fine finding it in other gear.

I had 3 vit from levels 1-100 and never had an hp problem with moderate gear, flawless citrine shards, and +2-4 on my refines and I tanked all my BHs/TT runs. Vit is for people who don't know their class or don't pay attention. I wasn't talking about vit stones (I actually think the suck) I was just talking about using flawless or immaculate shards before endgame.

The 3 strength for axes covers the 2.5 str required for HA armor and .5 dex req. BMs usually agree LA is a bad thing except for the level 99 TT LA gear because two pieces gives -int as a set bonus. One place you can "save" stat points is at level 70 you get the best axe (calamity axes) till 90 or 99 so there is less need to add to strength for a while because you have axes set for 20+ levels.

Thanks for the info on axe blademasters. i'm new to the bm class and this helped a lot.

Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »

There are multiple threads on the first page regarding this. The simple answer is you don't need vit, but if you feel safer going 6/3/1 or 5/4/1 then you will still be fine finding it in other gear.

I had 3 vit from levels 1-100 and never had an hp problem with moderate gear, flawless citrine shards, and +2-4 on my refines and I tanked all my BHs/TT runs. Vit is for people who don't know their class or don't pay attention. I wasn't talking about vit stones (I actually think the suck) I was just talking about using flawless or immaculate shards before endgame.

The 3 strength for axes covers the 2.5 str required for HA armor and .5 dex req. BMs usually agree LA is a bad thing except for the level 99 TT LA gear because two pieces gives -int as a set bonus. One place you can "save" stat points is at level 70 you get the best axe (calamity axes) till 90 or 99 so there is less need to add to strength for a while because you have axes set for 20+ levels.

Listen to him, I've been putting 3 str 1 dex 1 vit every odd lvl and I regret it because i cant equip when i should be able to. 3/2 per lvl is best and you dont lack hp

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am pure str, so i go http://pwcalc.com/cdadac7f6a0b4cc9

Dex is capped at 200 green, vit, magic are 3 base (doesn't matter about green). All the rest is in str.

thanks for your help

I agree with your guide, mostly, but for the weapon shards, yes accuracy shards would help, but imo, not enough to make a better benefit than accuracy rings and garnets