The most useless skill you have?

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  • Shandelzare - Sanctuary
    Shandelzare - Sanctuary Posts: 732 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    That one archer skill that makes baby archers.

    Yea, Stormrage Eagelion.
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  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Veno, swimming ftw? :O

    I was gonna say beffuding mist, however this one is even more useless (doesnt workt in fact...)
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  • Zenira - Lost City
    Zenira - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    What about replacing purehearted blessing for a cleric version of soul degen? O.o;
    Use all mp, soul degen, heal self :D

    Might suck if you time it bad and a boss 1shots you with his aoe. :(
  • SovereignVis - Sanctuary
    SovereignVis - Sanctuary Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    DB costs 1 spark, and ES costs a liltle tiny bit hp and is quicker to do.

    Next time you go PKing let me know. I want to see you find and kill an     assassin with "Ember Storm"
  • burnedlama
    burnedlama Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wtf?

    seriously?

    i can see ppl saying stream strike useless, and emberstorm, but it makes me wonder why some ppl are playing this game if they're saying clerics revive and barbs geddon is useless =.=

    plz ppl before saying a skill is useless, ask a lvl 100+ pro player how useful the skills are...

    a pro cleric should be able to, stack 3 ironhearts, cast revive (go dark revive its godly) then jump back to the healing chain which consists in most cases of ironheart, then wellspring, those two alone at lvl 10 should be enough to keep anyone alive in a lot of cases, blessing and stream are about the same on the scale, only good for healing barb when they need a big chunk of hp back, stream will end up taking blessings place if you go dark or holy with it. if someone is a cleric and they haven't upgraded their revive, they dont need to be a cleric because the job of the healer is HEAL/REVIVE!!!!
    the only thing i'll agree on is that clerics do need another ulti because tempest is pure garbage compared to just using dark fury/holy fury and just unleashing regular atks also that the 79 skills have a really long cooldown for their usage...
    classic combo, hit 1-2 times, sleep, debuff, puri, fury, hit with everything you've got and that takes care of just about everything. a great little cleric function is players dont come out of sleep when a mob/npc hits them, so play around with that little bit of fun^^
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    burnedlama wrote: »
    wtf?

    seriously?

    i can see ppl saying stream strike useless, and emberstorm, but it makes me wonder why some ppl are playing this game if they're saying clerics revive and barbs geddon is useless =.=

    plz ppl before saying a skill is useless, ask a lvl 100+ pro player how useful the skills are...

    I believe it is what we call sarcasm....

    Well at least for most of them b:surrender
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  • Bartack - Heavens Tear
    Bartack - Heavens Tear Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    lol'ed at all the Yulk rage

    Ah Yulk, moron among men? Or a GOD among trolls? Every time I think I've got it figured out...
  • SugarPrinces - Sanctuary
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Veno, swimming ftw? :O

    ^^this

    Even says on the skill "Has no effect" :S then WHY exactly do we have it? maybe we USED to have it but the TB stole it from us for their mermaid forms ;)
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ^^this

    Even says on the skill "Has no effect" :S then WHY exactly do we have it? maybe we USED to have it but the TB stole it from us for their mermaid forms ;)

    Or maybe you stole it? :O

    OH! And though I forgot to mention this forever ago when I posted about Blessing of the Purehearted, I'd trade it for Soul Transfusion. Infinite healing. b:cool
  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ^^this

    Even says on the skill "Has no effect" :S then WHY exactly do we have it? maybe we USED to have it but the TB stole it from us for their mermaid forms ;)

    We get it as venos because we love the N/A's :D
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  • SugarPrinces - Sanctuary
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    We get it as venos because we love the N/A's :D

    N/A's oh like the "Do you have a herc?"..."No"...Kicked from squad... herc-less veno seems to be "Not Applicable" in a squad it seems :(
  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary wrote: »
    N/A's oh like the "Do you have a herc?"..."No"...Kicked from squad... herc-less veno seems to be "Not Applicable" in a squad it seems :(

    b:sad That's mean :[
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    b:sad That's mean :[

    b:cry But true...
  • Untamedchaos - Sanctuary
    Untamedchaos - Sanctuary Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm a Cleric, and for me Blessing of the Purehearted is the most useless skill. At least I can use Thunderball to either tick a charm or get in the final blow when Cyclone and Wield Thunder are on cooldown. Wellspring has a much shorter cast time than Purehearted and heals more than well enough, Stream of Rejuvination heals a massive amount of HP and gives HP over time, and Iron Heart's stacking makes it an amazing heal. There's just no room for Blessing of the Purehearted for me.

    You know using Stream over some IHs cancels the IH healing effect? o.o

    Which is why while using IH, if you need a nice big extra heal you use Blessing.
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  • $Flash$ - Heavens Tear
    $Flash$ - Heavens Tear Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    Sometimes I wish that genie floating around my dead body could be taught to revive me T_T

    IKR full of win b:thanks
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If barbs are supposed to be tanks and hold aggro... give us a damn skill that fits the jobb:surrender

    Roar = :( I should be able to use it upfront and hold aggro, not have to save it for after BM uses HF and the archer pops up BoA. channels too slowly and cool down is too long to be of any great use

    If I "had" to trade skills though, id get a decent aoe skill to replace swell with. b:cry

    and for that matter, I have no clue why Firestorm costs a spark - its damage isnt that great at all and its only in frontal lineb:angry
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  • Quinnie - Heavens Tear
    Quinnie - Heavens Tear Posts: 314 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Stormrage Eagleon Level 10
    Range Ranged Attack
    Mana 387.0
    Channel 1.5 seconds
    Cast 0.8 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Ranged Weapons

    Requisite Cultivation Transcendant
    A magical bird of prey dashes at your enemy, inflicting
    Metal damage equal to base physical damage. Lasts 30 seconds,
    during which the enemy suffers 11151.2 Metal damage
    and is slowed by 30%.

    Requires 1 arrow, bolt or unit of shot.
    Requires two Sparks



    the dmg and effects aint so bad but the fact it cost 2 sparks and its not aoe makes it worthless (the costs are high also 3012k spirit/4060k coins to get it to lvl 10, add 2m spirit and 2m coins on top to get it sage or demon excluding the price for the book)



    SAGE

    Range Ranged Attack
    Mana 550.0
    Channel 1.5 seconds
    Cast 0.8 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Ranged Weapons

    Requisite Cultivation Master of Harmony
    A magical bird of prey dashes at your enemy, inflicting Metal damage equal
    to base physical damage. Lasts 30 seconds, during which the enemy suffers
    12000.0 Metal damage, is slowed by 30%, and has a physical and
    magic defense reduction.

    Requires 1 arrow, bolt or unit of shot.
    Requires two Sparks

    Sage version reduces target's physical and magic defense by 20%.



    DEMON

    Range Ranged Attack
    Mana 550.0
    Channel 1.5 seconds
    Cast 0.8 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Ranged Weapons

    Requisite Cultivation Master of Discord
    A magical bird of prey dashes at your enemy, inflicting Metal damage
    equal to base physical damage. Lasts 30 seconds, during which the enemy
    suffers 12000.0 Metal damage and is slowed by 30%.

    Requires 1 arrow, bolt or unit of shot.
    Requires two Sparks

    Demon version only lasts 15 seconds, but slows the enemy by 50%.
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  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Quinnie - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Demon version only lasts 15 seconds, but slows the enemy by 50%.

    thats kinda what you want though isnt it? a shorter duration on a DoT skill translates into higher damage per "tick" - thus it becomes more effective to use no?

    curiosity about the sage version though... does the debuff get applied before the damage - or after? EG: if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob without debuffs... the bleed damage is about 450. However, if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob after I use devour... the bleed damage is increased to about 550, even after the debuff wears off
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    thats kinda what you want though isnt it? a shorter duration on a DoT skill translates into higher damage per "tick" - thus it becomes more effective to use no?

    curiosity about the sage version though... does the debuff get applied before the damage - or after? EG: if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob without debuffs... the bleed damage is about 450. However, if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob after I use devour... the bleed damage is increased to about 550, even after the debuff wears off

    The sage version has an error in the description and actually lowers phys/mag attack, not defense.

    Demon version doing 12000 damage over 15s sounds nice but it translates to 2400 a tick every 3 seconds. In pvp that is 600 a tick and after resistance it becomes 300 a tick. Pretty sweet right?

    A basic skill like Take Aim which adds 400% weapon attack typically adds more total damage. Stormrage is not only not worth the sparks, its not even worth the channeling even if it was 0 spark.
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  • SugarPrinces - Sanctuary
    SugarPrinces - Sanctuary Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Oh another useless skill(s)... anything melee-only when you're fighting ranged mobs that run.. cannot count the number of times while leveling my sin that i've gotten "Invalid skill" just as i run up to the mob and press the button and get to see him turn, run and shoot at me, so i run up again (sometimes automatically as the skill hasnt triggered yet), press the button, and the whole process repeats.. actually had, what was it skeleton artisians? pull me from their little spot by sp all the way to krixxix with this "roose", the irony of it all is the button i was hitting was for my stun to PREVENT him from running away in the first place.. add an "increased speed" modifier to that mob and ur pretty much assured to end up running through even more mobs unless you hit fly and break off the attack
  • Quinnie - Heavens Tear
    Quinnie - Heavens Tear Posts: 314 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    thats kinda what you want though isnt it? a shorter duration on a DoT skill translates into higher damage per "tick" - thus it becomes more effective to use no?

    curiosity about the sage version though... does the debuff get applied before the damage - or after? EG: if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob without debuffs... the bleed damage is about 450. However, if I use sunder lvl 6 on a mob after I use devour... the bleed damage is increased to about 550, even after the debuff wears off

    both the demon and sage is nice

    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The sage version has an error in the description and actually lowers phys/mag attack, not defense.

    Demon version doing 12000 damage over 15s sounds nice but it translates to 2400 a tick every 3 seconds. In pvp that is 600 a tick and after resistance it becomes 300 a tick. Pretty sweet right?

    A basic skill like Take Aim which adds 400% weapon attack typically adds more total damage. Stormrage is not only not worth the sparks, its not even worth the channeling even if it was 0 spark.

    what i heard quite some time ago from a other sage archer that got the sage version that it does reduces the defences he used it always on tt bosses but i cant confirm it atm
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  • Gaara_Cleric - Lost City
    Gaara_Cleric - Lost City Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I am a cleric and as to some of the clerics that say Pure Hearted is terrible i was healing with that on bh69 and sage version i heal about 2-3k a hit. what i think is a useless skill is wellspring it freaking sucks not much healing in there at all.

    As to replace it i would put a Aoe purify Yes RedRose i do agree WHERES OUR AOE PURIFY Psychics are not suppose to be a healing class yet there heal is awesome and IT PURIFYS ON SAGE b:cryb:cryb:cry
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  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Cleric stun......like everyone i use it on breaks out of it. I dont use it any more in situations where i usually would i just kite now.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Gaara_Cleric - Lost City wrote: »
    As to replace it i would put a Aoe purify Yes RedRose i do agree WHERES OUR AOE PURIFY Psychics are not suppose to be a healing class yet there heal is awesome and IT PURIFYS ON SAGE

    na na nana na we have aoe purifyb:mischievous

    who said that we are not supposed to be a healing class?
    maybe the argument about wings/essential sutra stands since we are fish but nothing indicates that we should not be a healing class.
    and btw, there is a 30sec cooldown, we cannot heal (constantly) with that...
    if you are afraid that some other class will steal your jobs look at wizziesb:chuckle


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    blessing of the pure-hearted? really?
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • SilentGodai - Lost City
    SilentGodai - Lost City Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Anyone found any useless skill for assassin. I cant think of anything they all seem awesome for what they do
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    SilentGodai - Lost City wrote: »
    Anyone found any useless skill for assassin. I cant think of anything they all seem awesome for what they do

    i think that someone suggested twin strike or something like that.
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • SilentGodai - Lost City
    SilentGodai - Lost City Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited August 2010
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    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i think that someone suggested twin strike or something like that.

    its useful in sage gives chi and withouth sage it cast time and channeling its 0.1 and 0.2 so its a quick add in to last minute dmg.

    I think all skillz in sin are awesome! Although i do wish we get a massive and powerful aoe like everyone else. Or a really fancy move that looks very awesome but does nothing at all xD
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Any skill that isn't amplify and purge, while in foxform.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Sin Useless Skill: Stealth b:avoid

    Veno Swim is the most Epic Useless skill though out of all classes.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    Sin Useless Skill: Stealth b:avoid

    Veno Swim is the most Epic Useless skill though out of all classes.


    oh my, not another yulkb:chuckle
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks

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