Game is dead ? SUCK IT UP!
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Kingdom was already dead when TW rewards became mirages, honey.
Too true, my mistake. b:shutup0 -
Lutirica - Harshlands wrote: »well when the game is dead there is no reason to play is there?
Oh god.... you are about as sharp as beach ball.
I would explain it to you again, but you would fail to grasp simply presented concepts again, I know it.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »Oh god.... you are about as sharp as beach ball.
I would explain it to you again, but you would fail to grasp simply presented concepts again, I know it.
I'm telling you, Yulk's damn disease is bloody contagious. We should kill it with napalm and holy water before it multiplies! b:angry0 -
Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lol, just have to say something.
PVE gets boring when you do it 5000 times over and over, PVP is the only fun endgame resource. Should back up your comments before you post something like this.
Uhm nope...it's not the ONLY endgame resource. and you, obviously do not see the bigger picture. might object if i quote you from another thread you obviously didn't "get" ...Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Said next week, I will laugh to death if they add a new set of gear that is better than rank gear. b:laugh
Then I will say, I FRIGGING TOLD YOU NOW GO EMO AND DIE.
Oh but i think you DO get the idea i'm trying to get across to people do you ?Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »I actually think it will happen, its just something that PWE would do.
Give a kid a toy let him play for a little bit then take it away~ thats how they do business.
do you not see the utter uselessness of your words ? Your mad cause they bring out something that eminates POWAARRR RAAAWWWGGRHRRHH
But what your forgetting is... they cant sell their R8 nor 9... <.<
Read that post you commented on again... THEY WILL bring out new endgame content as well as TW changes...
They WILL bring out even better gear that will more than likely be on the SAME ground as R8 or 9, or *gasps* maybe even better !?
And then the people who got their rank 8 or 9 will be on the receiving end... cause guess who spent all their money on something they cant sell to be temporairly famous ?
exactly, they did.PK / PVP has always been the endgame feature for most MMORPGs, why the hell are you in a PVE server? just to kill monsters over and over and over all day every day?
Yes O.o ... Oh and i have fun with guildies on skype while we run an instance for 2 or 3 hours on end. Last week we had a ton of fun dieing to harpy, which is our factions next goald to be able to beat. we did research, had our fun and will have our fun achieving that goal.Why do you TRY TO GET good gear? To kill the same monster your pet can solo?
Yup and i'll share another not so big scret with you, i also have a herc. But i run around fB89 tanking majority of the bosses in human form and try that with alot of stuff too. I even stand up for the non-herced/nixed population cause i notice with a little bit more patience and less "C'mon hurry it up will you, I have an FCC at 4, 2 fb's at 5 and i got a wb to skin before i head into TW tonight" attitutde, the game STAYS fun.
Your point being ? =\Why do you duel? Just to find out how it looks when people 1 shot you?
If i dig in my memory i say of the few duels i had i got 1 shotted maybe... 3 times and that was by an archer critting the hell outta me.
I duel mainly cause i'm bored waiting on someone or because, yes, someone has better gear than me and i wonder if i with my LESSER gear at that time can beat him and funny enough... i have . and this was a BM that knew how to utilize their stunlock perfectly fine and had good damage, i take pride in that little fact. maybe you should too.Think about it, everything on endgame involves PK/PVP and if you're not at the same or higher level as your oponent, then poor you. Your character becomes useless and unwanted. b:chuckle
Pretty much moot point here... your the one advertising PVP/PK <.< this has no effect on me.All you need is something to believe in. -Solar_one. <-- mah snoockums, mah hubby, mah eberyfing.
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Ninnuam - Sanctuary wrote: »I never said I was a good DD. Having 200 base vit at one point didn't leave much room to DD.
You missed my point entirely though. I never QQed about new players coming in and kicking me off my "pro" pedestal. I never said I was even on a pro pedestal in the first place. I said I was having fun TWing and pking people on equal terms. In other words, I died as much as I killed (or rather, got to live being a cleric). I QQed because PWE gave them the opportunity to use their credit card, and their credit card alone to instantly become better than someone who invested a year of hard work into getting their gear. I'm not speaking only about myself here, I'm speaking about everyone who was playing the game since day one.
You're the one that insists that player skill is actually a factor in this game. Had you actually been playing long as I (we) have, you'd know better. I gave you a case-in-point explanation as to how and why. You're simply to full of yourself to see a different point of view.
Actually no, i see alot of different views and yours is one of them. and as much as i totally understand your frustration it simply has no point and as i said, reeks of childish "it's not fair" mentallity...
i am far from full of myself cause as i said, i am not too proud to admit i was wrong about something and neither am i about this game.Well exactly. Don't tell me you don't see anything wrong with that? The game was struggling since the introduction of those blasted anni packs. My former guild leader was the first person on the server (if not the game) to FARM a lunar ring. PWE releases anni packs the next day and suddenly 50% of the server has the same ring for charging $10. Needless to say, they quit and never looked back. You're going to tell me I'm QQing over an ice cream again. I'm trying to tell you that PWE finds new ways to kill any and all sense of achievement a person gets out of the game.
Rank 8 is doing the exact same thing, to more people, and on a bigger scale. But again you most likely can't see the bigger picture here since you've only been around for half a year. You didn't see the uproar anni packs brought, you didn't see the valentine day fiasco, you didn't witness DQ horses being put into the cash shop, you didn't have to level to 100 before hypers, oracle sales and triple BHs.
Apparently you dont... and i'll show you whyI would be HAPPY if PWE gave the new players a fair option to accomplish some of things us old timers struggled to get. Making rank 8 available for $50 is NOT the way to go about it. Re-read my previous post as to why it pisses off cash shoppers, non cash shoppers, pvp and pve players alike. It pisses off everyone who actually played this moronic game for the past year. Everyone busted their *** off in one way or another to accomplish something. Making better gear available to everyone for a mere fraction of the price (and cash shop only no less) is a really, really low blow on PWE's part.
I came to PWI from another mmo which was PvP only. You were free game to everyone after the first 30 mins you spent playing. I enjoyed the pvp part, I didn't enjoy the drama that came with it.
So I rolled a PvE server in hopes to still have my fun farming my gear and slowly leveling up in order to be able to wear my new gear. PWI, even on PvE servers, has TW every week, and gives the players an option to enter pk mode at will past level 30. If it adds to my fun to do those things, why would it matter to you?
I can ask you the same question now if i'm not PVPing or PKing at my end game? and try to show YOU, as fully convinced you are, there is more to this game than that.No, not all all. Had you actually read my previous post, I said that people who aren't interested in pvp are affected by the rep sale as well. I've been blue named for a very long time. I stopped having fun with pk when it stopped being about farming higher level gear to stay on top and started being about who can charge more zen in order to get godly refines. My refines are still the way they were a year ago and that doesn't bother me one bit. I have my fun leveling alts and farming nirvana stuff just to look pretty.
Let's say for discussion's sake, Me and my husband rolled r8 or 9 for what ever purpose we might have, NEVER being interested in pvp or pk what so ever, never TWed but now along with a ****load of other PVE people roll that side and we say: "Hey, we'll join your faction for a TW to withstand the opposing side." Regardless of the fact we even know how TW worked and if you knew the opposing side had an army of R8 or R9.... would you say no ? i doubt it.Doesn't change the fact pwe royally screwed over anyone who spent the last year getting tt99, rank8 and nirvana sets. Which again, is the majority of level 100+ on both PvE and especially PvP servers. PWE didn't shoot themselves in the foot with this one. They took a chainsaw and butchered PWI into a quadriplegic, Texas Chainsaw Massacre style.
I'm still working on my tt's... still working on getting a sh*tload of other stuff i want. which isn't r8or r9... i am telling you there is more to this than just that man.
and this is whyfrankieraye wrote: »Hey guys,
I know a lot of you are shocked about the recent General Summer's Sale items and their pricing. PWI has been out for 2+ years now, and even finding someone in full Rank 8 is still very rare, let alone Rank 9. Under the original conditions, even one player on a server obtaining a rank 9 ring would have been next to impossible, considering the amount of rep, chips, and Medals of Glory necessary. Remember, these original conditions were created by developers from a different country and different gaming culture--one where it is commonplace and even expected to play for eight hours a day, every day--a place where level 105 was achieved within three months of its release.
It's no secret that obtaining this gear has been next to impossible for the vast majority of PWI players, and a lot of our work in the past month has involved bringing it within reach, both through the Dragon Points system and through this month's sales.
We realize that some of the players who are the most upset are those who have spent countless hours farming their TT and Nirvana gear, only to see this Rank gear that is more powerful now take less effort to obtain. I understand the frustration that is felt from this, but the nature of the MMO is to constantly be evolving over time, where more powerful gear is constantly made available, rendering older gear less powerful by comparison. Many of these players have decided to take action, adapting by selling their old gear for millions of coins to buy gold and start making their way toward Rank 8.
PWI is evolving. We realize that one of the major complaints about the Rising Tide expansion was that we were too focused on creating the new races and classes, and didn't create enough new content for the existing high level players. Let me assure you that this has been taken into account with the upcoming Genesis expansion. We are bringing in tons of new content which includes new end-game features that involve more guild and TW related mechanisms, along with a ton of other stuff.
In the past few weeks we've been spending a lot of time pooling and putting together lots of new information about this huge expansion, and we'll be releasing it to you in a very fun way next week.
There is a lot of exciting content on the horizon, and we hope that you'll continue to stick with us to enjoy everything that we have to offer.
Thanks all.
Props goes to Chanchale for noticing this.
See what's in red ? You think r8 and 9 is the end of it all.
I'm trying to make you see there is a 50/50 chance there will be something even more powerfull than that OR something that is up to par to withstand an r8 or 9er in the game with the next expansion, ALOT of you whiners are not waiting for. NEW end game content and your precious TW gets more features.
INSTEAD of now throwing a tantrum along the lines of "IT"S NOT FAIR!!! *cry cry cry ragr age rage*" stick it out.
cause didn't you say it yourself ? First it was TT, then it was Lunar, then it was FCC and now it's nirvana/r8 or9 that's endgame gear ?
trust me... as much as all the others were rendered less powerfull.. so will this r8 and 9 stuff.
Count 1 and 1 together, see the bigger picture instead of clinging to your assumptions that your efforts and end gear is useless because of a sale.
r8and9 cant be traded nor sold, as far as i am aware. wanna bet that the people who bought their R8 and/or 9 will be doing same you are now as soon as this new expansion with new content is released ?
Guess who will be able to get the new gear first ? Exactly, the peopl who didn't follow the masses, sat on their money and watched alot of people running around, screaming like little kids in fear of something that by the end of the next new expansion is rendered LESS usefull.All you need is something to believe in. -Solar_one. <-- mah snoockums, mah hubby, mah eberyfing.
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Meh kinda late to post it but I dont really care atm. I just learned of the new sales in the game[wasnt on when it happened apparently o.o] and I have to say I find them to be ****. Yeah its my own opinion but im entitled to it right now so if you wanna whine and b*itch about what I say then go ahead, your welcome to it. I see so many people going on aboutcosts of things, how catshop prices are insane, that they are gonna quit cause of those little things but whats it gonna do anyway? You quit, someone else will take your place, its not like you made that much of a difference in PW's pockets.
The new rank badges in the boutique, are quite frankly, the EASY way to get rank and rep, along with the gear that comes with it. Your all more then welcome to take that path but I say it takes the fun outta the game, and it just means you wanna show off how fast you climbed the ladder or whatever to a group of people WHO COULD CARE LESS. Id rather go through the quests, get the SCARCE drops, and earn my rank that way then to simply waste my money on buying it. Economy sucks RL anyway so Id rather save what money I can then spend it on here.
Anyway, -shrugs- I dont care what everyone thinks of my post, take it down, flame it, whatever. My opinion, my words, **** it to fit your purposes however you want. Just wanted to say SOMETHING on the matter is all.0 -
My 2 cents worth
I,ve been playing this game sence i think March 2009 and in that time i have seen many changes some i have liked some i have not ... but i have never complained about them YES i have done my fair share of hard work grinding for mats and coin to get that ....oh so cool weapon or gear ( as well as use real money)....... To yet log in the next day to see a new player from 3 days ago hit lvl 70 .. and be decked out with all the latest gear & refines ( thanks to the credit card ) ok yes i Exaggerated maybe bit but you get what im saying . Do i care.. Do i feel cheated " NO " its his/her Game its the way they wish to play and makes no differance to me at all .
And i just know the PK TW players out there are likely to ask me if i play PK or TW and the answer to that is NO it dont interest me in anyway and if i did play It would still make no differance to me if someone has gone out and used the credit card to get all the latest gear. I will still wake up the next day and go make a coffee befor i log into the game.
All you players out there complaining this isnt fair that isnt fair im bored theres nothing to do ..... SUCK IT UP and move with the times the world dont revolve around YOU0 -
Solar_one - Sanctuary wrote: »My 2 cents worth
I,ve been playing this game sence i think March 2009 and in that time i have seen many changes some i have liked some i have not ... but i have never complained about them YES i have done my fair share of hard work grinding for mats and coin to get that ....oh so cool weapon or gear ( as well as use real money)....... To yet log in the next day to see a new player from 3 days ago hit lvl 70 .. and be decked out with all the latest gear & refines ( thanks to the credit card ) ok yes i Exaggerated maybe bit but you get what im saying . Do i care.. Do i feel cheated " NO " its his/her Game its the way they wish to play and makes no differance to me at all .
And i just know the PK TW players out there are likely to ask me if i play PK or TW and the answer to that is NO it dont interest me in anyway and if i did play It would still make no differance to me if someone has gone out and used the credit card to get all the latest gear. I will still wake up the next day and go make a coffee befor i log into the game.
All you players out there complaining this isnt fair that isnt fair im bored theres nothing to do ..... SUCK IT UP and move with the times the world dont revolve around YOU
You know whats funny? You're right.
Those who don't PK or PVP are the ones that don't care about it.
That is your gameplay, keep doing it, that's no biggie to anyone.
However don't say "SUCK IT UP" if you're just having 1/2 of the cake, the other 1/2 is the PK/PVP/DD part, I know it does not interest you, and it's fine since everyone has their own way of playing this game.
However for the most part of the people who actually want to compete on TW, PK, PVP, tournaments, cube, WB events (where high damage DOES MATTER), PVP events, etc. etc. etc. it does matter.
I already moved on and waiting for my next B2P game where this **** doesnt happen b:chuckleWTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »You know whats funny? You're right.
Those who don't PK or PVP are the ones that don't care about it.
That is your gameplay, keep doing it, that's no biggie to anyone.
However don't say "SUCK IT UP" if you're just having 1/2 of the cake, the other 1/2 is the PK/PVP/DD part, I know it does not interest you, and it's fine since everyone has their own way of playing this game.
However for the most part of the people who actually want to compete on TW, PK, PVP, tournaments, cube, WB events (where high damage DOES MATTER), PVP events, etc. etc. etc. it does matter.
I already moved on and waiting for my next B2P game where this **** doesnt happen b:chuckle
Yes Yaniino you do make a good point and i agree with you , In some way what i said was a bit harsh ... But you cant please everyone ( find me a mmo game where there is 100 % player Satisfaction ill check it out )
But we all know it comes down to the all mighty dollar and if the company is making money from it then it will continue to go on yes an aspect of the game at this stage might seem dead to a lot of people and i can understand to them, it seems dead and unfair but thats only 1/2 of the cake . So really the game is dead when the company pulls the plug on it ..eg When it stops making money .0 -
AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »Props goes to Chanchale for noticing this.
See what's in red ? You think r8 and 9 is the end of it all.
I'm trying to make you see there is a 50/50 chance there will be something even more powerfull than that OR something that is up to par to withstand an r8 or 9er in the game with the next expansion, ALOT of you whiners are not waiting for. NEW end game content and your precious TW gets more features.
INSTEAD of now throwing a tantrum along the lines of "IT"S NOT FAIR!!! *cry cry cry ragr age rage*" stick it out.
cause didn't you say it yourself ? First it was TT, then it was Lunar, then it was FCC and now it's nirvana/r8 or9 that's endgame gear ?
trust me... as much as all the others were rendered less powerfull.. so will this r8 and 9 stuff.
Count 1 and 1 together, see the bigger picture instead of clinging to your assumptions that your efforts and end gear is useless because of a sale.
r8and9 cant be traded nor sold, as far as i am aware. wanna bet that the people who bought their R8 and/or 9 will be doing same you are now as soon as this new expansion with new content is released ?
Guess who will be able to get the new gear first ? Exactly, the peopl who didn't follow the masses, sat on their money and watched alot of people running around, screaming like little kids in fear of something that by the end of the next new expansion is rendered LESS usefull.
Its not that fact that ppl dont see that mmos evolve etc ...gears get replaced etc..
its that they put end game gear on sale for $72
theres no excuse for this type of faggotry.0 -
Solar_one - Sanctuary wrote: »Yes Yaniino you do make a good point and i agree with you , In some way what i said was a bit harsh ... But you cant please everyone ( find me a mmo game where there is 100 % player Satisfaction ill check it out )
But we all know it comes down to the all mighty dollar and if the company is making money from it then it will continue to go on yes an aspect of the game at this stage might seem dead to a lot of people and i can understand to them, it seems dead and unfair but thats only 1/2 of the cake . So really the game is dead when the company pulls the plug on it ..eg When it stops making money .
o .o
http://www.smartmoney.com/quote/PWRD/?story=charting
Why do you think they did this sale? It's already going that direction b:chuckle
Yeah I know you cant please everyone but there's ways to deal with both parts in a propper way and this wasnt it. b:surrenderWTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »oh really . . b:pleasedCortimis - 101 Demon Barbarian. 100% legit, no goonzs/no APS
Cortimi - 9X Demon Seeker. Total garbage and I will kill you with it anyways.0 -
If end game is R9/Warsoul then it aint on sale for $72. Also the R8 gear is not best for all classes. Certainly the vaunted 5.0 aps set is not going to be replaced by r8 and finally everyone does not have $72 to spend. There are still many non CSers who play and some of those do not have enough coin in game to get to R8.
This end of the game talk is nothing but the whine from a certain group of players whose feelings remain hurt because they can't gloat over everyone anymore. Its a good thing they didn't didn't nerf hercs/pheo..ream or that 5.0aps was not nerfed down to 3.0 cause they might have pulled their hair out etc.
Right now the sale has made a few more players more competitive and they are happy.
On another note clearly the "end game" has been reached by 1 or two players and so natural progression dictates a raise in level caps, higher level dungeons with more difficult mobs/bosses and more items to collect/farm for. Also I am very interested in seeing how these faction "houses" play out because it could add a very nice spin to an already very packed game.
Some additions I would like to see are:
1) Unbinding stone
2) Alliance Feature ala chat
3) Faction banks
4) A dedicated PvP area focussed on team PvP e.g. 3v3 or 4v4 with awards/prizes for achievements e.g. longest win streak etc
To my view there is still a whole lot more that can be done in PWI.0 -
Aelo - Harshlands wrote: »If end game is R9/Warsoul then it aint on sale for $72. Also the R8 gear is not best for all classes. Certainly the vaunted 5.0 aps set is not going to be replaced by r8 and finally everyone does not have $72 to spend. There are still many non CSers who play and some of those do not have enough coin in game to get to R8.
This end of the game talk is nothing but the whine from a certain group of players whose feelings remain hurt because they can't gloat over everyone anymore. Its a good thing they didn't didn't nerf hercs/pheo..ream or that 5.0aps was not nerfed down to 3.0 cause they might have pulled their hair out etc.
Right now the sale has made a few more players more competitive and they are happy.
On another note clearly the "end game" has been reached by 1 or two players and so natural progression dictates a raise in level caps, higher level dungeons with more difficult mobs/bosses and more items to collect/farm for. Also I am very interested in seeing how these faction "houses" play out because it could add a very nice spin to an already very packed game.
Some additions I would like to see are:
1) Unbinding stone
2) Alliance Feature ala chat
3) Faction banks
4) A dedicated PvP area focussed on team PvP e.g. 3v3 or 4v4 with awards/prizes for achievements e.g. longest win streak etc
To my view there is still a whole lot more that can be done in PWI.
1. 5.0 will remain being an issue until PWCN nerfs it somehow, who knows how're they gonna change it, which will happen, again, it has been announced.
2. I don't have rank gear, I was working for it, what I'm laughing of is that I could just get it on a snap, but what would be the point of it? <- this is the rant reason, we can get it, the problem is, what for? there's no fun anymore.
Why whoever posts people are QQing about rank gear think we cannot afford it? Gee, it's the other way around, we can, we just don't find a reason of why keep playing the game if there's nothing else to work for if the're gonna keep selling stuff. Why keep farming for hours if they're gonna sell it for cheap later? Hope you get the point now.
Heck I could even get rank 9 if I wanted to, I got the money for it, thats not biggie, but this is bs because it is not supposed to be this way b:thanks I could even afford 2 hercs and 2 nixes for my veno... but that'd be just a waste of money
3. @ your wants:
1) This would be nice to have.
2) ^
3) Uhm several games have faction banks and it ends up wrong, people going into the bank and stealing stuff... make characters for banking if your bank is not enough b:victory
4) >,> . . . wont comment...WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
ya i am wondering this 2 cos in a few days imma get my coins and i think i go for the rank gear.
OK first of i am on a pvp server and a BARB lv1xx i hate how redicolous the cash shopper kill me and INT is just fcked.
so if i wana we able 2 pk them back and oboy i do have a major long list of ppl i wana pk
only way i see it is A) let them roll me all my pwi life or get my credit card and pk them back 2 sz.
sadly i go for B here so now i wana still we a barb so INT is just not that preferable and
i hate how it lazy it works with stun aouto attack go get soem coffee and come back see ppl die.
R9 axes with major attack lv seem nice and make sence me still wana play a barb and a tank. and kill the freaking sin/bm INt players.
so for at least ONCE on the whole cashshopping history of pwi i think they made something right.
R9 will eveolv ather non INT classes where they belong.
as for the money i might we brong where but 72 bucks isnt really cheap but with this it will help the non INT classes deal with INt players or make it more balanced.
sadly i am kinda forced 2 cashshopp 2 we compatible with cashshoppers in generalb:surrender0 -
How can we suck it up when there is nothing left to suck!?!0
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AnimaBlanc - Sanctuary wrote: »*keeps fingers crossed 5th time is a charm and stupid forum editting system WILL put her text through* -.-
The economy of the game is screwed.
Yes, and we are ALL part of that. You. Me. Us. AND them. We all have a certain amount of greed in our habits, its called being human. If an item is wanted, it price is high. If its regarded useless, its price is low.
If you get one of those items that has a high value did you not always TRY and sell it for just a bit more than the going rate if you didnt need it ? Dont be a hypocrite and say you donated it to the nearest low level player you saw out of the goodness of your heart, because you HAVE. We all did.
I can honestly say I have not. I go to auction house and put it in and select time and let the system decide the starting price. Either that or I don't know people want it and NPC it. I'm always getting yelled at in games by my friends for selling my stuff too cheap.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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