Will "Genesis" Kill PWI Definitely, Or Has PWE Really Learned Something This Time?

TangLung - Lost City
TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
edited October 2010 in General Discussion
Frankieraye, I don't expect this to stay up for long; site admins on the news page have already killed it 3 times.

What I WOULD like to see is PWI come out and publicly EXPLAIN to me why they are so worried about what's in my post, that they keep deleting it. Or did I hit the nail too hard to contrast?

SO.... here it is (again).

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An ancient Pan'Gu prophecy had foretold the destruction of Perfect World:

(TangLung's Spark note: those were the customers whose feedback PWE hasn't given a hoot about, over the years - not prophets.... ijs.)

I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
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  • ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver
    ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    stop being so darn butthurt. if your post has merit post it somewhere PWE wont delete it. they can delete whatever they like ON THEIR OWN SITE.

    for every naysayer and doommerchant on the forum there are hundreds if not thousands of players in the game who have the ability to accept that things change over time. change does not equal death.
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  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Don't offer a comment if you haven't read the original post first, and without knowing WHY I am being so persistent.

    Butthurt? No... just very combattive when I am wronged.

    And don't tell me you don't care to read it. If you don't care, then don't comment, either.

    http://bit.ly/PWISUX

    They keep truncating my post, too... so what you are seeing in the PWI forums is NOT the post.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver
    ZeroDefects - Dreamweaver Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    i read it. nothing new there that hasn't been argued over for months.

    at the beginning of the game gold prices were much too low, okay they have swung too far the other way now but they have been settling in the mid 300s - 400 lately. Spikes in the price are due to players anticipating sales or trying to play the gold market. This is player greed as well as PWE greed/business

    can you show me a single mmo that has no glitches? we do not know how much actual resource is set aside for making fixes in PWI. But if PWE or PW Bejing is like any other business, the majority of resources will be geared towards bringing money into the business - after all fixes do not earn money. we also are not privy to any conversations between pwe and pw bejing. We have been told that bugs have been/are being discussed with devs. But if there is only one poor dev for fixes and 30 devs for new developments then only the most urgent fixes will be done. Long term ones which may be annoying but do not prevent the gamer playing are pushed to the bottom of the pile. The Gluttonix glitch is an example - I personally have not had this happen to any of the squads I have been in - so it is not a 100% guaranteed repeatable. In these cases it is hard to trace the issue.
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  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Thanks for reading it, and thank you for taking the time to share your point of view.

    The points I raised in the post are very simply the reiteration of what so many others have lamented; one need only read the comments in any post when, say, anni packs or new fashions come out. With every patch, someone QQ's about it.

    What I have done, if albeit in what seems a riling way, is compile the general consensus (not everyone's, but GENERAL) of the PWI players, and highlight all the arguments they have posed (and posted) over the past.

    Am I fed up? Am I worried? Am I going to be banned? Will I keep playing? The answers might be a little surprising. The only reason I went this far is because PWI didn't approve the post when I put it here. They then erased the post where I brought to their attention that, "Hey, what's with not publishing it? Did I strike a nerve?"

    Did I hit home? I think so. Would there be any other reason why they didn't approve? They said there were some "bad" words in there. They weren't - they were written as "s h * t t y", and so on. Yes, they are not the epitome of elegance, but we see plenty of that and worse in WC.

    As far as me personally is concerned, I don't have the QQ's. I am not worried. I CS, I always have, and I can continue to do so. I don't get worried over this, because fortunately enough I am in a financial state where it's no problem for me to CS.

    Are there n e w b s? Sure! Did hyper FF contribute to that? Of course! Have you partied with a fail barb? Pretty often, as of late! And have you been swamped with clerics wanting to join your party? I should hardly think so. And are some people spending $600 buck on Anni's, only to end up with a stash of tokens, and nothing really worthwhile? Indeed, they are - look at most any chat in game about the Anni's.

    What I listed was the general voice of discomfort throughout, that ANYONE will have read in these posts over time. People ARE sick of fashion, people ARE sick of glitches, people ARE sick of the prohibitive costs incurred in being a competitive CS'er.

    Me personally, I'll say it again: I am not bothered. That's not to say I like n e w b parties. But I couldn't care less if the 'Sin next to me got his +12 NV daggs by shelling out 5k on the game. That's his prerogative. I could do so to, but in my mind, having money makes me judicious of how I use it; spending 10k on the game is unfathomable, even if it's there and could be used.

    There is little in my posts that doesn't hold true. I think it's pretty darn representative of how most people feel. I just put my own spin on it, from the perspective of what I have experienced in the 2 years I have been playing. Do I take it seriously? No, I don't take the game seriously. But I do love to write, and be the voice of debate, as well as Devil's Advocate.

    That's partly what I endeavour to achieve each time in my business as an author, and a professional with a marketing and copywriting business. I have learned that if no one's got anything to say about your work, then you haven't reached the top yet. Meditate on that one. I fight back only if one displays the abrasive arrogance of attempting to stifle or thwart my point. I am entitled to say it, and if it's a sort of very evident "vox populi", PWI has asked for a fight in deleting it. I am open to debate, and I am the first to concede a fault if I am wrong.

    This wasn't the case here.

    Peace
    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    TLDR
    the pwi is dead thing is getting old
  • ArchSaber - Sanctuary
    ArchSaber - Sanctuary Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Yes it will kill PWI. Once cash shoppers find out that a class is better then a sin, re roll and spend about another 10 grand on this game. Also, i have to study 2 more classes to find an effective way to beat them. Took me long enough to study a psy.
    AP classes are a real butt pounding...
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    TLDR
    the pwi is dead thing is getting old


    So are the comments people make about anni packs, and glitches, and "wtf, fashion again?!", and so on, and so on... they are getting old, as well as not adding value.

    Yet, that doesn't keep people from making them, every time something "new" comes out.

    My post proves some very good points, points to ponder, and that I am fully open to debate if you have read it.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    So are the comments people make about anni packs, and glitches, and "wtf, fashion again?!", and so on, and so on... they are getting old, as well as not adding value.

    Yet, that doesn't keep people from making them, every time something "new" comes out.

    My post proves some very good points, points to ponder, and that I am fully open to debate if you have read it.

    -TL
    Did you just imply they should add less fashion? >=( Log into lc right now and come to north gate.
  • w34kd0g
    w34kd0g Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Don't offer a comment if you haven't read the original post first, and without knowing WHY I am being so persistent.

    Butthurt? No... just very combattive when I am wronged.

    And don't tell me you don't care to read it. If you don't care, then don't comment, either.

    http://bit.ly/PWISUX

    They keep truncating my post, too... so what you are seeing in the PWI forums is NOT the post.

    -TL

    HTML script virus?lolol
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Did you just imply they should add less fashion? >=( Log into lc right now and come to north gate.

    Heck no! b:shocked

    I would never dare go toe to toe with a woman who feels she has wrongly been the target of a fashion criticism coming from me. Men should never cross over into the realm of fashion, weight, and shoes with women.

    That's like a 5aps Sin going suicidal on a Psy with Demon Soulburn...

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    lol the link looked weird to me to so i didnt click it

    also i'm at north waiting to kill your fashion hatingness
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    w34kd0g wrote: »
    HTML script virus?lolol

    News to me, there are no scripts installed on my blog aside from Google Analytics and AWStats - those are just tracking scripts we marketers use.

    And there sure as heck aren't any viruses there, either.

    As for why my post truncates in PWI's forum, I don't know.

    -TL.
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • w34kd0g
    w34kd0g Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    News to me, there are no scripts installed on my blog aside from Google Analytics and AWStats - those are just tracking scripts we marketers use.

    And there sure as heck aren't any viruses there, either.

    As for why my post truncates in PWI's forum, I don't know.

    -TL.

    Cool story,bro! b:bye
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    lol the link looked weird to me to so i didnt click it

    also i'm at north waiting to kill your fashion hatingness

    It may have looked weird, naturally, if you didn't know what it was.

    It uses bit.ly, which is a URL-shortener, much like tinyurl. Instead of posting a long URL, such as would be the case with the actual URL, I put it into bit.ly, and get a short URL which redirects to the where the post is.

    It's not a virus. It's used a lot by marketers, in Facebook, Twitter, etc.

    -TL

    (AND NO! I am not taking a beating from your PWI shoes over my head. You won't find ME at the gate! Thank GOD I'm on LC server...)
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    w34kd0g wrote: »
    Cool story,bro! b:bye

    Quite. Isn't the truth awesome? Believe what you will, it's your prerogative.

    It's hosted on WordPress, and there are no .php scripts, malware, adware, trojans, viruses, pop-ups, or anything of the sort.

    Anyway, I won't sit here and argue with you. If you're convinced there's a virus, then so be it.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • Cun - Lost City
    Cun - Lost City Posts: 685 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Oh look this thread again... b:surrender
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  • w34kd0g
    w34kd0g Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Quite. Isn't the truth awesome? Believe what you will, it's your prerogative.

    It's hosted on WordPress, and there are no .php scripts, malware, adware, trojans, viruses, pop-ups, or anything of the sort.

    Anyway, I won't sit here and argue with you. If you're convinced there's a virus, then so be it.

    -TL

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  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    w34kd0g wrote: »

    For being a haemorrhoid and a troll, you're quite a gentleman with your eloquent signposting. I half expected a grunt. I am impressed.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Excuse me dear sir....

    -.- there a point to this thread, or are you two going to claw at one another all day?

    Wait, forum battle?!
    I could sell tickets at 15% markup and make 4mil in a few hours....Hmmmm...
  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    For being a haemorrhoid and a troll, you're quite a gentleman with your eloquent signposting. I half expected a grunt. I am impressed.

    -TrolL

    Because he isn't the only one...
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  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Excuse me dear sir....

    -.- there a point to this thread, or are you two going to claw at one another all day?

    Wait, forum battle?!
    I could sell tickets at 15% markup and make 4mil in a few hours....Hmmmm...

    My exquisitely fair Lady,

    There is indeed a point to the thread. A number them, in fact, which have been positively commented in feedback.

    Please, disregard the troll above who temporarily succeeded in hijacking it. He's accustomed to hiding under the bed, and not used to sunlight; the attention got him a little excited.

    There is very little the above mythological creature can do / say to substantiate his position, so I have no need to beat him over the head anymore. I should think he's crawled back under the bed.

    Respectfully,
    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My exquisitely fair Lady,

    There is indeed a point to the thread. A number them, in fact, which have been positively commented in feedback.

    Please, disregard the troll above who temporarily succeeded in hijacking it. He's accustomed to hiding under the bed, and not used to sunlight; the attention got him a little excited.

    There is very little the above mythological creature can do / say to substantiate his position, so I have no need to beat him over the head anymore. I should think he's crawled back under the bed.

    Respectfully,
    -TL

    Dude...you sound like a creepy pedophile. I'd stop that **** right now.
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  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Because he isn't the only one...

    Ok, I am going to stop replying to you people who don't understand what's going on.

    Do you know what a troll is? It's someone who makes dumb-*** comments of no value, inflammatory and riling posts which serve no purpose other than to **** people off, or generic spammy posts of no worth, and one-liners to increase their post count and / or necro threads.

    None of that in here. I raised point, very good ones, and delivered in a very articulate, thought provoking fashion. If it was over your head, if you didn't read it, if you didn't like it, or for whatever reason it wasn't your cup of tea, just say so and do be an obnoxious pre-pubescent little prat.

    Sorry, was that offensive? So is trolling.

    I can take the heat, let's have the debate. I've replied to everyone so far. But I won't waste time with you, where your post amounts to nothing more than a waste of bandwidth of PWI servers.

    Either contribute, disagree constructively, or face a nasty flogging. I didn't start any of the bad-mouthing; I only reacted to the people who did so.

    Bloody hell, the time some of you make me waste...

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Dude...you sound like a creepy pedophile. I'd stop that **** right now.

    I'd be a paedophile? OMG, this is the DUMBEST comment yet.

    So I'd be a paedophile for replying, "My exquisitely fair Lady" to someone who started their post with, "My dear Sir" ??? Do you not see the ironic sarcasm??

    Really, get a Rorschach test done, so someone can interpret what the hell you think you're seeing.

    That said, please point out where the connection is to paedophilia.

    So I'd be a paedophile for highlighting that other troll's behaviour, as well?

    Again, point out where THAT connection is.

    Wow, you guys are really something else. I just don't get some of you.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    You, sir, have hijacked a spot in the forums that could have been used for more...constructive topics. Thus, by posting in such a way that you attempt to scare players away from this game, you are a worse troll than any trolls that could "hijack" your thread.

    And that post where I called you a troll was probably the shortest post I ever posted, and it was because I didn't feel like I had to quote your blog to prove that point. Sorry if I offended your seemingly elegant tastes with a post of such mediocrity.
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  • w34kd0g
    w34kd0g Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Dude...you sound like a creepy pedophile. I'd stop that **** right now.

    lolol +1. He tried to act like smart troll but failed hard.
  • Gajuma - Dreamweaver
    Gajuma - Dreamweaver Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    And there sure as heck aren't any viruses there, either.

    So Avira popping up to tell me it has blocked malware every single time I click on the link is just a fluke, huh?

    If you're going to be whiny and butthurt, fine. But posting a link to a site with malware? Real classy. Isn't that a moddable offence...?
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Whatever.

    I mean really, wtfever.

    You people are hopeless.

    It's sad. You missed the whole point of a thread, and went out of your way to be "cool" by flaming me.

    Go eat your spinach and carrots, people. It might make you smarter, and give you better eyesight.

    I'm done with commenting back to you nitwits.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • TangLung - Lost City
    TangLung - Lost City Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    So Avira popping up to tell me it has blocked malware every single time I click on the link is just a fluke, huh?

    If you're going to be whiny and butthurt, fine. But posting a link to a site with malware? Real classy. Isn't that a moddable offence...?

    Ok, here's the direct link, then.

    http://thejoshharris.com/marketing/perfect-world-international-expansion-kill-pwe-learned-time/

    Tell me WHERE there's any malware.

    The Bit.ly redirects to that page.

    Go on, show me.

    -TL
    I came, I saw, I pwned you....QQ
  • w34kd0g
    w34kd0g Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    So Avira popping up to tell me it has blocked malware every single time I click on the link is just a fluke, huh?

    If you're going to be whiny and butthurt, fine. But posting a link to a site with malware? Real classy. Isn't that a moddable offence...?

    Avira popped up for me too. I said that the page got some malware **** and he calls me a troll b:chuckle
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