RE: The recent General Summer's Sale

Genital_Wart - Harshlands wrote: »

b:surrender lvl 91 wiz in harshland before hyper stone came out. Quit because of the unbalance caused by -int Fist BM and Sin.

But now I'm considering coming back on my wiz because of Rank 8. With Rank 8/9 and possible even better future weapons, Wizards, whose skills have huge % bonus, will once more become the king of PK. b:pleased

Bm with 5.0 aps still cant beat wizzy coz they cant even touch u to do 5aps punching well yeah thats dueling only b:laugh ^^ in real pvp u rite wizzy got own by aps after u launch all BIDS BT MS SS blah lah blah and the BM still alive
b:shockedfk Bm : hihgh hp high magdef deadly aps geez.

Summer_Blush - Heavens Tear wrote: »

im F2P but i spend a little treat of 45 euros (53 gold) because its xmas, its not that much money...

and people said the exact same things as your saying to me now when packs come out, people are far over reacting on this just as they did with packs, there will be new stuff coming soon

I know that (new gear coming from CN patch) usually i am pretty calm but yesterday just . . wow it feel like my back get hit with giant hammer from back. I didn't care about pack at all before, but these rep things just woah . . you know . . hard to keep the feeling under control . . because i am also worried of those new f2p players . . b:surrender

Btw is that Noel Vermilion on your siggy ? well the look is very close but as i remember it wasn't . . but i am not sure. Do you know is that pic really noel or just same artist ?

Susylu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Gosh people I'm running on 4 hours of sleep please go easy on me b:laugh

I respect everything you've said though, and I completely understand what you're feeling and going through. I just hope some of my mentality rubs off on you so you can continue playing the game just for the sake of playing the game and having fun in your own way.

I know I'm still going to play because I'm not somebody that has to have the best of the best. I just get what looks nice and live my life because I know it's just a game. However, I do feel sorry for those people who's effort and hard work was just turned to trash due to one sale. That "noob" artist is good at what they do, making money and being the best requires work, period, end of story. No artist just "becomes famous and makes millions" overnight. They have to get out there, make a name for themselves, be recognized, and stand out of all the other "good" artists who want millions. There should be no ways around it, or "easy" paths for the average person, because nothing of worth is just going to be handed to you on a silver platter unless you are freakishly lucky, and even so, that comes with responsibility that most people just do not have.

You can be average, and still have fun, but if you want the best, you have to work to be the best. Nobody gets to be the best by just sitting on their butt all day staring at a wall.

Dear Frankie,
We know about that. This game was created to focus in oriental people. But you really need to know about what your player base wants. PWi has the most crowding market in PWE games and it is important try to preserve these status for the company and people as well. Devs cannot keeping ignoring PWi people.One day people will be sick of being ignoring and going to look for another ways to have enterteiment.I hopefully hope we can debate with devs face to face about what PWi community wants. or Make a devs Staff exlusively for PWi...

People aren't upset that other people can get things with the click of a button. It's the people that GOT the stuff already that're pissed cause what they worked for and have jsut became **** compared to rank 9, which is also ALOT cheaper and made what they HAVE worthless almost (IF they can EVEN sell it in the first place..... *bound*). AND they're pissed cause anyone else that didnt' have the top gear b4 can get it now for chump change compared to b4 (keep in mind some of these people paid thousands).

obviousalt wrote: »

People aren't upset that other people can get things with the click of a button. It's the people that GOT the stuff already that're pissed cause what they worked for and have jsut became **** compared to rank 9, which is also ALOT cheaper and made what they HAVE worthless almost (IF they can EVEN sell it in the first place..... *bound*). AND they're pissed cause anyone else that didnt' have the top gear b4 can get it now for chump change compared to b4 (keep in mind some of these people paid thousands).

Like me and my hubby?

Guess what. It's frustrating. It's heartbreaking. You either farmed for hours or dumped a whole lot of cash so it seems like a waste.

If it's so hard, then please have your say and leave (no don't I'd actually like everyone to continue playing haha). We're not the only case that I know of that have done that and are willing to still play regardless, because we recognize it was our choice to do so, and we move on and try again to be better.

If only everyone thought that way it would all be dandy. Unfortunately they don't. Or maybe we're too stubborn to give up that easily, idk.

Also I think it's both sides that are complaining. You have people who aren't even high enough level for rank 9 yet complaining.

Fangxing - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Again, that wealth does not just appear from anywhere. Those children inherited it from their parents, and possibly their parents parents. Nevertheless, work HAD to be done because achievements do not just fall into somebody's lap. Plus, a lot of those children aren't even well known, lest cared about because they either do not do anything or haven't done anything worth wild. However, like I said, even having some money is going to be done from hard work.

Their achievements of working are still there yes, but they have lost value because everybody can get it. They don't stand out anymore, people don't look up to them or admire them because some chump has the same armor. Anybody would be upset if the value of their work was lost. Sure, "we should be looking within ourselves and realizing that the valued work is still there", but an MMO is all about competition and being the best just to be the best to have a bit of self worth. That self worth is now gone. That is why people are upset, and that is why people are throwing everything up in the air and saying they are done.

The work of parents mean nothing to their children often times. Children don't do anything and just gain everything from their parents work, which is almost the same as gaining something from no work (which is what's happening with the cash shopping, you do no work, yet you use an external source, money, which also had to come somewhere to get it). If money had to come from work, as you said, I also see no point in arguing that cash shopping requires no work (but you said that already, and it's kind of a sketchy topic ~ work irl for cash in game or does not count because you're not actually doing work in game?)

The second part I won't argue anymore. That is merely a point of view issue; I can't tell you it's wrong, just that I don't agree. I'll say the self worth isn't gone at all, but others say it is so what can I do about what they feel? xP I'm not going to be pious and say I'm not jealous of these bms who got R9, but I'm also not wimp enough to say I'm quitting over it.

PWE/PWI done goofed.

Fangxing - Heavens Tear wrote: »

However, even in PWI, cash shopping requires some effort. You can't just drop $200 in gold, go to the cash shop, and buy all your mats for your armor. You have to try and sell it, then have to shop around. It's work, it's easy, but I know it has to be frustrating to be running around the entire map trying to find one more mat that nobody seems to have. With this sale, the only thing you have to do is stand there, right clicking on an icon to open packs. Then if you are trying to buy rep and junk, that's over 10k in cash down the drain, not many people can afford that with ease.

All in all, you will still lose value on something that is supposed to be hard to obtain when it is easily available to the average person. Happens with goods, jobs, etc. I'm sure people are just saying they are quitting over rage, but I understand why they are upset and would really not care if PWE lost the majority of their player-base by this move.

I'm not disagreeing that it takes no work to get rank with this sale b:laugh and that everyone is going to automatically think "cash shopper" when they see someone with rank gear now and that it loses it's appeal because many have it now. And that people who spent lots to get their now mediocre gear are raging.

I hope people overcome their rage and come back playing a rather fun game regardless (how can you not love their fashion hahahaha although I have seen better) or find another game to play and complain there when something similar happens. I'll stop here (hopefully) because I'll most likely end up repeating myself on my opinions no one wants to hear b:laugh

atleast the world chat rage has stopped..and for my reasons of not raging about this is that we can help newcomers to this game with ease...o wait ppl dont care to help b:shutup well anyways i think its a good thing to bring the cost down and make rank 8 easier to get..isnt that why everyone goes to private servers? on other hand ppl will always rage b:shocked just something to get used to. no need to go ballistic on each other over a game...if u reply to this i probly wont see it cuz im out for bed...but seriously i havent found a better game then this that i actually enjoy and play with ease...b:bye night forums

I LIKE PANCAKES AND WAFFLES.


Because pancakes and waffles make more sense then your reasonings behind this sale.

LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »

Want me to sum up what my post said?

FRANKIE POSTED A FRESH PILE OF BULL****.


Thank you and have a good day.

That may be true, but what you posted was bs as well. You don't know how long the majority of the players have to play (they do, they can check), you can't base it off the insane hours you play, and judging by what you posted you have no idea what goes on in the chinese servers.

It's fine that you're calling his post complete nonsense but at least have something to say why it's BS instead of making assumptions that probably aren't true b:bye

You have a good night too

only thing im pissed about is the high gold prices in AH i couldnt give a dam if rank is easier to get now as long as it doesnt effect my life line to get cash shop items idc but seriously this went way to far like other people have pointed out there were other ways you could have done thisb:cry guess ill keep playing tell most of everyone else leavesb:sadb:worried

Kieve - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Blaming China, Frankie? Really, that's the best PR you can come up with?
Let's try honestly for a change (oh right, you can't, you get fired for that).
PWI's stock fell and in a desperate move to rake in the cash, Management decides to have a Sale To End All Sales.
Now the absolute-best top gear is available from the shop, for less than 1% what Warsoul was projected to cost. It was stupid, short-sighted, and at this point there is no possible way to recover from it.
Sweet promises of new expansion content will not float a ship that's sunk this far. All you can do at this point is bid your meal-ticket a fond farewell and start sending out resumes.

Very well made video. b:laugh

Quick question because I haven't gotten an answer yet -

If the game is dead to you, why are you still here making it miserable with such posts for those that still enjoy the game?

Although I think the forums will get a lot less active without all threads like this, I really don't understand why players that no longer enjoy the game think they can keep ruining it for those who still want to give the game a go and distracting new players that should at least give PWI a shot. Especially if you know they don't care and don't even read this ****.

It's a great thing to have our opinions heard, and it's normal to get mad, but moderation and consideration for the rest of the community who don't like multiple threads would be appreciated (no I'm not referring to you specifically just quoting your post).

Of course, that's too much to ask for I guess. "Because they screwed us over we have every right to go rampage and do whatever we want." Go figure. b:lipcurl

tldr;

if the game's going down, let the players going down with it go down in peace. thanks.

Was it not stated that the changes in tw were brought about to help reduce the price of gold not to long ago? Where are those prices sitting at now? 1mill on dreamweaver currently due to this new sale an the previous ones leading up to it. As for it being too hard for some to obtain rank gear that is how it should be. If i was to play a game that everything in it was easy after a few hours id find another game thats more of a challenge. The issue here is that it is now possible to buy extremely powerful gear with out even having to play the game past the lvl when the cash shop becomes available. Then players just have to spend a little more money to hyper up an gain the lvls needed to wield it. If this was about making it easier to gain equipment why then were drops in fc nurfed to the point that u can only buy the weapons with the items u get in packs from the cash shop. Much easier to farm the mats in game then to pay tons of real money for a chance at gaining the weapons. Same goes for all the drop reductions carried out over the past 2 years that were done to push users to cash shop more. This has nothing to do with difficulty but everything to do with allowing people to buy their way to the top. As for the upcoming expansion I do hope the glitches and bugs that have been around since beta will be fixed before this. Two years is a very long time to allow issues to continue in any game free to play or otherwise.

will the players who spent thousand of dollars towards r8 and r9 be refunded ? heard several players talking about taking legal action against PWE for "not meeting expectations of gameplay". can they really do this?

so many other ways that rep could have been added to game. when you pick and choose what parts of the game to implement from the conception of the game, that is where you start to **** it up. other version have the rep items (forgot the name cause they are so rare)that drop in FB s while PWI i havent seen them drop past fb59. also i thought there was an npc that you can turn 3 star in for rep. but that doesnt work on PWI version either.

tbh i dont really see the game recovering from this. sad really. i wish that the players could see/interact with the team responsible for these changes rather than just a hand me down comment from Frankie. maybe it is just me but i totally fail to understand how pissing off some of your biggest long time cash shoppers is a "good" idea.

also, when the forum rages and turns so extremely negative, does it reflect how the PWE stocks go up and down?

not going to say i am completely quitting, but i will probably cut my pwi time by 95% and look for other hobbies. for sure cutting the small amount i have cash shopped by 100%.