The most useless skill you have?

SovereignVis - Sanctuary · August 2010

My main character is a wizard. I only use my alts for inventory space, other then that they are useless to me. Many of you know wizards use mostly fire, water, and earth attacks. If you didn't know, then where have you been? b:lipcurl
Anyways there is one skill I never use at all, "Ember Storm". It's totally useless for me. Why would wizards have a skill like this? The only time I ever use it is to kill animals just for fun. Hens, rams, colts and sometimes pups. Beside that whats the point of having this skill.

If I could I would replace it with a skill I can use, maybe like a "Mana Drain" skill so I can take mana from mobs or bosses and keep firing, or maybe wizards should have a res skill. It would be a lot slower than a cleric's res and might cost a spark or 2 or 3 or something, but it would be a lot more useful than "Ember Storm." There have been lots of times when the whole squad has gotten killed, all but me. Only reason I didn't die is cause after the boss kills everyone else and I see it coming for me next, I teleport out of there fast. b:shocked Then when I go back in I could res the cleric so then they wouldn't have to go back to town and lose exp. Or if someone dies and the cleric is busy healing the barb I could res them and make it easier for everyone. I have a lot of other ideas for skills wizards could have that would be more useful than "Ember Storm" but I will tell you some other time. Also I think wizard's heal skill should also repair gear. b:victory
. . . Why not? Cleric's heal is fast and effective, Psychic's Heal is fast and it's an AoE heal skill and they have a skill that increases the healing effects of abilities, skills, potions and reduces the cooldown time of charms. wizard's heal is just slow.

Now I want to hear, what class are you? and what is your most useless skill? And what kind of skill do you think it should be replaced by?

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Veno, swimming ftw? :O

Katzyn - Sanctuary · August 2010

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Veno, swimming ftw? :O

Damn, you beat me, hahaha.

For my cleric...Hmm...I'ma say Thunderball.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver · August 2010

I'm a Cleric, and for me Blessing of the Purehearted is the most useless skill. At least I can use Thunderball to either tick a charm or get in the final blow when Cyclone and Wield Thunder are on cooldown. Wellspring has a much shorter cast time than Purehearted and heals more than well enough, Stream of Rejuvination heals a massive amount of HP and gives HP over time, and Iron Heart's stacking makes it an amazing heal. There's just no room for Blessing of the Purehearted for me.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · August 2010

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

wizards should have a res skill. It would be a lot slower than a cleric's res and might cost a spark or 2 or 3 or something, but it would be a lot more useful than "Ember Storm."

yeah totally agree wizzys should be able to get a 'cleric class specific skill', in return we should be granted one like Black Ice Dragon Strike

what class are you? and what is your most useless skill? And what kind of skill do you think it should be replaced by?

useless skill; Blessing of the Purehearted
replaced with; Black Ice Dragon Strike

Xarathox - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Erm, my lvl 79 mass "stun" skill (Untamed Wrath) is almost completely useless. It "can" disrupt channeling on mage classes, but it's so slow casting that you actually need to cast it several seconds before a mage even thinks about firing at you. Also, the stun only lasts 1 second, compared to BM's 6 seconds stun.

Other than knocking clerics out of BB in TW, it has no use whatsoever. And since it's an upright only skill, when you go out of tiger mode when cata pulling (which you shouldn't. ever.) then you've just killed yourself.

P.S. It's also supposed to be an aggro skill. That's one hell of a lie. It aggro's nothing if in a party.

Edit: Replace it with Roar of the Pride (or w/e that skill's called).

fulgida · August 2010

Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »

P.S. It's also supposed to be an aggro skill. That's one hell of a lie. It aggro's nothing if in a party.

I think your aggro got assigned to sage dragon breath, somehow?

That was probably an "off by one" error, at some point in the distant history when they were making tables for how things work and stuff.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide · August 2010

Storm Eagle thing. The skill fails so bad I can't even be bothered to learn it's proper name.

Xarathox - Dreamweaver · August 2010

fulgida wrote: »

I think your aggro got assigned to sage dragon breath, somehow?

That was probably an "off by one" error, at some point in the distant history when they were making tables for how things work and stuff.

Who knows.

I just want my damn money back.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide · August 2010

Res on my cleric, most stupid skill ever. Iron heart is pretty stupid too come to think of it.

On my barb I think the only skill I dislike is trueform, I mean reduce attack? No thanks.

MANray_ - Sanctuary · August 2010

Oh, i think we've played this game before...

I'll take Swimming Mastery out for Deaden Nerves, Beffudling mist for Wizzie's Essential Sutra, Fox Wallop for BIDS and Frost Scarab for Stone Barrier, it should go nicely with Foxform. b:sin

Think i may also need a stun...

Zanryu - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

yeah totally agree wizzys should be able to get a 'cleric class specific skill', in return we should be granted one like Black Ice Dragon Strike

It's called Tempest. b:surrender

(Though I would love to get a crit add on it for the Sage or Demon version, preferably Demon b:sin)

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Yea, for wiz I'd say emberstorm.

I'd like to replace it with some sort of buf for wizzys to cast on othes(ya know, something else than frostblade, of which 3/4PWI doesn't even know how it works).
That or an extra stun/sleep skil

Yulk - Heavens Tear · August 2010

BM: Stream strike: its broken for aggro thanks to devs, it was meant for taking aggro instead of attacks per seconds =.= but I still use it otherwise, it would be a nice skill to use in squads if it was fixed

Wizard: Emberstorm: low HP + only damage from HP. And wizards have one of the lowest HP pool ingame. Making it a waste of time to bother casting

Archer: winged pledge (right?)l: this is just a melee skill. Why for a ranged class? b:shocked Its useless, and after that its winged shell. I never use it since it will lower my dps which I only use for MP recovering... Well I can just bother with winged shell only for MP recovery, I see no need for that part of the skill tree.

Cleric: revive: believe it or not, revive is a useless skill to bother upgrading. I have yet to see why bother leveling it since it benefits other player's experience but it won't benefit you. On top of that, I keep people alive just fine in squads. I wish devs just made it only just no need for leveling it just for saving 50-70% exp that the player loses until sage/demon version. But even so, its typically the slowest channeling skill ever while it is not reliable during someone dieing either.

Barb: Armageddon (i don't even have it though, level 55)- Reason: cutting your HP in half doesn't cut it for the damage it dishes out. Using it against bosses is dumb. IMHO I can AOE fine without Armageddon and I dish out nice damage with other skills, I rather save 2 sparks for sunder or invoke or firestorm.

Venomancer: Swimming mastery: does no effect

Assassin : stealth: why use stealth when you can just use punture wound, sleep and knife throw? This skill is over rated but meh. Puncture wound kiting is better b:chuckle

Quilue - Sanctuary · August 2010

I believe Demon Emberstorm can stun even if you cast it without charging

I mean sure it doesn't always succeed but it casts faster than Roar.

Vixter - Harshlands · August 2010

veno fox form skill, consume spirit ... sacrifice hp to gain a small amount of mp ... no thanks >_> lol

Yulk - Heavens Tear · August 2010

Vixter - Harshlands wrote: »

veno fox form skill, consume spirit ... sacrifice hp to gain a small amount of mp ... no thanks >_> lol

you don't even aggro b:laugh and life leech depletes it doesn't it? and doesn't it decrease hp cost as you level it?

As for trading skills with other clases ... like veno's befudding mist for essential sutra... I can imagine how boring the game would be to get ultis at level 9 >.>

Longknife - Harshlands · August 2010

I actually can't name a useless Psy skill for the life of me. Even our DoTs are high damage; you won't use them a ton, but sometimes they're useful. Tide form and the flight speed skill are good for getting away, too.

Actually imo, the most "useless" Psy skill is Tide Spirit. It's not actually useless, but it is damn annoying that the game expects me to waste two sparks on a skill that will decrease cast time by near-nothing. If they gave us a Tide Spirit that reduced cast time instead of channel time...THAT'D be useful. When it's reducing .8 seconds to 0 but the 2.2 second cast time stays the same though, you really have to ask yourself if there isn't a better way to spend those sparks before casting it.
Still, it is useful in select cases.

KngGilgamesh - Archosaur · August 2010

Steam Strike, used it once or twice i think, doesn't work.

Allynna_ - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Stormrange Eagletron (think thats what it's called). It costs 2 sparks and a **** ton of Mana to do a small amount of DoT. While the Slow effect does stack with others (aparentally) and the it works even on some 'immune to slow' stuff (aparetally) it costs TWO SPARKS. Also, it's a 59 skill so it costs an arm and leg to learn/level (barrage 5, or Learn Stormrange, err tough choice =p). Also, quickshot pre Demon is more useless IMO, though it costs nothing to level at low levels and is actually useful pre 20.

Also Blessing of the Purehearted is not useless. Useless to level, but it generates 15 Chi per cast. Keep it at a low level and you can spam it for cheap Chi gain (even at level 4, I can spam it non stop with no mana loss out of combat).

I would also Nominate Steam Strike as a pointless to level skill, though if the Agrro does add might be handy (agro doesn't scale with level from what I've been told though).
Actually, No, Mage bane. One spark, does okay damage, and causes increased channel time, and always hits. Wait what? The two kinda useful parts of it are useful on two compeltely different classes. Though whats the point of 50% more channeling time if you can jsut stun them for just as long with Drake Bash?

SovereignVis - Sanctuary · August 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

yeah totally agree wizzys should be able to get a 'cleric class specific skill', in return we should be granted one like Black Ice Dragon Strike

useless skill; Blessing of the Purehearted
replaced with; Black Ice Dragon Strike

LOL, No you can't have Black Ice Dragon. And if you did, it would be no where near as effective as a wizard's Black Ice Dragon.
I think it would be good for a cleric's res to be upgraded to give players 50% of their HP and MP after being resed. Wizard's res would only be at 10% HP and MP, or what ever the default for cleric's is right now. But that would still be better than "Ember Storm".

DDEShare - Raging Tide · August 2010

Demon Emberstorm isn't too bad though. 50% stun is quite nice. If you double click on Emberstorm, you get an instant cast spell that deals....3k ish in PvE? Barely noticeable, but if a melee mob is on you with a sliver of health left, this skill has potential uses. Double clicking the spell doesn't take much off HP pool.

But yeah, this spell is way too situational to be of proper use. Actually come to think of it I haven't touched Crown of Flames at all...

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · August 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

useless skill; Blessing of the Purehearted
replaced with; Black Ice Dragon Strike

That and Thunderball.

Michael_Dark - Lost City · August 2010

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

On my barb I think the only skill I dislike is trueform, I mean reduce attack? No thanks.

Spoken like a true DD. Trueform is for tanking, not for DDing. Demon Trueform = no reduced attack. b:bye

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

BM: Stream strike: its broken for aggro thanks to devs, it was meant for taking aggro instead of attacks per seconds =.= but I still use it otherwise, it would be a nice skill to use in squads if it was fixed

It's not made to steal aggro, all it does is generate threat. At low levels it works fine. At high levels it doesn't work because every other class will take aggro from threat generated purely by damage.

Archer: winged pledge (right?)l: this is just a melee skill. Why for a ranged class? b:shocked Its useless, and after that its winged shell. I never use it since it will lower my dps which I only use for MP recovering... Well I can just bother with winged shell only for MP recovery, I see no need for that part of the skill tree.

Learn to play archer.

Cleric: revive: believe it or not, revive is a useless skill to bother upgrading.

Sage = longer distance. Demon = reduced channeling time.

If you can't see why that would be useful, try leveling past 5x.

Barb: Armageddon (i don't even have it though, level 55)- Reason: cutting your HP in half doesn't cut it for the damage it dishes out. Using it against bosses is dumb. IMHO I can AOE fine without Armageddon and I dish out nice damage with other skills, I rather save 2 sparks for sunder or invoke or firestorm.

Arma is a barbs highest damage skill. It's one of the most OP AoE's in the game. Get your barb to 10x and you would know why everyone loves it.

It's sad you're not a troll. I can't believe someone actually believes it.... well I believe you believe it.

b:chuckle

Lythianaa - Dreamweaver · August 2010

Don't barbs have swimming mastery too?

or is it only venos >.<

Deora - Lost City · August 2010

Michael you beat me to the "ridicule Yulks really stupid post" b:cry

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · August 2010

SovereignVis - Sanctuary wrote: »

LOL, No you can't have Black Ice Dragon. And if you did, it would be no where near as effective as a wizard's Black Ice Dragon.
I think it would be good for a cleric's res to be upgraded to give players 50% of their HP and MP after being resed. Wizard's res would only be at 10% HP and MP, or what ever the default for cleric's is right now. But that would still be better than "Ember Storm".

Wizzys should get a res that subtracts 50% exp overriding GAs. Other than that thers no reason why you should be greedy for a class specific spell and you have the nerve of saying no to Black Ice? Nobody really cares for the leftover HP you get when u res, its the act of being able to revive is the main thing.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It's called Tempest. b:surrender

(Though I would love to get a crit add on it for the Sage or Demon version, preferably Demon b:sin)

no one would complain having another big spell lol

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · August 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Wizzys should get a res that subtracts 50% exp overriding GAs. Other than that thers no reason why you should be greedy for a class specific spell and you have the nerve of saying no to Black Ice? Nobody really cares for the leftover HP you get when u res, its the act of being able to revive is the main thing.

no one would complain having another big spell lol

I would be in favour if Wizzies getting a res spell so we can concentrate on healing.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · August 2010

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would be in favour if Wizzies getting a res spell so we can concentrate on healing.

well in actuality every class has a res spell. Its called Town Teleport. Magic! they come back with 100% HP/MP

But really, good clerics are suppose to be multi-taskers. If its too hard to heal and revive, another class might be worth trying instead....

Yulk - Heavens Tear · August 2010

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Spoken like a true DD. Trueform is for tanking, not for DDing. Demon Trueform = no reduced attack. b:bye

Agreed

It's not made to steal aggro, all it does is generate threat. At low levels it works fine. At high levels it doesn't work because every other class will take aggro from threat generated purely by damage.

It doesn't generate threat like it was meant to. The description says it but it doesn't have the generate threat effect

Learn to play meleearcher.

This is a joke right? Fixed for you lol. NTY i love spamming skills from afar than upclose

Sage = longer distance. Demon = reduced channeling time.
If you can't see why that would be useful, try leveling past 5x.

In RB its useless, if your keeping your squad members alive fine, it is useless. If your paying attention in TT, its useless, Its not hard to keep people alive in the first place, now back at you, learn how to play cleric

Arma is a barbs highest damage skill. It's one of the most OP AoE's in the game. Get your barb to 10x and you would know why everyone loves it.

Meh, like I said, I rather save those 2 sparks for sunder/invoke... I'd even use it for devour. Arma can miss and barbs have the worst accuracy ingame and would you use armageddon in TT3-x? I thought so. Most OP skill ingame is bramble hood, even though PK is broken but i heard and seen barbs one shot themselves while venoes take MUCH less damage. Actual ingame when I saw in duels and saw a screenie when veno's bramble still worked

It's sad you're not a troll. I can't believe someone actually believes it.... well I believe you believe it.

b:chuckle

Being a troll is boring, being realistic is better

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · August 2010

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

well in actuality every class has a res spell. Its called Town Teleport. Magic! they come back with 100% HP/MP

But really, good clerics are suppose to be multi-taskers. If its too hard to heal and revive, another class might be worth trying instead....

Yes but the channeling time take away from the healing maybe for you it is ok being 100 sage or demon.The other rpg I play healers don't do the ressing only heal and protect.

I wish they would go to town if I am busy.

The most useless skill you have?

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