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Nethare - Dreamweaver
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I am tired of the QQ about rep/rank, something you get from every quest anyway. This seems to be coming from three places: People who had endgame gear already, People who had cash shopped heavily for R8 etc. and people who think that the rank 9 will make PvP pointless and they will never be able to compete.
Endgame players.
What your issue really breaks down to from my perspective and how you have described it is that you are mad you can no longer kill everyone with the endgame gear you already have. The problem with this is that the rank 8, which is what will be common, only gives 3 out of the 12 pieces of equipment, you still have those other 9 to kick people's *** don't worry, and the rank 9 is just as prohibitively expensive as the super cash-shopped gear from before. Your gear still means something as it is since not everyone will have R9 like you seem to think in this post apocalypse world you have drawn for yourself of the future of the game.
You are also mad somewhat more legitimately that all the time you put into your gear will mean less. I contend that if you quit the game because your digital armor is less powerful in comparison with someone who spends thousands of dollars on a game than it was before then you are an idiot.
I also contend that you were playing for the wrong reason in the first place. If anyone here was playing this game to get items in it then you should quit now. If you want to go kill things for items to get better armor for a character so you can kill stronger things for items, rinse and repeat. Go play something in the Champions of Norrath genre.
This is an MMORPG, complaining about your altered endgame power and saying that you feel you have wasted your time since your armor is no longer as good in comparison to people who spend thousands of dollars on the game is missing the point. If you feel you have wasted your time because someone spending, lets cover this cost again why don't we, thousands of dollars can now have stronger equipment than you then you are ignoring or didn't have any fun getting there. The point of an MMO is to achieve a goal with people, the goal is irrelevant, the people are not. The reason people still play MMOs, specifically this one since you all seem to think it's dead, is you make friends in them, the friends are what makes this game fun not the endgame gear you were all working at getting for each other.
Does it hurt a bit that your weapon is now replaced by rank8, yes. Should you go find your group of friends and figure out the next goal to go after then, yes. Go have fun with some people in an MMO or don't go at all. If you were in this for the items please do quit since your probably that guy in my last squad that took everything way too seriously and made it less fun for everybody.
CSers
Ok I understand your frustration here. You spend a lot of money getting something that is now cheaper, R8. That is a legitimate issue and you should feel a little cheated. The other issue I have seen is, you spend a lot of money making OP gear and now there is more to get, you thought you were done or somethingb:chuckle. By the way, lets cover right now that your never done, that is the point. If the game actually had an "end" then they would lose people a lot since that group of friends would now no longer have a goal. I guess my problem with feeling too sorry for you guys is that all they did was make what you were already going to get more affordable and your mad about it..... Wait, what?
PvP
Now here is where I really don't see the issue at all. You could already cash shop to be OP in PvP, what is different? That what to buy is more blatant now? People seem to think that R9 will be everywhere and this is simply not true. Do the math on it's cost and you will find that it is just as prohibitively expensive as something like warsoul or 24 +10 vit stones and straight +12 gear. As for R8 which will become more common. R8 at most provides 3 pieces of equipment. For a lot of classes some of those items are not better than the nirvana and not just for the classes without -int on their rank gear. For instance in my final form when I am done getting gear, it will be solid nirvana. I will not use the R8 ring or chest piece. I will use the bow. But that is still only 1 item out of 12 pieces of gear. Most of which is still nirvana. So the R8 does not significantly change my endgame gear. Nor does having R8 change anything about my PvP skill. It definitely is not enough to allow me to win without skill.
Important note: R8 and R9 are both completely obtainable in game. Something PWI has been very very good about is making it possible to obtain everything without ever spending money. The DQ points system, something that people got mad about for some reason which I don't understand at all, was the final nail in this coffin by not only allowing you to get event gold for most cash shop items but also letting you get medals of glory, rep and chips AKA all of rank 8 and 9 from mob drops. FROM MOB DROPS. No money ever needed. This ability to obtain cash shop items in the game directly without buying it from another player who spent money is a rare feature in a free to play game and is something I think PWI should be commended not just for having in the first place but for maintaining and expanding.
Oh and to those of you who think all the old players are leaving and to those of you who read this and think I have no frame of reference or experience. Check this Registration Date: 04/04/2009
Endgame players.
What your issue really breaks down to from my perspective and how you have described it is that you are mad you can no longer kill everyone with the endgame gear you already have. The problem with this is that the rank 8, which is what will be common, only gives 3 out of the 12 pieces of equipment, you still have those other 9 to kick people's *** don't worry, and the rank 9 is just as prohibitively expensive as the super cash-shopped gear from before. Your gear still means something as it is since not everyone will have R9 like you seem to think in this post apocalypse world you have drawn for yourself of the future of the game.
You are also mad somewhat more legitimately that all the time you put into your gear will mean less. I contend that if you quit the game because your digital armor is less powerful in comparison with someone who spends thousands of dollars on a game than it was before then you are an idiot.
I also contend that you were playing for the wrong reason in the first place. If anyone here was playing this game to get items in it then you should quit now. If you want to go kill things for items to get better armor for a character so you can kill stronger things for items, rinse and repeat. Go play something in the Champions of Norrath genre.
This is an MMORPG, complaining about your altered endgame power and saying that you feel you have wasted your time since your armor is no longer as good in comparison to people who spend thousands of dollars on the game is missing the point. If you feel you have wasted your time because someone spending, lets cover this cost again why don't we, thousands of dollars can now have stronger equipment than you then you are ignoring or didn't have any fun getting there. The point of an MMO is to achieve a goal with people, the goal is irrelevant, the people are not. The reason people still play MMOs, specifically this one since you all seem to think it's dead, is you make friends in them, the friends are what makes this game fun not the endgame gear you were all working at getting for each other.
Does it hurt a bit that your weapon is now replaced by rank8, yes. Should you go find your group of friends and figure out the next goal to go after then, yes. Go have fun with some people in an MMO or don't go at all. If you were in this for the items please do quit since your probably that guy in my last squad that took everything way too seriously and made it less fun for everybody.
CSers
Ok I understand your frustration here. You spend a lot of money getting something that is now cheaper, R8. That is a legitimate issue and you should feel a little cheated. The other issue I have seen is, you spend a lot of money making OP gear and now there is more to get, you thought you were done or somethingb:chuckle. By the way, lets cover right now that your never done, that is the point. If the game actually had an "end" then they would lose people a lot since that group of friends would now no longer have a goal. I guess my problem with feeling too sorry for you guys is that all they did was make what you were already going to get more affordable and your mad about it..... Wait, what?
PvP
Now here is where I really don't see the issue at all. You could already cash shop to be OP in PvP, what is different? That what to buy is more blatant now? People seem to think that R9 will be everywhere and this is simply not true. Do the math on it's cost and you will find that it is just as prohibitively expensive as something like warsoul or 24 +10 vit stones and straight +12 gear. As for R8 which will become more common. R8 at most provides 3 pieces of equipment. For a lot of classes some of those items are not better than the nirvana and not just for the classes without -int on their rank gear. For instance in my final form when I am done getting gear, it will be solid nirvana. I will not use the R8 ring or chest piece. I will use the bow. But that is still only 1 item out of 12 pieces of gear. Most of which is still nirvana. So the R8 does not significantly change my endgame gear. Nor does having R8 change anything about my PvP skill. It definitely is not enough to allow me to win without skill.
Important note: R8 and R9 are both completely obtainable in game. Something PWI has been very very good about is making it possible to obtain everything without ever spending money. The DQ points system, something that people got mad about for some reason which I don't understand at all, was the final nail in this coffin by not only allowing you to get event gold for most cash shop items but also letting you get medals of glory, rep and chips AKA all of rank 8 and 9 from mob drops. FROM MOB DROPS. No money ever needed. This ability to obtain cash shop items in the game directly without buying it from another player who spent money is a rare feature in a free to play game and is something I think PWI should be commended not just for having in the first place but for maintaining and expanding.
Oh and to those of you who think all the old players are leaving and to those of you who read this and think I have no frame of reference or experience. Check this Registration Date: 04/04/2009
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What if I was to tell you that I'm in neither of the categories?b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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To this post im geting sick of all the QQ too.......0 -
Nethare - Dreamweaver wrote: »I am tired of the QQ.
Funny seeing how this is one wall-of-text qq post.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
I have a rank 6.5 on another version, and a level 100. It took me TWO YEARS to get her to this level. No Head Hunter, no Hypers, no..... anything.
But I come here and see people push buttoning their way to 100 in mere months, and I have seen a few in under a month.
Good for them. I am glad they have an opportunity to have what I have, level 100.
See in the end, it is not the gear that makes you or the level that defines you - it is YOU.
Your armor and equips merely give you an edge, more attack, more defense, more time staying alive.
In the end it is about skill - pure and simple. And no amount of $$ can buy that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
CSers who complain about others getting Rank 8 much cheaper have nothing to complain about.
To compliment the OP, a good portion of them have an image of exclusivity to gain the admiration and envy of other players. Others having Rank 8, they lose this. Now the admiration of them comes down more to skill and tactic than gear as no one will be impressed anymore by Rank 8.
I see no problem with this.
I somewhat feel for those who accomplish things by months and months of farming only to see something become readily available that one can buy with a day's work or less (or week if you earn **** for money) or a week's worth of farming. But again, this goes back to the notion that this has more to do with being admired and envied than feeling like one earned or accomplished something. One who truly feels this way will not give a flying **** about how others get it. One who has people to impress will be overly concerned about this. Sociology 101.0 -
nice sorrie bro...
and by the way, no matter what you say, people will still QQ all over the forum... you had just wasted your time making this thread...b:bye0 -
Well, you're right about the latter part of your post.. but it's ironic that you bothered registering just to post in this topic to tell someone else how much they waste their time making a topic about something that won't change. Speaking of wasting time.. :P0
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i have seen people with deep pockets in full nirvana,rank8 and 9 gear die horrible deaths..nothing changed and the gear does not aid u in kicking (a double s)..or protect u.Skilled pk in normal gear and nice weapon/skills can crush any rank biotch out there.0
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fwezzinkold1 wrote: »nice sorrie bro...
and by the way, no matter what you say, people will still QQ all over the forum... you had just wasted your time making this thread...b:bye
Your post is a bigger waste of time...
Well, if time is going to be wasted while playing in the dead game that is PWI...
OH WAIT. Arch still lags. Quests still happen. I can't walk in a non-starter area without running into people, and the servers are still running. Hrm... Yep. Sure signs that this game is dead. Over stating the state of this game is a bigger waste of time than expressing your opinion.0 -
NiaJade - Harshlands wrote: »In the end it is about skill - pure and simple. And no amount of $$ can buy that.
After packs came out the only skill that is left on this game is merchanting.0 -
Torsay - Sanctuary wrote: »After packs came out the only skill that is left on this game is merchanting.
I object. After packs came out the only skill that is left on this game is non-stop button mashing for extended periods of time. boo-boo *licks paws* b:sad[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
to the OP:
You seem to ignore the parts of the truth that don't mix well with your reasoning. Yes this is a MMO so community/multi-player related achievements are important, but this is a RPG (role playing game) were the goal is to build a character and to make it as strong as you can. Also these games have a very competitive character (who is best?). This last patch has screwed with the little balance that was in. Now you almost don't need to even play the game to achieve it, hence you don't deserve the "powers" you get.
Yes you can get 300k rep with DQ points. But you need to play 24/7 for like 2-3 years to get that, really 300k is not really possible w/o cash shop.
Tbh i don't mind that much this update as rank gear was just not really my goal (would be nice, but now it's hardly an achievement, maybe only for someone's credit card). I just wish that PWE would balance a bit these sales for free players too, at least for ones that work hard and deserve it, in a way free players create money too (who you think buys all that gold in AH? the gold fairy?).
Wish they made DQ points events from time to time. (like make 25 rep = 100 points for a week every few months) or add packs for 1-2 gold in even shop (untradable and all that comes from it untradable so bots don't make money from it).0 -
Many sat at the top of the game, and sure they fought their way to it. Something new comes in, and they yield an quit.
Things are not fair. That is how it is.
I do understand how you feel. But at the same time, have some sportmanship and atleast congratulate those that now can move up in Rank, regardless of how they received it.
And I think you should think about why it only takes one thing to push you out of the game - one you have worked so hard at, and dedicated so much time to.
Someone gets what you have, at a fraction of the cost... Well, good for them.
I sit in the game and used to fume at guilds handing out the ring and helms (event) to buds in the guild (first). I used to fume at wives that walked around 100% sponsored and co-leveled by their husbands (and most divorcing after someone richer was near - always looking for the better deal).
But - all in all, I think if we let petty things like this eat away at us, it sincerely does not help.
Rather, wish them well, congratulate their good fortune.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sekmeth - Raging Tide wrote: »Tbh i don't mind that much this update as rank gear was just not really my goal (would be nice, but now it's hardly an achievement, maybe only for someone's credit card).
You know.. alot of these folks that are getting Rank 8, never could of afforded it before. Not EVERYONE has a credit card (mine is even only debit).
Not everyone can go to the mom/dad/ingame spouse/guild and say - "I want - gimme" and not all can pull out a credit card and spend 2-3k w/o blinking.
So PWI .. gave to the masses only what a few could afford.
Good for them and good for those that are getting what it is they could only dream of at a fraction of the cost.
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Sekmeth - Raging Tide wrote: »to the OP:
You seem to ignore the parts of the truth that don't mix well with your reasoning. Yes this is a MMO so community/multi-player related achievements are important, but this is a RPG (role playing game) were the goal is to build a character and to make it as strong as you can. Also these games have a very competitive character (who is best?). This last patch has screwed with the little balance that was in. Now you almost don't need to even play the game to achieve it, hence you don't deserve the "powers" you get.
Yes you can get 300k rep with DQ points. But you need to play 24/7 for like 2-3 years to get that, really 300k is not really possible w/o cash shop.
Tbh i don't mind that much this update as rank gear was just not really my goal (would be nice, but now it's hardly an achievement, maybe only for someone's credit card). I just wish that PWE would balance a bit these sales for free players too, at least for ones that work hard and deserve it, in a way free players create money too (who you think buys all that gold in AH? the gold fairy?).
Wish they made DQ points events from time to time. (like make 25 rep = 100 points for a week every few months) or add packs for 1-2 gold in even shop (untradable and all that comes from it untradable so bots don't make money from it).
Things never used to be quick. You probably weren't around for that.
Which brings me to my next point... Anything in the game is 'farmable'. But, unlike your definition, it follows the true meaning of the word.
Farmable - Able to be farmed (past tense of farming), doesn't actually exist as a word.
Farming - Cultivating land, PWI definition is similar to grinding. Repeat instances until you get items for your gear or coin to use to pay for said gear. Most people use a combination of the two.
By calling something farmable, you accept that it will take a long time and perhaps significant investment in order to obtain said item. Thus, if you are unprepared to potentially lose some of that investment and time; don't farm. Farming is not clear cut. You don't always walk away with great things. Sometimes other people have better things that they farmed. Complaining because all of a sudden your crop of tea isn't as great as imported tea isn't going to switch the market back towards you. Nor should it. When you went to farm, you assumed the risks of farming. To assume that everything would remain static would be foolhardy.
My normal source of income? Oh, well see... I do this thing. It's called grinding. I bet you heard about it WAAAAY back. Maybe you learned about Zhen? What? To new? Already had Hypers? Had alt FCs? Had Hypers and alt FCs? Tsk. New players. So much complaining and yet their work was already cut out for them. Maybe I'm just stubborn, but I don't feel the need to use Hypers. Why? Well, I like to take it slow. Taking it slow means I obtain my items faster, and more efficiently and in advance. I'm level 71. I have one of two rings I will use end game (which I consider 100+), as well as part of the mats for level 80. I'm even saving up Dragon Points on the side for, not rank 8 or 9, but for a Warsoul. That's right. You can get Chips there too.
You want to farm? Do it my way. Everything I own is not only made by me, but each material was earned through coins, quests, or your foolhardy definition of grinding. I know I can get it easier. I relish a challenge. This rank 8? Oh, I bet that slapped you in the face. Easy got easier, didn't it? Well, hard is still hard. You want a challenge? Try being like a normal person, who doesn't spend their whole time online farming TT, or at higher levels FC/Nirvana. You are far to concerned with getting to end game than you are enjoying the ride. The end does not justify the means if your means was 9/10ths of the way and yet you only care about 1/10th.0 -
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Alnnestasia - Dreamweaver wrote: »Things never used to be quick. You probably weren't around for that.
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If you worked your way up to earn millions, and this poor family from wherever won the lottery of a $1.00 ticket, would you be angry?
Me? I would think.. COOL. Now they can enjoy what I have.
I won't be angry because it only cost them a $1.00 and I won't be bitter because I spent my life amassing my fortune.
Is like... these small ones ingame, they get into their 60's and want the cool stuff. So many of us party them up, take them on runs and pretty much drop the mats in their laps for an entire first TT armor/wep.
We do not begrudge that they got it for free, when we had to farm hard for ours. We know what it is we are capable of, and are secure in that.
Maybe it is about game play or personality.
I am working on a Cubi Neck, and I go, spend time/money and it gonna take along time. Someone pops same from box - cool, way to go, thumbs up.
I see them kinda more as my brothers and sisters ingame, rather than people beneath/below me... As for my kos guilds, I look forward to the daily pvp challange - not as someone to hate.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
NiaJade - Harshlands wrote: »If you worked your way up to earn millions, and this poor family from wherever won the lottery of a $1.00 ticket, would you be angry?
Me? I would think.. COOL. Now they can enjoy what I have.
My point wasn't that others getting things faster was bad. My point was that someone who joined a month ago has no concept of 'long' in this game.0 -
This thread is equally useless as those threads crying about the recent updates. Nice being a hypocrite. b:bye0
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Saying ok enough won't stop the qqing. From the time I started playing this game all the forums consist of mainly is qq about one thing or the next.
By making the game so that we could level faster PWI recognised that there are a lot of players 90+. They also realised that the market was very rough and that not many players were able to have competitive gear by lvl 100. By making R8 available at a relatively cheap price it allowed a lot more players the opportunity to have competitive high level characters.
Now we wait and see what the next expansion brings in terms of PvP and PvE content for the 90+ players.0 -
Alnnestasia - Dreamweaver wrote: »My point wasn't that others getting things faster was bad. My point was that someone who joined a month ago has no concept of 'long' in this game.
What is your concept of long?
I started playing Perfect World back at beginning of 08.
My veno there started the game the day it opened and for here my NiaJade was created the second they allowed us to log in. I also played beta here (not there).
And.. started doing TW back in the first week of March 08 (other NiaJade) and ever since.
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b:angryMichael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »Funny seeing how this is one wall-of-text qq post.
QQ = complain
text = argue + try to find solution.
Seriously, if you just bring a solution instead of saying the game is dead would just be fine! Dude, the game is not dead. Your logic is sometimes really pathetic. If you wanna play a MMO expect some changes over year. Anyway I don't care about people saying I leave because: Sins are OP, Nix, APS. Wake up, they wont nerf aps! If you leave the game because of its changes, its because you did not like it enough at begining.
So my solution for you is to talk with people that has more power to change the game that forum community...0 -
ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear wrote: »i have seen people with deep pockets in full nirvana,rank8 and 9 gear die horrible deaths..nothing changed and the gear does not aid u in kicking (a double s)..or protect u.Skilled pk in normal gear and nice weapon/skills can crush any rank biotch out there.
LOL, okay, I will believe you when you kill a Rank 9 +10 barb without any help with your "normal gear".
Take a video and post it, then I will believe you and stop laughing.WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
Kataguruma - Harshlands wrote: »b:angrySeriously, if you just bring a solution instead of saying the game is dead would just be fine! Dude, the game is not dead. Your logic is sometimes really pathetic. If you wanna play a MMO expect some changes over year. Anyway I don't care about people saying I leave because: Sins are OP, Nix, APS. Wake up, they wont nerf aps! If you leave the game because of its changes, its because you did not like it enough at begining.
So my solution for you is to talk with people that has more power to change the game that forum community...
True but..Aelo - Harshlands wrote: »Saying ok enough won't stop the qqing. From the time I started playing this game all the forums consist of mainly is qq about one thing or the next
Which is why people like me are not very popular. I don't care to be involved in things I'm just going to be constantly whining and negative about.0 -
NiaJade - Harshlands wrote: »If you worked your way up to earn millions, and this poor family from wherever won the lottery of a $1.00 ticket, would you be angry?
Me? I would think.. COOL. Now they can enjoy what I have.
I won't be angry because it only cost them a $1.00 and I won't be bitter because I spent my life amassing my fortune.
Is like... these small ones ingame, they get into their 60's and want the cool stuff. So many of us party them up, take them on runs and pretty much drop the mats in their laps for an entire first TT armor/wep.
We do not begrudge that they got it for free, when we had to farm hard for ours. We know what it is we are capable of, and are secure in that.
Maybe it is about game play or personality.
I am working on a Cubi Neck, and I go, spend time/money and it gonna take along time. Someone pops same from box - cool, way to go, thumbs up.
I see them kinda more as my brothers and sisters ingame, rather than people beneath/below me... As for my kos guilds, I look forward to the daily pvp challange - not as someone to hate.
Pretty much packs? *cough* I have opened over 300 packs and got nothing I know people that got a Scroll of tome on the first pack. Sure it's gambling and I did not get pissed @ that, because you know the risks it brings. Either win or lose 97% of the chances is lose.
Some people have it easier than others as I stated before, I still wouldnt get mad at that because there is actually a chance for everyone to get the stuff sooner or later.
Now this is where it is wrong. They want the cool stuff, so what, work for it. Sure you can give them mats, YET THEY WORK FOR IT, they go into instances with you and still get killed or atleast some damage.
Making everyone else life easier is a nice thing to do, but this sale just crossed the line, and here I will explain why. Won't repeat it again.
TT99 before the tideborns came out was the best gear you could get (including rank gear which was nearly impossible to get unless you spent 2-3 years of rep farming).
PWI has been out for a lil more than 2 years, so few people had the rank gear, it was something to work for, and people getting amazed when someone with rank gear was in their squad. It was the best gear you could get.
Tideborns came out bringing a a new possible endgame gear. Nirvana TT99 (lunar too but lets say nirvana was better). Everyone was looking forward for this gear, for this you'd need still to be lucky in 3-2 and 3-3 to get the materials for TT99. It was something hard to do and most people that would squad you would want a coinage split whenever you got those.
This gear was about 550 million coins to get (including weapon) thinking that you already had the TT90 gear to decomp it.
People worked hard and when finally got this gear, with enough refines, with enough money spent (either coin or gold, same thing.) PWI decides to make all that hard work aside and make it easy for everyone to get the most powered up gear in-game for just 72$ USD.
Talk about fairness? Talk about helping noobies to get their stuff? Yeah, the fair thing to do would be not sell this **** in cash shop and let everyone work their a$$ off to get this gear. It IS NOT FAIR for those who were looking forward for this gear as their goal and for those who already got it.
For god's sake, reputation can be bought? Even that sounds wrong.
Now, what I see happening with the new expansion is the next:
- People got their overpowered gear, sure, it was cheaper than before, sure. But... for how long?
New instances, new classes, new gear (more powerfull than rank gear) will be available, then everyone will be stuck with this rank gear because it is not even tradeable. So those 600m or 72m you spent for this gear will mean nothing.
Then again a new goal will be getting that gear, people getting amazed again because of that gear, and then, PWI will decide to sell it for 5 bucks.
How is that fair for everyone? It is just a pile of T-REX ****.
And when people say "the game is dead" as we have said over 20 times on forums before. "The game is dead" does not mean "call 911 omg stopped breathing!" it simply means the gameplay has been completly scewed up, there is no longer balance, and you will sooner or later realize it.
If you're here to reroll characters over and over, thats great for you, but in the end it will end up in the same corner all the characters will end up on 100 and end with **** gear because you do not have the time to farm it.
If your goal is sit and afk, thats great too, you can acomplish that since level 1, what a goal.
If your goal is helping others to get to 100, CURSE YOU, don't help them, let them enjoy the game while they can, let them grind, let them kill, let them die, let them farm their own stuff not the easy way.
If your goal is chit chat with friends, guess wh at, you're now in endgame, now PWI is not one of those social games where you sit around a fire and talk about how the world's gonna end or why is hello kitty white?... go to "There", "IMVU" or w.e other games exist that are meant for that ^^ then you will not have to deal with other people's "QQ" and you will be happy :]
Now most people's goal is to be the best player ingame, but now, that is screwed up
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That's funny, I have several characters endgame and I see more than plenty of reasons to keep playing. When I quit for months it was because I personally got bored of farming/grinding. It happens.Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Pretty much packs? *cough* I have opened over 300 packs and got nothing I know people that got a Scroll of tome on the first pack. Sure it's gambling and I did not get pissed @ that, because you know the risks it brings. Either win or lose 97% of the chances is lose.
Some people have it easier than others as I stated before, I still wouldnt get mad at that because there is actually a chance for everyone to get the stuff sooner or later.
Now this is where it is wrong. They want the cool stuff, so what, work for it. Sure you can give them mats, YET THEY WORK FOR IT, they go into instances with you and still get killed or atleast some damage.
Making everyone else life easier is a nice thing to do, but this sale just crossed the line, and here I will explain why. Won't repeat it again.
TT99 before the tideborns came out was the best gear you could get (including rank gear which was nearly impossible to get unless you spent 2-3 years of rep farming).
PWI has been out for a lil more than 2 years, so few people had the rank gear, it was something to work for, and people getting amazed when someone with rank gear was in their squad. It was the best gear you could get.
Tideborns came out bringing a a new possible endgame gear. Nirvana TT99 (lunar too but lets say nirvana was better). Everyone was looking forward for this gear, for this you'd need still to be lucky in 3-2 and 3-3 to get the materials for TT99. It was something hard to do and most people that would squad you would want a coinage split whenever you got those.
This gear was about 550 million coins to get (including weapon) thinking that you already had the TT90 gear to decomp it.
People worked hard and when finally got this gear, with enough refines, with enough money spent (either coin or gold, same thing.) PWI decides to make all that hard work aside and make it easy for everyone to get the most powered up gear in-game for just 72$ USD.
Talk about fairness? Talk about helping noobies to get their stuff? Yeah, the fair thing to do would be not sell this **** in cash shop and let everyone work their a$$ off to get this gear. It IS NOT FAIR for those who were looking forward for this gear as their goal and for those who already got it.
For god's sake, reputation can be bought? Even that sounds wrong.
Now, what I see happening with the new expansion is the next:
- People got their overpowered gear, sure, it was cheaper than before, sure. But... for how long?
New instances, new classes, new gear (more powerfull than rank gear) will be available, then everyone will be stuck with this rank gear because it is not even tradeable. So those 600m or 72m you spent for this gear will mean nothing.
Then again a new goal will be getting that gear, people getting amazed again because of that gear, and then, PWI will decide to sell it for 5 bucks.
How is that fair for everyone? It is just a pile of T-REX ****.
And when people say "the game is dead" as we have said over 20 times on forums before. "The game is dead" does not mean "call 911 omg stopped breathing!" it simply means the gameplay has been completly scewed up, there is no longer balance, and you will sooner or later realize it.
If you're here to reroll characters over and over, thats great for you, but in the end it will end up in the same corner all the characters will end up on 100 and end with **** gear because you do not have the time to farm it.
If your goal is sit and afk, thats great too, you can acomplish that since level 1, what a goal.
If your goal is helping others to get to 100, CURSE YOU, don't help them, let them enjoy the game while they can, let them grind, let them kill, let them die, let them farm their own stuff not the easy way.
If your goal is chit chat with friends, guess wh at, you're now in endgame, now PWI is not one of those social games where you sit around a fire and talk about how the world's gonna end or why is hello kitty white?... go to "There", "IMVU" or w.e other games exist that are meant for that ^^ then you will not have to deal with other people's "QQ" and you will be happy :]
Now most people's goal is to be the best player ingame, but now, that is screwed up
However, most of your pots is just QQ about what the game should be.
Just about every person who had Rank 8 gear earlier CASH SHOPPED IT, and just about every single one did who had Rank 8 shortly after the first anni packs came out last September. Even the one and only self proclaimed Rank 8 "farmer" farmed rep badges when they didn't bore themselves senseless farming rep badges from FB59 using a super low level alt to bring the squad average down thus increase the drop rate.
It's so hilarious that you're talking about ruining accomplishments. This is a self-important goal of yours. You don't have to earn Rank 8 this fashion, whatever the **** it is. When this sale came out days ago, my wife and I had already, well before, planned on getting Rank 8 for our clerics. We were both thrilled at this, we still play a lot, every day, in her case, 2 years later, in my case, 1 and a half years later. In fact, one of our RL friends, down the street, we might be getting Rank 8 for, because he's always loved this game and spend maybe $10 on it. He's always a helpful person, likes to go to nub areas and help them, likes to help people out. You might actually meet people like this and befriend them if you cut the negative attitude. Right now you sound like a pissy old person ranting about the golden ages.
There's also a ton of people who want Rank 8/9 gear who TW/PVP. I suppose they're all gonna quit instead of taking advantage of what they paid for. Good logic.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's funny, I have several characters endgame and I see more than plenty of reasons to keep playing. When I quit for months it was because I personally got bored of farming/grinding. It happens.
However, most of your pots is just QQ about what the game should be.
Just about every person who had Rank 8 gear earlier CASH SHOPPED IT, and just about every single one did who had Rank 8 shortly after the first anni packs came out last September. Even the one and only self proclaimed Rank 8 "farmer" farmed rep badges when they didn't bore themselves senseless farming rep badges from FB59 using a super low level alt to bring the squad average down thus increase the drop rate.
It's so hilarious that you're talking about ruining accomplishments. This is a self-important goal of yours. You don't have to earn Rank 8 this fashion, whatever the **** it is. When this sale came out days ago, my wife and I had already, well before, planned on getting Rank 8 for our clerics. We were both thrilled at this, we still play a lot, every day, in her case, 2 years later, in my case, 1 and a half years later. In fact, one of our RL friends, down the street, we might be getting Rank 8 for, because he's always loved this game and spend maybe $10 on it. He's always a helpful person, likes to go to nub areas and help them, likes to help people out. You might actually meet people like this and befriend them if you cut the negative attitude. Right now you sound like a pissy old person ranting about the golden ages.
There's also a ton of people who want Rank 8/9 gear who TW/PVP. I suppose they're all gonna quit instead of taking advantage of what they paid for. Good logic.
This post...is probably the best post I've read in response to this situation. Seriously.
Bravo, good sir. b:thanks[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »That's funny, I have several characters endgame and I see more than plenty of reasons to keep playing. When I quit for months it was because I personally got bored of farming/grinding. It happens.
However, most of your pots is just QQ about what the game should be.
Just about every person who had Rank 8 gear earlier CASH SHOPPED IT, and just about every single one did who had Rank 8 shortly after the first anni packs came out last September. Even the one and only self proclaimed Rank 8 "farmer" farmed rep badges when they didn't bore themselves senseless farming rep badges from FB59 using a super low level alt to bring the squad average down thus increase the drop rate.
It's so hilarious that you're talking about ruining accomplishments. This is a self-important goal of yours. You don't have to earn Rank 8 this fashion, whatever the **** it is. When this sale came out days ago, my wife and I had already, well before, planned on getting Rank 8 for our clerics. We were both thrilled at this, we still play a lot, every day, in her case, 2 years later, in my case, 1 and a half years later. In fact, one of our RL friends, down the street, we might be getting Rank 8 for, because he's always loved this game and spend maybe $10 on it. He's always a helpful person, likes to go to nub areas and help them, likes to help people out. You might actually meet people like this and befriend them if you cut the negative attitude. Right now you sound like a pissy old person ranting about the golden ages.
There's also a ton of people who want Rank 8/9 gear who TW/PVP. I suppose they're all gonna quit instead of taking advantage of what they paid for. Good logic.
Why all your replies have to do with the attitude with other persons? I just can't get that.
This has nothing to do with my attitude, it has to do with the attitude the administration is taking.
I don't care if someone spent $10 or $10k USD in this game, it is still, in fact, messed up by administrators.
Note my reply had nothing about QQ, just keep nerdraging at me, who cares, not me lol.WTB> -12% channeling BELT or RING pm me with link or mail me ingame HT server, ty.0 -
If you notice, the attitude goes with the exaggeration of things. It isn't merely the attitude alone, but nice of you to focus exclusively on that. And way to show me, you don't care so much you keep responding. I don't care. Oops, I responded. b:chuckleYamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Why all your replies have to do with the attitude with other persons? I just can't get that.
This has nothing to do with my attitude, it has to do with the attitude the administration is taking.
I don't care if someone spent $10 or $10k USD in this game, it is still, in fact, messed up by administrators.
Note my reply had nothing about QQ, just keep nerdraging at me, who cares, not me lol.
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