The most useless skill you have?

truekossy

Zaelmith - Sanctuary wrote: »

My head started to hurt -_-

First of all no skill's useless if u know when and how to use it.
*cough* ok except veno's swimming skill ._.

Stormrage Eaglon
Vicious Arrow
Serrated Arrow
Frost scarab (non-demon)
Tiger maw
Draw blood
Stream Strike
Purehearted blessing
Stomp of the beast king
Garrotte
Untamed Wrath
Frost Scarab
Twin Strike


Would all like to have a word with you. Just sayin.

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear

truekossy wrote: »

Stormrage Eaglon
Vicious Arrow
Serrated Arrow
Frost scarab (non-demon)
Tiger maw
Draw blood
Stream Strike
Purehearted blessing
Stomp of the beast king
Garrotte
Untamed Wrath
Frost Scarab
Twin Strike


Would all like to have a word with you. Just sayin.

Both cast relatively quick and sage maw is a great source of chi. These aren't "omgwtfnukes!" but they are not useless.

truekossy

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Both cast relatively quick and sage maw is a great source of chi. These aren't "omgwtfnukes!" but they are not useless.

Certainly can grant you Sage Maw and the chi gain from it (though, by extension I'd have to include Demon Frost).

Draw blood, however... I honestly don't find myself using aside from when I'm bored.

Lenore - Harshlands

truekossy wrote: »

Stormrage Eaglon
Vicious Arrow
Serrated Arrow
Frost scarab (non-demon)
Tiger maw
Draw blood
Stream Strike
Purehearted blessing
Stomp of the beast king
Garrotte
Untamed Wrath
Frost Scarab
Twin Strike


Would all like to have a word with you. Just sayin.

The two skills I highlighted may not be the best skills in the world, but they have their uses.

Serrated arrow does a moderate amount of damage to squishies, but as a skill, charges chi faster. It is useful in TW when you don't need a huge nuke but building chi would be nice. I have mine maxed. I used to use it on clerics to trick them into purifying because they often think a nix is on them xD. That doesn't work as well anymore because no one is afraid of nixes and demon clerics don't even waste chi if they purify.

Vicious arrow is used for about the same thing, but because the damage is even worse, I tend to only use it as a chi-charger in PvE. Mine's at level 1 for minimum mana consumption, but adds a bit of chi when used. Archers (demon archers) charge chi REALLY slowly with just auto-attack, so sometimes these skills are useful for chi-building.

Both these skills are meh skills, but are not completely useless like Stormrage Eagleon is.

Indeed I use these skills more often that Deadly Shot, because I use Take Aim instead xD

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

I just thought of somethign for wizzys

Our shields, casted on someone else b:dirty
Watershield for cleric (mp regen), stone shield to tank (or fireshield/watershield, for bosses like wurlurd. Can't think of any other uber hitting mag bosses).
In TW, stone shield for everyone.

This would make wizzys the nr3 most wanted class in instance runs lol (tank, cleric, wizzy shield).

I'd give up undine strike or whisper for it

Zaelmith - Sanctuary

truekossy wrote: »

Stormrage Eaglon
Vicious Arrow
Serrated Arrow
Frost scarab (non-demon)
Tiger maw
Draw blood
Stream Strike
Purehearted blessing
Stomp of the beast king
Garrotte
Untamed Wrath
Frost Scarab
Twin Strike


Would all like to have a word with you. Just sayin.

lol there already are people who take skills from your list and say their not useless, i'm sure at the end of the day all of them can be proven to have some use even if very very rare

SovereignVis - Sanctuary

Really? Like really? Mobs and bosses have mana? No, they don't. It maybe a good skill in PvP but mobs DON'T have mana. (And also *cough* Elemental Invocation *cough*)

Some mobs and bosses have a mana drain skill. The skill could drain HP and turn it into mana. b:chuckle

I can solo heal in a lot of instances with that slow heal which means it's good as it is. Also there is a thing called Essential Sutra.

Sutra only works for like 2 or 3 heals. Then you have to build up 2 sparks before you can do it again, so that's still going to be very slow healing most of the time.

One last thing..No, Emberstorm is not wizards' most useless skill (it's actualy useful in certain cases even if they are rare). Manifest Virtue.

It is useless, It is the least used wizard skill of them all. I might just have to make a poll just to see how many other wizards don't use it. If there is not one already.

Neferhotep - Sanctuary

I think for me is the most useless skill is blessing of the pureheart - i never use it. And i really think even for a cleric are 4 heal skills ( bb, IH, WS and the other group heal) enough imo.
Should be replaced by some skill like natures grace :P

Redmenace - Heavens Tear

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Barb: Armageddon (i don't even have it though, level 55)- Reason: cutting your HP in half doesn't cut it for the damage it dishes out. Using it against bosses is dumb. IMHO I can AOE fine without Armageddon and I dish out nice damage with other skills, I rather save 2 sparks for sunder or invoke or firestorm.

For the benefit of those in this thread who *haven't* figured this out yet - you're an idiot.




RedMenace

SovereignVis - Sanctuary

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's a few pages late but, I'll admit I'd love a second Ultimate. Tempest is cool but I like the choice Wizards have. (The main reason I made mine was because I wanted the ultimates.)

If cleric's had a second ultimate skill like wizard's "Black Ice Dragon". It would have to be some kind of lightning dragon skill. b:chuckle
It would also mostly coming flying out from where the user is and right to the target, cause ice dragon skill flies up into the air and down on the target. The fire dragon skill blademasters have spins around the user doing damage to targets around them. So a lightning dragon would have to fly in a different way. b:question

Michael_Dark - Lost City

BeefJerk - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not to mention that one of them knocks back the mobs, and the other (demon) can slow the attacker, giving more elbow room for kiting.

Yes, it's very useful in delta when an archer has stolen enough aggro to possibly kill them or knock them out of the instance. I didn't mention that because, remember, we're speaking about Yulk here. He wouldn't have the faintest idea what that actually means.

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Both cast relatively quick and sage maw is a great source of chi. These aren't "omgwtfnukes!" but they are not useless.

For a Demon (or any cultivation in my opinion), they're worthless. Sure you can use them to build a proper stunlock with axes, but they're not needed, you can also use drake's ray, ocean's edge or fan of flames to do the same.

Quilue - Sanctuary

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

If cleric's had a second ultimate skill like wizard's "Black Ice Dragon". It would have to be some kind of lightning dragon skill. b:chuckle
It would also mostly coming flying out from where the user is and right to the target, cause ice dragon skill flies up into the air and down on the target. The fire dragon skill blademasters have spins around the user doing damage to targets around them. So a lightning dragon would have to fly in a different way. b:question

eagleon! give them EAGLEON LOL

Eoria - Harshlands

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

If cleric's had a second ultimate skill like wizard's "Black Ice Dragon". It would have to be some kind of lightning dragon skill. b:chuckle
It would also mostly coming flying out from where the user is and right to the target, cause ice dragon skill flies up into the air and down on the target. The fire dragon skill blademasters have spins around the user doing damage to targets around them. So a lightning dragon would have to fly in a different way. b:question

If clerics did get another ulti, I'd like to see it be able to stun since we seem to be the only class without a stun skill. >.>

Also, it'd be a bird, not a dragon.

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Stormrage sucks so hardcore. I only ever used Eagleon where I was in a position that I had to spam skills to gimp my DPS good and proper and even then I cried whenever I used it because it's such a horrible waste of chi.

Somebody earlier on mentions Serrated and Vicious Arrow(s) and to an extent I'd agree, but as far as chi goes if you need to get chi fast then you might as well use them. Yeah, the DoTs kind of suck regardless of where you use them and will not kill anything on their own, but unlike the metal DoT that is Stormrage Eagleon they don't suck your sparks out of you for really stupid damage, making them moderately not-as-sucky.

On my veno...

Frost Scarab. Again, what a nasty waste of chi that is.

And on my cleric, Blessing of the Purehearted takes the cake.
It's also the reason I cried when an 8x cleric tells me she maxed this skill in place of Ironheart because she thought it was better. I mean really, I wept. The barb in the BH69 squad we were in wept even harder.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Stormrage sucks so hardcore. I only ever used Eagleon where I was in a position that I had to spam skills to gimp my DPS good and proper and even then I cried whenever I used it because it's such a horrible waste of chi.

lol, I used to do that on my archer. Take off rings, take off tome, spam Stormrage every time you you have enough chi built up. It's horribly aggravating to use for DPS reduction, though it does look pretty. Back in the day, everyone knew why you were using it, for just that reason. Most users now... one in particular comes to mind, hey cause it's a skill you just.... use. b:avoid

Zaelmith - Sanctuary

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

Some mobs and bosses have a mana drain skill. The skill could drain HP and turn it into mana. b:chuckle

Mana drain yes, but they don't have a mana pool. The hp to mp skill yeah that sounds alright.

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sutra only works for like 2 or 3 heals. Then you have to build up 2 sparks before you can do it again, so that's still going to be very slow healing most of the time.

Well yeah but sutra heal is usually used just for emergencies, like i said i do pretty well with the slow version.

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

It is useless, It is the least used wizard skill of them all. I might just have to make a poll just to see how many other wizards don't use it. If there is not one already.

It's not useless lol, I do agree that it may be the least used wizard skill, but that doesn't make it useless. Useless means that it has no uses whatsoever. In this case, that's not true. Also polls don't prove if something is right or wrong, they just say what the opinion of the majority of people is.

Desire - Dreamweaver

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And on my cleric, Blessing of the Purehearted takes the cake.
It's also the reason I cried when an 8x cleric tells me she maxed this skill in place of Ironheart because she thought it was better. I mean really, I wept..

LOL >.> what the ....
I've meet clerics who learned the skill at lvl 10 and spaming in in BHs more then IH, of course no need to say that things didint go pretty well.

And yeah back to the topic, most usless skill - Blessing of the Pureheart. I dont even know why some people keep trying to sell that sage/demon book for 1mil+ >.>

Airyll - Dreamweaver

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

lol, I used to do that on my archer. Take off rings, take off tome, spam Stormrage every time you you have enough chi built up. It's horribly aggravating to use for DPS reduction, though it does look pretty. Back in the day, everyone knew why you were using it, for just that reason. Most users now... one in particular comes to mind, hey cause it's a skill you just.... use. b:avoid

Yeah. The irony of it is I've not really been properly doing anything in PWI for a while, being so unhappy with the game as I am. So I'm still stuck at 94 with my FC bow, yada yada yada... I probably wouldn't have to spam Stormrage ever again in today's age. b:surrender

But it's too true. Back then, if you were spamming Stormrage Eagleon everybody could tell you were gimping. These days I see archers spamming skills not because they're gimping but.... well let's list excuses shall we?

"Because I can."

"Because it does more damage."

"Because I think they look cool. "

Among other things. ._.

truekossy

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yeah. The irony of it is I've not really been properly doing anything in PWI for a while, being so unhappy with the game as I am. So I'm still stuck at 94 with my FC bow, yada yada yada... I probably wouldn't have to spam Stormrage ever again in today's age. b:surrender

But it's too true. Back then, if you were spamming Stormrage Eagleon everybody could tell you were gimping. These days I see archers spamming skills not because they're gimping but.... well let's list excuses shall we?

"Because I can."

"Because it does more damage."

"Because I think they look cool. "

Among other things. ._.

And what's sad is that nobody seems to understand how aggro from DPS works nowadays.


A few days ago, I was running a 1-2 or 1-3 on a mid-level (barely 8X) archer. Our tank was a 101 sage Barb. On the first boss I pulled aggro easily but I can survive it so I wasn't too worried and barb was trying to tank in human for whatever reason. I chalked it up to assuming that I was some sort of noob due to level (and being too stupid to notice my gear) so I shrugged and moved on. At drum, the barb got the idea and stayed in tiger. Aggro still slipped two or so times but, again, I figured the Barb was just being lazy on reams (which was true). Then at Banisher, barb says he's putting up an AFK macro since he has to brb real quick and told me to not spam skills like before so he could keep aggro.... when before the only skills I had been using were sparks and using sharp at the start of the fight.

I then had to explain to him and the rest of the squad (which included some 9X archer with horrible gear) that skill spam would decrease my DPS and thus keep me from getting aggro as easily. Of course, none of them believed a word I said, so I simply decided to say **** it and sit down near the entrance to SB's room. Turns out I made the right choice since about 60 seconds after AoE started, I got to enjoy watching everyone else in that squad eat dirt.

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

There are times when an archer faces melee mobs, instead of dealing 50% damage reduction from close range mobs, they have two melee attacks

You also think Stormrage Ealgon is a good skill. That itself speaks volumes about how much you actually know. Which is nothing.

Idiot.

*facepalm* your level 102 and you don't realize how dumb you sound? Have you forgotten that lightning arrows deal full metal damage even at upclose? And I loled at when people calling Stormrage eaglon as a fail skill XD. Like when they say stomp of the beast king/tiger maw/twin strike is useless. Just lol. On top of that, level 1 skills are useless when you neglect it, which is true. I have found this funny, tiger maw is better than winged pledged, I guess the archer melee skills are part of the skill tree for leeroy jenkins like you morons. Do you know what kiting is scrub?

Dude, have you played archer? I guess not, either that or your just a plain idiotic fool to think that lightning strike, thundershock and thunderous blast does 50% damage up close. Just LOL. And your on a PVP server... LOL

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

*facepalm* your level 102 and you don't realize how dumb you sound? Have you forgotten that lightning arrows deal full metal damage even at upclose? And I loled at when people calling Stormrage eaglon as a fail skill XD. Like when they say stomp of the beast king/tiger maw/twin strike is useless. Just lol. On top of that, level 1 skills are useless when you neglect it, which is true. I have found this funny, tiger maw is better than winged pledged, I guess the part of the skill tree for leeroy jenkins like you morons. Do you know what kiting is scrub?

Dude, have you played archer? I guess not, either that or your just a plain idiotic fool to think that lightning strike, thundershock and thunderous blast does 50% damage up close. Just LOL. And your on a PVP server... LOL

Yes, sit there and spam metal attacks over and over. You're an idiot. My alt archer that I abandoned last November is higher level than any of your characters. I can still play an archer better than you.

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Yes, sit there and spam metal attacks over and over. You're an idiot. My alt archer that I abandoned last November is higher level than any of your characters. I can still play an archer better than you.

yeah right, what's next? fist archer b:laugh HAHAHAHAHA

Fail, just fail. have fun getting mauled by melee mobs and caster mobs with your squishy. and your archer is higher leveled using level as an excuse... just epic fail

At least I can kite and kill stuff before they reach me instead of meleeing as a ranged class. Even if I am used to melee. At least I have common sense

What about clerics? You'd just plume shot in melee range? ROFL

Death - Harshlands

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

mindless rant

Dude, you're the laughing stock of PWI.

You're like the village idiot.

Go away now. b:bye

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Death - Harshlands wrote: »

Dude, you're the laughing stock of PWI.

You're like the village idiot.

Go away now. b:bye

says the fool on the fail server, I'm on a PVP server too. I'd bet I'd roll you with just mighty swing and flesh ream you to death on my barb on that server o.0 and more like you guys are a laughing stock in PWI QQing on the forums 24/7. Go away now.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

says the fool on the fail server, I'm on a PVP server too o.0 and more like you guys are a laughing stock in PWI QQing on the forums 24/7. Go away now

It must hurt to be as stupid as you. lol

I can't fathom it. It gives me headaches just imagining how your brain processes thought.

You could be the missing link.

b:bye

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

I play melee archer and its nice

b:bye

ok Mr.Non-factor I'm off the forums and going on ingame and saying hello to my friends that are actually playing the game, have fun getting ownt b:bye

truekossy

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

says the fool on the fail server, I'm on a PVP server too o.0 and more like you guys are a laughing stock in PWI QQing on the forums 24/7. Go away now

Aren't you that idiot that was convinced winged shell wasn't useful and that an archer couldn't tank 29 when they were in their 40s?

Aren't you also that moron who was saying even with buffs you can't handle the first 3 mobs in 29's hallway and your stats were so awful that even a cleric in their mid-20s had more p.def, m.def, HP, and attack power than you?





Yes.... yes you are. Oh and by the way, Yulk, your village is calling. They said they want their idiot back.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

yeah right, what's next? fist archer b:laugh HAHAHAHAHA

Fail, just fail. have fun getting mauled by melee mobs and caster mobs with your squishy. and your archer is higher leveled using level as an excuse... just epic fail

At least I can kite and kill stuff before they reach me instead of meleeing as a ranged class. Even if I am used to melee. At least I have common sense

What about clerics? You'd just plume shot in melee range? ROFL

Were you looking for this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADQLLFsjoNY

Quilue - Sanctuary

I want to see this boy in Moonshade Desert. Just...have him be stuck there or something. He'll think all the mobs are players and call them out and be ganked or something.

KayLinda - Sanctuary

Essential Sutra - provides only 15 seconds of 62% increase in flying speed. Has a 90 second cool down. It's a level 79 Psychic skill that cost over 1 million coins.