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Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Pretty much packs? *cough* I have opened over 300 packs and got nothing I know people that got a Scroll of tome on the first pack. Sure it's gambling and I did not get pissed @ that, because you know the risks it brings. Either win or lose 97% of the chances is lose.
Some people have it easier than others as I stated before, I still wouldnt get mad at that because there is actually a chance for everyone to get the stuff sooner or later.
Now this is where it is wrong. They want the cool stuff, so what, work for it. Sure you can give them mats, YET THEY WORK FOR IT, they go into instances with you and still get killed or atleast some damage.
Making everyone else life easier is a nice thing to do, but this sale just crossed the line, and here I will explain why. Won't repeat it again.
TT99 before the tideborns came out was the best gear you could get (including rank gear which was nearly impossible to get unless you spent 2-3 years of rep farming).
PWI has been out for a lil more than 2 years, so few people had the rank gear, it was something to work for, and people getting amazed when someone with rank gear was in their squad. It was the best gear you could get.
Tideborns came out bringing a a new possible endgame gear. Nirvana TT99 (lunar too but lets say nirvana was better). Everyone was looking forward for this gear, for this you'd need still to be lucky in 3-2 and 3-3 to get the materials for TT99. It was something hard to do and most people that would squad you would want a coinage split whenever you got those.
This gear was about 550 million coins to get (including weapon) thinking that you already had the TT90 gear to decomp it.
People worked hard and when finally got this gear, with enough refines, with enough money spent (either coin or gold, same thing.) PWI decides to make all that hard work aside and make it easy for everyone to get the most powered up gear in-game for just 72$ USD.
Talk about fairness? Talk about helping noobies to get their stuff? Yeah, the fair thing to do would be not sell this **** in cash shop and let everyone work their a$$ off to get this gear. It IS NOT FAIR for those who were looking forward for this gear as their goal and for those who already got it.
For god's sake, reputation can be bought? Even that sounds wrong.
Now, what I see happening with the new expansion is the next:
- People got their overpowered gear, sure, it was cheaper than before, sure. But... for how long?
New instances, new classes, new gear (more powerfull than rank gear) will be available, then everyone will be stuck with this rank gear because it is not even tradeable. So those 600m or 72m you spent for this gear will mean nothing.
Then again a new goal will be getting that gear, people getting amazed again because of that gear, and then, PWI will decide to sell it for 5 bucks.
How is that fair for everyone? It is just a pile of T-REX ****.
And when people say "the game is dead" as we have said over 20 times on forums before. "The game is dead" does not mean "call 911 omg stopped breathing!" it simply means the gameplay has been completly scewed up, there is no longer balance, and you will sooner or later realize it.
If you're here to reroll characters over and over, thats great for you, but in the end it will end up in the same corner all the characters will end up on 100 and end with **** gear because you do not have the time to farm it.
If your goal is sit and afk, thats great too, you can acomplish that since level 1, what a goal.
If your goal is helping others to get to 100, CURSE YOU, don't help them, let them enjoy the game while they can, let them grind, let them kill, let them die, let them farm their own stuff not the easy way.
If your goal is chit chat with friends, guess wh at, you're now in endgame, now PWI is not one of those social games where you sit around a fire and talk about how the world's gonna end or why is hello kitty white?... go to "There", "IMVU" or w.e other games exist that are meant for that ^^ then you will not have to deal with other people's "QQ" and you will be happy :]
Now most people's goal is to be the best player ingame, but now, that is screwed up
I quoted all your text to respect the sence you give.
What you say sounds like that to me:
''Before rep sale, The game im playing is perfect. Now I'm sad because there is no balance.''
But the game was never really balanced as you said. In one of the most popular MMO P2P, when a new exp came out, there is new stuff. Old stuff start from BEST to AVERAGE GOOD. The whole meaning of this Is to give an oportunity to gamers to reach the stuff . Yes I know its sad when you worked hard to get a specific item. But, the game changes... And I hope it wont stop changing because that will be the real dead. Game is dead is an expression wierd to use when your talking of an evolution of a game. The game that stops evolving die.0 -
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Notgood - Raging Tide wrote: »b:surrender If you don't like seeing the QQ threads then ignore them ijs, btw this is sort of, no it is a QQ thread.
Your right, it has slowly devolved away from my original point. Which I guess I should have made even more direct. This game is about a journey not about a result. If others want to pay for the result then they miss out on all the fun I will have on the journey and that is their prerogative. This thread has been an interesting sociological experiment. Here ends my significant involvement in it since I have said my piece, off to play the completely living game now....0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »If you notice, the attitude goes with the exaggeration of things. It isn't merely the attitude alone, but nice of you to focus exclusively on that. And way to show me, you don't care so much you keep responding. I don't care. Oops, I responded. b:chuckle
Got any more nerdrages to post?
OMG yay found it b:cool
Nerdrage? o.O what is that?
I respond because I can and want to, I don't have to show you anything since you're nothing to me, for me you're just someone that has nothing else to do but ranting
I respond on the forum because I care of PWI, I care of the balance of the game, I care of the gameplay. But seems just few people care about this.
Have you gone in TW lately? guess not, so you know sht about whats going on. b:kiss
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Kataguruma - Harshlands wrote: »I quoted all your text to respect the sence you give.
What you say sounds like that to me:
''Before rep sale, The game im playing is perfect. Now I'm sad because there is no balance.''
But the game was never really balanced as you said. In one of the most popular MMO P2P, when a new exp came out, there is new stuff. Old stuff start from BEST to AVERAGE GOOD. The whole meaning of this Is to give an oportunity to gamers to reach the stuff . Yes I know its sad when you worked hard to get a specific item. But, the game changes... And I hope it wont stop changing because that will be the real dead. Game is dead is an expression wierd to use when your talking of an evolution of a game. The game that stops evolving die.
Lol I never said it was perfect, and no I'm not sad because there's no balance anymore, actually I'm just laughing because people keep paying for this kind of service. Even when most don't like it.
That is the only reason why I still log on the forums, I'm waiting on GW2 to be released then I'll forget of PWI as I did 6 months ago b:chuckle
Again, I never said it was balanced, however there was still some competition, but now there's nothing to work for.
Giving the oportunity of getting the stuff? Lol, at what price? 75 bucks? is that really fair? or even correct to do?
And no this is supposed to be a F2P not P2P, got it wrong there.
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Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lol I never said it was perfect, and no I'm not sad because there's no balance anymore, actually I'm just laughing because people keep paying for this kind of service. Even when most don't like it.
That is the only reason why I still log on the forums, I'm waiting on GW2 to be released then I'll forget of PWI as I did 6 months ago b:chuckle
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Cun - Lost City wrote: »/necrophilia b:chuckle
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »CSers who complain about others getting Rank 8 much cheaper have nothing to complain about.
To compliment the OP, a good portion of them have an image of exclusivity to gain the admiration and envy of other players. Others having Rank 8, they lose this. Now the admiration of them comes down more to skill and tactic than gear as no one will be impressed anymore by Rank 8.
I see no problem with this.
I somewhat feel for those who accomplish things by months and months of farming only to see something become readily available that one can buy with a day's work or less (or week if you earn **** for money) or a week's worth of farming. But again, this goes back to the notion that this has more to do with being admired and envied than feeling like one earned or accomplished something. One who truly feels this way will not give a flying **** about how others get it. One who has people to impress will be overly concerned about this. Sociology 101.
It's just about expecting more for doing more, which has apparently escaped you. Otherwise, what is the incentive to farm, to charge more? Someone who farmed countless hours is not only mad because they are no longer envied or admired, they are mad because they could have NOT FARMED AT ALL and gotten better gear. Has that ever entered your mind? That their time could have been spent doing something else if they knew this was coming?Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »It's just about having more for doing more. Otherwise, what is the incentive to farm, to charge more? Don't you understand that it is wasting time for those who farmed countless hours in Nirvana? Someone who farmed countless hours is not mad because they are no longer envied or admired, they are mad because they could have NOT FARMED AT ALL and gotten better gear. Has that ever entered your mind? That their time could have been spent doing something else?
^ this.
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »It's just about expecting more for doing more, which has apparently escaped you. Otherwise, what is the incentive to farm, to charge more? Someone who farmed countless hours is not only mad because they are no longer envied or admired, they are mad because they could have NOT FARMED AT ALL and gotten better gear. Has that ever entered your mind? That their time could have been spent doing something else if they knew this was coming?
Quoted for truth.
what's the point of farming the new instances/cashopping for them? pwi will put r9 set for 20gold next year.0 -
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Nerdrage = you.Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »OMG yay found it b:cool
Nerdrage? o.O what is that?
I respond because I can and want to, I don't have to show you anything since you're nothing to me, for me you're just someone that has nothing else to do but ranting
I respond on the forum because I care of PWI, I care of the balance of the game, I care of the gameplay. But seems just few people care about this.
Have you gone in TW lately? guess not, so you know sht about whats going on. b:kiss
Yay now nerdrage at me yes I called you a noob you got something to say? b:pleased
Boohoo I care so much about this game I declare the game dead and do nothing but whine on the forums. Wahhhhh.. b:cry
If this is the way you support things you care about then please don't have kids, for their sake. And yes you clearly care what I think, please stop pretending, your responses contradict your assertions every time you post. /inb4morenerdrage
Nothing has changed since the start. Someone could cash shop **** or farm other stuff, sell it, then buy that item without ever farming it from it's source. "Not farmed at all" has, again, been there from the start. Has that entered your mind?Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »It's just about expecting more for doing more, which has apparently escaped you. Otherwise, what is the incentive to farm, to charge more? Someone who farmed countless hours is not only mad because they are no longer envied or admired, they are mad because they could have NOT FARMED AT ALL and gotten better gear. Has that ever entered your mind? That their time could have been spent doing something else if they knew this was coming?
Basically you're proving, in a nutshell, that it's about the admiration and envy of other players. They feel other people should farm the gear THEY have in the way THEY did under THEIR rules, or else it somehow ruins THEIR accomplishment -- their personal accomplishments based on how others get it in the future, great idea. Others get this gear easier than them, or in your overly simplistic generalization, "not farmed at all". This is why I don't feel bad. Thank you for the great example. I already understood what you posted before you even responded, it entered my mind, and I declared I don't feel bad for this. Your post shows why.0 -
Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »It's just about expecting more for doing more, which has apparently escaped you. Otherwise, what is the incentive to farm, to charge more? Someone who farmed countless hours is not only mad because they are no longer envied or admired, they are mad because they could have NOT FARMED AT ALL and gotten better gear. Has that ever entered your mind? That their time could have been spent doing something else if they knew this was coming?JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Basically you're proving, in a nutshell, that it's about the admiration and envy of other players. They feel other people should farm the gear THEY have in the way THEY did under THEIR rules, or else it somehow ruins THEIR accomplishment -- their personal accomplishments based on how others get it in the future, great idea. Others get this gear easier than them, or in your overly simplistic generalization, "not farmed at all". This is why I don't feel bad. Thank you for the great example. I already understood what you posted before you even responded, it entered my mind, and I declared I don't feel bad for this. Your post shows why.
Didn't read everything in this thread but... Honestly have to agree with the second post. I farm or charge because of things I want now that's available to me at the moment. It gives me something to do, and it lets me have fun doing it. Something new comes along, then I try to get it. It's annoying for maybe a minute or two that someone can get something in an instant that I worked for for months, but then it's back to, okay, so what's the next step to try and be the best I can be again.
The time spent farming or the money spent charging was my choice to do to play the game for what it was. Even if I had known this was coming it wouldn't have stopped me from farming nirvana a million times for nirvana gear (what else are you going to, sit around and say you're not going to do anything because you know it'll come easier later? honestly, was there anything else to do to fill up this "wasted" time of farming?)
Things change. Adaptability and flexibility might be a nice skill for everyone to exercise.
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So basically what you're all saying is that we SHOULDN'T complain about ANYTHING, and allow the people in charge to go under the illusion that they're doing a good job? Hell, we complain to them now and they're inder the impression that we'd actually VOTE for their game!
...Ask me about a year ago, when Assassins weren't viewed as a complete pain in the ****, gold was cheaper, TW didn't suck, and it was worth doing instances, to vote for PWI as one of the best MMOs. Better yet, ask me two years ago, when there seemed to be fewer issues in general.
Exactly what happens when you stay quiet? There's a famous quote from a man from the holocaust era which in a nutshell says this:
They came to take the Jews. I was not a Jew, so I stayed silent.
They came to take some more people, but it was not me, so I stayed silent.
When they came to take me, I wished for someone to say something, but there was nobody left to speak out for me.
I won't say that saying SOMETHING has done ANYTHING in the past three years. Trust me, I know, I've been here a very long while. There have been QQ's about everything from Nix's to BH's to stupid things like fashions.
But this is a legit, REAL, game-changing event that could have been prevented and honestly isn't needed. To QQ about people QQing in your own brand of QQ thread has about as much logic as not saying anything at all. I want to see how well you take it/rage/quit when YOUR gear becomes obsolete. The people who have farmed Nirvana and actually WORKED for their gear have the right to complain...
And if you're going to QQ over them complaining about it, I'd have to say you have caught some brand of Yulk's stupidity.0 -
Yep, that's what we're all saying, because "all of us" (whoever that is) never complain about anything and want the monopoly on complaining about things. Oh, right, maybe it happens to be related to the excessive, doomsday **** about Rank 8 concerning this game, the events of the last several days, if you missed it, as shown by all the nerdrage signatures and doom and gloom posts over this single venture. Of course, I'm sure people are going to take this post srsly when..Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »So basically what you're all saying is that we SHOULDN'T complain about ANYTHING, and allow the people in charge to go under the illusion that they're doing a good job? Hell, we complain to them now and they're inder the impression that we'd actually VOTE for their game!
.. you demon rez Godwin's law, but it compliments the hyperbole of "shouldn't complain about anything".Exactly what happens when you stay quiet? There's a famous quote from a man from the holocaust era which in a nutshell says this:
They came to take the Jews. I was not a Jew, so I stayed silent.
They came to take some more people, but it was not me, so I stayed silent.
When they came to take me, I wished for someone to say something, but there was nobody left to speak out for me.0 -
Most people donlt really QQ,
They are just pointing out the obvious.
What PWI did to the game, was a big mistake.
From Franky's post, is a nice try, but there are so many aspects of that post that simply are a manor of giving an excuse to something they did wrong.
They should have instead, come forward and said, SORRY.
We didn't factor in the market or our prediction was completely different.
Players have been pointing out the flaws of their management for the last 10 months or so.
Ever since packs came in as something that was almost permanent, they have been deleting and censoring.
The current Wave of post is simply no more, then an overcompensation against the censorship and a cry out for help from the players, to give them the chance to do it right.
The game has been altered too much in order to change it back to how it was. But, as franky does state out, and i agree, these types of MMO's need to evolve. This however does not mean that simply introducing the content needed for these evolutions to a cash shop. These evolutions should have been done graduatly by changing the mechanics in the game, for instance, more rep per FB, higher nirvana drop rates, more points per DQ item, or more chips per X DQ points. Asian countries can live with the current system due to their culture, but on Non-asian markets, this does not work. A simply and obvious difference that they should have enticipated upon.
However, ignoring players plead for bug fixes, which are more then obvious, and impare the playfriendlyness of the game itself, is the worse thing they could have done.
They have been ignoring and passing by the players for to long, and this is what is the mistake that made the alarms go off.
Players (read ALL players) have not been 100% satisfied, but you will never satisfy all 100%, same as a chef cook, you can be the best in the world, and still there will be people that do not like your food.
Now, what should happen from this is that PWE's management compensates for their interest in money in the way it is now, to a less....Shallow and short sighted version.
Meaning, replace greed with solid marketing and sales strategies, and observe the players database.
And however PWE's firm is mainly a chinese company, if any company expands abroad, to new area's, they must also do market research. They must have done this or PWI would not have been so succesful.
They should have however factored in, that the way these different area's have different players and different gaming cultures, as franky states.
This however is NOT an excuses to simply blame that because its chinese, you can forget this factor when implementing new content and obtainability for those areas.
With their companies size, what they should have done is introduce a secondary R&D department for PWI, and let them focus on the American, European and other non-asian markets.
This would mean, yes same content updates, but slightly different obtainabilities and systems. This is no more then expected with larger multinational companies.
1 system does not work if you are a global company, never has, never will.
So in conclusion, its not QQ, its simply stating the obvious, they screwed up and ignored their players, and a "revolution" has been coming since the introduction of permanent packs. And the company ignoring any hints from the players that this is not what they wanted for the game.
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Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »Long wall of text
+12 and quoted for truth.
And Janus? There's a reason people are complaining about Rank 8. Maybe you missed all of the "The Game is Dead" signatures, or the Anti-pack signatures from a few months ago? If you want the monopoly on complaining, I suggest moving to FW.
There's nothing excessive about the complaints for R8/9. It's killing everything from instances, to TW, to PvP.0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »So basically what you're all saying is that we SHOULDN'T complain about ANYTHING, and allow the people in charge to go under the illusion that they're doing a good job? Hell, we complain to them now and they're inder the impression that we'd actually VOTE for their game!
...Ask me about a year ago, when Assassins weren't viewed as a complete pain in the ****, gold was cheaper, TW didn't suck, and it was worth doing instances, to vote for PWI as one of the best MMOs. Better yet, ask me two years ago, when there seemed to be fewer issues in general.
Exactly what happens when you stay quiet? There's a famous quote from a man from the holocaust era which in a nutshell says this:
They came to take the Jews. I was not a Jew, so I stayed silent.
They came to take some more people, but it was not me, so I stayed silent.
When they came to take me, I wished for someone to say something, but there was nobody left to speak out for me.
I won't say that saying SOMETHING has done ANYTHING in the past three years. Trust me, I know, I've been here a very long while. There have been QQ's about everything from Nix's to BH's to stupid things like fashions.
But this is a legit, REAL, game-changing event that could have been prevented and honestly isn't needed. To QQ about people QQing in your own brand of QQ thread has about as much logic as not saying anything at all. I want to see how well you take it/rage/quit when YOUR gear becomes obsolete. The people who have farmed Nirvana and actually WORKED for their gear have the right to complain...
And if you're going to QQ over them complaining about it, I'd have to say you have caught some brand of Yulk's stupidity.
Just a couple things:
-Basically everything that players have been complaining about on the forums have been deemed "legit, game-changing" etc. Perfect example is the anniversary packs that came out last year. The kind of gear that was available before packs was nothing compared to the ones people got after, kind of like how r9 gear is pretty much better than anything else you can get right now. Packs didn't kill the game, doubt this sale will be any different.
-I know several people that have quit over the reason that what they had worked for have become basically nothing. I know people who have worked just as hard, spent just as much money, and are still playing and willing to continue. Read post before yours on how I tend to play the game with my hubby.
-There aren't that many people as expected getting rank 9 (which is where it really starts making a difference imo, even r8 isn't op much) tbh with the sale. Those that are pretty much had superior gear before the sale anyway.
-There is nothing wrong with voicing your displeasure and frustration. However, there is a limit imo on how far you should go into pushing your personal opinion into how a game should be run (not saying you in particular, just trying to name some of those people that try to troll even new players about how the game is dead)
-These are my opinions. I understand not everybody can think like I do and play with whatever unfairness and unbalance issue but that's fine.
-Fashion is NOT stupid. Thank you.
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They screwed up and ignored the players, eh?Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »So in conclusion, its not QQ, its simply stating the obvious, they screwed up and ignored their players, and a "revolution" has been coming since the introduction of permanent packs. And the company ignoring any hints from the players that this is not what they wanted for the game.
Obly out
You mean all of those players huddled around the Commander in Chief in such large numbers I couldn't even spot the NPC in both Southern Archosaur and 1K Streams, within minutes of the server being up following maintenance?
You mean all that constant red spam from people buying and opening packs, or all the catshops selling packs every single time red messages were enabled?
So the people spending money in this game aren't really players, and PWI certainly should be listening to those few who come to the forums, don't spend money, and wanna ***** and moan about every change PWI makes that is in the direction people who put food on their table want.
What a lame "revolution". There is no possible way to satisfy "100%" / "ALL players". Nope. Not gonna happen. I think for a revolution to work it requires first having your facts sorted properly, then not recruiting people who QQ about every change PWI makes, going off the deep end every change that occurs proclaiming the "game is dead".
There's obvious rational things that PWI should be working on, which should be functional, cheap Rank 8 or not. Bugs for instance, need to be fixed. They also can't stop making money just to fix every bug, as well. Understandable. I've worked in QA, marketing, customer service, and so on, for the game industry. However, concerning this whining, again, I don't see rationality, I see nutcases going off the deep end and acting like they speak for everyone else when they don't.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »They screwed up and ignored the players, eh?
You mean all of those players huddled around the Commander in Chief in such large numbers I couldn't even spot the NPC in both Southern Archosaur and 1K Streams, within minutes of the server being up following maintenance?
You mean all that constant red spam from people buying and opening packs, or all the catshops selling packs every single time red messages were enabled?
So the people spending money in this game aren't really players, and PWI certainly should be listening to those few who come to the forums, don't spend money, and wanna ***** and moan about every change PWI makes that is in the direction people who put food on their table want.
What a lame "revolution". There is no possible way to satisfy "100%" / "ALL players". Nope. Not gonna happen. I think for a revolution to work it requires first having your facts sorted properly, then not recruiting people who QQ about every change PWI makes, going off the deep end every change that occurs proclaiming the "game is dead".
There's obvious rational things that PWI should be working on, which should be functional, cheap Rank 8 or not. Bugs for instance, need to be fixed. They also can't stop making money just to fix every bug, as well. Understandable. I've worked in QA, marketing, customer service, and so on, for the game industry. However, concerning this whining, again, I don't see rationality, I see nutcases going off the deep end and acting like they speak for everyone else when they don't.
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Very well, I understand your observation and agree on the red spam of opening packs and the huddles around the rep dude.
However, this does not mean that it is volentary. Players are FORCED to do so, or get left behind so much, that playing the game is marely a form of keeping yourself busy, and getting left out of everything.
For instance; Nirvana runs, who takes a Veno on nirvana runs ? Not many, due to APS.
All about that. Same goes for TT's, alot of classes have been rendered obsolete. So in order to compenstate, one must open packs, obtain tokens and try to get that lunar insignia (for instance) in order to come close to the rest.
The choice was theirs to accept it or not, and yes they have. But this also meant, that in order to stay level with the majority, you HAD to do so, or get hopelessly left out.
So, not always just because it is used, it is done volentary, sometimes, as is happening now, it is a must in order to keep up.
And for the ones that have spend 2 years or more on a single server, or are running a faction, giving up and throwing in the towel is not as easy as it is. I will not simply drop the towel, and abandon my faction.
Nor will is simply sit by, and go...ow well 2 years invested into a single character, and now...i;ma go move on...sorry, doesn;t work that way.b:victory Once you discover life is meaningless, you will see my point of view!! b:victory
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LOL and someone is saying im nerdraging? *cough* just look the last post of JanusZeal ^-^ ... ^
You got it wrong, btw, most people complaining are the people who DO spend money on the game.
God, seriously? are you seriously going into "PWI is working on fixing bugs"? do you want me to point some of them that are out there since the begining of the game?, PWI will do nothing but get the updates from PWCN.
It has been proven, several times, actually... PWI has no real devs to develop the game. Just got some people to modify the cash shop and fix or more like edit some few things here and there, but fixing stuff?
What about rubber banding?
What about pets going into walls being able to pull monsters?
What about the time Aegis Spirit "1 hr" buff lasts?
Want me to continue?
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@Sus-- You misunderstood me; the QQ about some of the fashion glitches is stupid, not the fashions themselves. I apologize if you read that wrong.JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »They screwed up and ignored the players, eh? That's what he said.
You mean all of those players huddled around the Commander in Chief in such large numbers I couldn't even spot the NPC in both Southern Archosaur and 1K Streams, within minutes of the server being up following maintenance?
Many of them, and then some.
You mean all that constant red spam from people buying and opening packs, or all the catshops selling packs every single time red messages were enabled?
Oh, not those guys, naturally....those are their paychecks.
So the people spending money in this game aren't really players, and PWI certainly should be listening to those few who come to the forums, don't spend money, and wanna ***** and moan about every change PWI makes that is in the direction people who put food on their table want.
Did we say that people who spend money in the game aren't players? No, but as far as their opinion on things, they're slightly biased because they benefit from most of these changes verses the F2P who don't as much. This isn't to say I'm entirely F2P myself; my old-as-dirt-Cleric is almost entirely geared off with Rank 7 +10. However, to rid myself of the bias, I went and rolled my psychic as F2P, so I could understand how the game worked for them. This is why I am against some of the recent additions, but not all.
What a lame "revolution". There is no possible way to satisfy "100%" / "ALL players". Nope. Not gonna happen. I think for a revolution to work it requires first having your facts sorted properly, then not recruiting people who QQ about every change PWI makes, going off the deep end every change that occurs proclaiming the "game is dead".
Some of them have been stupid, I do admit. A quick list of things that weren't: Endgame Gear in packs, TW 'fix', HH 'fix', Reviving Duke Shout orange spam, and the recent sale of rank gear.
The game isn't dead. It IS dying, however, very slowly. It's been doing that for a while, and has increased in quickness as of recently. And obviously, it's quite impossible to satisfy everybody, but this is a given in any circumstance.
There's obvious rational things that PWI should be working on, which should be functional, cheap Rank 8 or not. Bugs for instance, need to be fixed. They'll fix it when it impacts their wallets. Jungle Ruins for example...they haven't fixed the bugs in that since the dawn of time. It's been three years, where's your excuse? They also can't stop making money just to fix every bug, as well. Understandable. I agree that some bugs will take a lot more time to fix, but there are some which have been in the game since Open Beta. They don't have an exuse with all the sales that have been going on. Either they're paying their programmers too much, or they're not getting enough money from the sales. (which I seriously doubt.) I've worked in QA, marketing, customer service, and so on, for the game industry. However, concerning this whining, again, I don't see rationality, I see nutcases going off the deep end and acting like they speak for everyone else when they don't.
Welcome to the Perfect world international Forums: Home of the Nutcases since Eatwithspoons left the forums and things went into complete mayhem.
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Do you need Rosetta Stone for English lessons? How does saying "PWI should be working on fixing bugs" translate to "PWI is working on fixing bugs" or "PWI is fixing bugs"? Less nerdrage, more reading comprehension.Yamiino - Heavens Tear wrote: »LOL and someone is saying im nerdraging? *cough* just look the post behind... ^
You got it wrong, btw, most people complaining are the people who DO spend money on the game.
God, seriously? are you seriously going into "PWI is working on fixing bugs"? do you want me to point some of them that are out there since the begining of the game?, PWI will do nothing but get the updates from PWCN.
It has been proven, several times, actually... PWI has no real devs to develop the game. Just got some people to modify the cash shop and fix or more like edit some few things here and there, but fixing stuff?
What about rubber banding?
What about pets going into walls being able to pull monsters?
What about the time Aegis Spirit "1 hr" buff lasts?
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Do you need Rosetta Stone for English lessons? How does saying "PWI should be working on fixing bugs" translate to "PWI is working on fixing bugs"? Less nerdrage, more reading comprehension.
"Should" means they ought to be, but aren't. Why is beyond any of our comprehension, so the majority goes with the reasoning that the company only gives a bloody d@mn about our money.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Do you need Rosetta Stone for English lessons? How does saying "PWI should be working on fixing bugs" translate to "PWI is working on fixing bugs" or "PWI is fixing bugs"? Less nerdrage, more reading comprehension.
Wops sorry the world's gonna end O_o lmao. And yes my main language is not english so w/e you say mister.
And please, a petition, stop trying to make people mad saying they're nerdraging? it's overused and old now. Thanks use something more "fresh" 
ktybye.Obly - Dreamweaver wrote: »Very well, I understand your observation and agree on the red spam of opening packs and the huddles around the rep dude.
However, this does not mean that it is volentary. Players are FORCED to do so, or get left behind so much, that playing the game is marely a form of keeping yourself busy, and getting left out of everything.
For instance; Nirvana runs, who takes a Veno on nirvana runs ? Not many, due to APS.
All about that. Same goes for TT's, alot of classes have been rendered obsolete. So in order to compenstate, one must open packs, obtain tokens and try to get that lunar insignia (for instance) in order to come close to the rest.
The choice was theirs to accept it or not, and yes they have. But this also meant, that in order to stay level with the majority, you HAD to do so, or get hopelessly left out.
So, not always just because it is used, it is done volentary, sometimes, as is happening now, it is a must in order to keep up.
And for the ones that have spend 2 years or more on a single server, or are running a faction, giving up and throwing in the towel is not as easy as it is. I will not simply drop the towel, and abandon my faction.
Nor will is simply sit by, and go...ow well 2 years invested into a single character, and now...i;ma go move on...sorry, doesn;t work that way.
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No **** Sherlock. Congratulations, you've achieved one elementary grade above Yamiino (and ESL students) in learn2read school. Fixing bugs is a priority. People getting upset about this, I won't argue with -- I hate these bugs too. Hence the "should be fixed" and "need to be fixed". All in the same post.Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »"Should" means they ought to be, but aren't.
Because that has absolutely zero to do with the response I gave to that poster. Pointless tangent. You've now been demoted back to his grade level.Why is beyond any of our comprehension, so the majority goes with the reasoning that the company only gives a bloody d@mn about our money.0 -
Janus and Susylu are the only ones making sense here.
Lets set up an analogy, shall we?
You go out and buy a new amazing 4D television for $5000. The next day, a sale is announced for the TVs. The sale price is $2500. You cannot go back to the store and demand compensation because you decided to buy the day before they announced the sale. Nor can you demand that they not go through with the sale. It is the same with rank 8/9.
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Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »@Sus-- You misunderstood me; the QQ about some of the fashion glitches is stupid, not the fashions themselves. I apologize if you read that wrong.
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Even so it's annoying to suddenly wearing my underwear randomly b:laugh
You're right, game is dying. All things must come to an end, and it's been dying since day one.
You did hear that Perfect World failed as a pay-to-play right? Ever wondered why?
If none of the sales haven't occurred, PWI would have died a long time ago mind you (imo). It is a great game, but it was basically a slow grindfest. It took pretty much a year of many hours playing to get past 90 before packs came out.
That kind of game attracts people who are really into earning everything and don't mind getting everything in game through the means given, no matter how long it takes. That kind of game barely makes money, hence would have shut down a while ago for reasons of it being unprofitable, or unmanageable (everything takes money afterall).
It is kind of stupid to point out the obvious that instant wins and shinny things attract people, especially new people, with money or not. Other successful p2p games have other features that keep the player loyal, but imo PWI kind of lacked that on a gameplay bases.
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Why do you people fight eachother?
Some are on the side of:
I could never get that before but now i can (Happy)
Others are on the side of:
I CS anyways, so more to buy right now, and get even more Power! (Happy-ish)
Others are on the side of:
FFS I worked 2 years on gears and now get ***** cause the gear is ****. (Not so Happy)
Others are on the side of:
Ok i worked on gears, and charged some zen from time 2 time, did not completely like the new systems, but the problems where to be overcome by adapting, but now? (fairly pissed)
And then there are:
I'll just rant on because i donlt get it, but seems like fun (idiots)
So who are you mad at?
The players because the rift has become bigger? Or the company that caused the giant rift between the players?
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