GM Response: DQ Mats price change

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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Grinding just over 200 mobs:

    36,917 in coins -yes coins!
    47,025 in HP pots
    31,150 in DQ
    5,120 in MP pots

    Not included: ammo, equips, quest items, etc.

    I don't think the % drop hurts coin farming as much as I think it could help the DQ market. -Remember this is NPC value. DQ only makes a small portion of the income from grinding, and the percent drop is only a small portion.
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    How long did that take you and what is the grand total?
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How long did that take you and what is the grand total?

    *facepaw*
    here you go.
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  • jamesburr36
    jamesburr36 Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    reducing the repair costs for gear and some of the prices for the pots and **** the NPC's sell.

    But in all honesty though so what if we need 6 DQ drops instead of 5 to sell for the coin.

    Damn, all the QQ'ing here is nausiating to say the least.
  • Quarka - Heavens Tear
    Quarka - Heavens Tear Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    looks like it didn't work. they will slash the dq prices.

    i was gonna say bring back decomping 3*!
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  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Oh looky. 2x xp and tiger packs return. What an astounding surprise.


    I don't flaming well think.




    ... why do they even bother having a forum?
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How long did that take you and what is the grand total?

    Go do it yourself and YOU tell us! My point was to show that DQ is generally over rated. What you're asking for has nothing to do with the point being made.
    Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.
  • Jannove - Harshlands
    Jannove - Harshlands Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    sorry but i cannot find this remotely fair AT ALL...

    from all i hear on the game (rumors and so on) chinese servers get houses, their lvl cap is 150 and they get more content then us.

    SO HOW IS THIS EVEN ****ING FAIR AT ALL PWI?????
    ANSWER THAT HOW IS IT FAIR

    why are u going to **** us over for something THEY (CHINESE) DO WHEN ITS NOT OUR FAULT
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Is 2x exp/drops/spirit our compensation for the DQ NPC-price nerf?
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Jannove - Harshlands wrote: »
    sorry but i cannot find this remotely fair AT ALL...

    from all i hear on the game (rumors and so on) chinese servers get houses, their lvl cap is 150 and they get more content then us.

    SO HOW IS THIS EVEN ****ING FAIR AT ALL PWI?????
    ANSWER THAT HOW IS IT FAIR

    why are u going to **** us over for something THEY (CHINESE) DO WHEN ITS NOT OUR FAULT

    It has been a VERY LONG TIME since PWI has been fair.
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Jannove - Harshlands wrote: »
    sorry but i cannot find this remotely fair AT ALL...

    from all i hear on the game (rumors and so on) chinese servers get houses, their lvl cap is 150 and they get more content then us.

    SO HOW IS THIS EVEN ****ING FAIR AT ALL PWI?????
    ANSWER THAT HOW IS IT FAIR

    why are u going to **** us over for something THEY (CHINESE) DO WHEN ITS NOT OUR FAULT

    Ok i'm gonna stop you right there. This game USED to be pay to play, many many years ago. Back then there was housing & 150 level cap. Then they modified it (in China) to a new version making it the free to play version. They reduced the level cap to 105 & removed housing as it would be a disaster on a game with no payment required to make 50,000 new accounts for houses.

    Anyhow, except for translation, and a several week lag time for content, PW-CN is identical to PWI.
  • ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary
    ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    *Snip*The DQ price change was originally made because of rampant gold-farming in the Chinese version of the game. It's a drastic measure, but one that was deemed necessary on their end*end snip*

    Gold Farming or Coin Farming? If its Gold Farming tell them to cap the price of selling Gold at 100k that will depreciate the cost of everything drastically. If its Coin farming why bother then the coin in game isnt worth a damn here and since theyve been at it longer than we have the coin there must be worth even less. When was the last time anyone spent coin to buy a Perfect Iron Hammer (5gold) at the average price of 400k per gold? That makes the 1 Million Coin Chest completely worthless since it costs twice as much to buy it then what you get. (And isnt it a great award for RB's and CoF's?)
    Nuff said
    No matter how far you go, there you are.b:beatup
  • Disemboweler - Sanctuary
    Disemboweler - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary wrote: »
    *Snip*The DQ price change was originally made because of rampant gold-farming in the Chinese version of the game. It's a drastic measure, but one that was deemed necessary on their end*end snip*

    Gold Farming or Coin Farming? If its Gold Farming tell them to cap the price of selling Gold at 100k that will depreciate the cost of everything drastically. If its Coin farming why bother then the coin in game isnt worth a damn here and since theyve been at it longer than we have the coin there must be worth even less. When was the last time anyone spent coin to buy a Perfect Iron Hammer (5gold) at the average price of 400k per gold? That makes the 1 Million Coin Chest completely worthless since it costs twice as much to buy it then what you get. (And isnt it a great award for RB's and CoF's?)
    Nuff said

    It's too bad DR shut down, 'aint it. b:cry
  • XFenris_ - Heavens Tear
    XFenris_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    you people just want us buy more gold this bs and you know it every thing so much im quit f u all
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm surprised a lot of the high levels complain about DQ price drops...if anything you would think it'd be the lower levels complaining.

    At lower levels, since you do mostly quests, your coin needed for gear and skills come from these mob drops. Mob drops are important to a lower level player because can't really make money any other way

    However, at higher levels, your expenses are more gold related. Plus your needs have far exceeded what you can get from grinding. Simply put, if i want CV claws, will i seriously grind coin for it? SERIOUSLY? i wouldn't even grind coin if i need a charm. it's simply too pointless. there are other ways of making money at higher levels, and you have to find out how. to still grind mindlessly is just ridiculous and will get you nowhere. is it sad that the game is sort of punishing you for playing the game? well yeah, but be realistic.

    when they x2 dropped on TTs, yeah i can see why some were angry. however, DQ seriously should not be your main income source at 9x even if you are F2P

    what i would like is for quest coin rewards to increase to compensate, that way a lowbie can still get his/her skills learned by playing the game normally.
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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    Qui: b:dirty
  • EdmondDantes - Lost City
    EdmondDantes - Lost City Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    So... instead of offering to make it up to the players (I have no faith in your "compensations" since the TB hair glitch and the way that ended... ) why not just leave prices the same for our version?

    Wouldn't that be an easier solution?
  • ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary
    ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Disemboweler - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It's too bad DR shut down, 'aint it. b:cry

    Yeah it is but life goes on... To an ImPerfect World
    No matter how far you go, there you are.b:beatup
  • Darkjagans - Heavens Tear
    Darkjagans - Heavens Tear Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    EdmondDantes - Lost City wrote: »
    So... instead of offering to make it up to the players (I have no faith in your "compensations" since the TB hair glitch and the way that ended... ) why not just leave prices the same for our version?

    Wouldn't that be an easier solution?

    lol quite simply yes
  • Disemboweler - Sanctuary
    Disemboweler - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yeah it is but life goes on... To an ImPerfect World

    Sadly. .....
  • Torsay - Sanctuary
    Torsay - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    when they x2 dropped on TTs, yeah i can see why some were angry. however, DQ seriously should not be your main income source at 9x even if you are F2P

    Trust me I can make better money from grinding than from TT90s and lower. The higher ones take too long for me.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    it takes too long cuz you don't roll with really good DDs.

    1 city of abomination event can net you millions for an hour (depending on your squad, you don't need godly equip if you heal for friends with godly equips)

    dealing in some sort of boutique sales (pack or not) is good, depends on your existing coin pool tho

    for those that Nirvana (i guess you in 7 levels), a good squad runs 1 in less than 30min. i have friends that routinely runs 3-4 a day.

    mini world bosses (which you can farm everyday as well), world bosses (some can be done with 3 people, it takes like an hour, but hey, if 1 good shard drops thats 1m to each squad member, not bad for an hour), the list goes on.

    if you have the time to go grinding all day long, might as well look into those.

    again, say you need a lunar wep or a legendary pet, are you going to farm DQ for it? seriously?
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Sint - Harshlands
    Sint - Harshlands Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh looky. 2x xp and tiger packs return. What an astounding surprise.


    I don't flaming well think.




    ... why do they even bother having a forum?
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is 2x exp/drops/spirit our compensation for the DQ NPC-price nerf?


    my thoughts exactly.

    franky lied.b:sad
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sint - Harshlands wrote: »
    my thoughts exactly.

    franky lied.b:sad

    Boy did me, and quite a few others, call this one or not. b:cry
  • Dess - Heavens Tear
    Dess - Heavens Tear Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm surprised a lot of the high levels complain about DQ price drops...if anything you would think it'd be the lower levels complaining.

    At lower levels, since you do mostly quests, your coin needed for gear and skills come from these mob drops. Mob drops are important to a lower level player because can't really make money any other way

    However, at higher levels, your expenses are more gold related. Plus your needs have far exceeded what you can get from grinding. Simply put, if i want CV claws, will i seriously grind coin for it? SERIOUSLY? i wouldn't even grind coin if i need a charm. it's simply too pointless. there are other ways of making money at higher levels, and you have to find out how. to still grind mindlessly is just ridiculous and will get you nowhere. is it sad that the game is sort of punishing you for playing the game? well yeah, but be realistic.

    when they x2 dropped on TTs, yeah i can see why some were angry. however, DQ seriously should not be your main income source at 9x even if you are F2P

    what i would like is for quest coin rewards to increase to compensate, that way a lowbie can still get his/her skills learned by playing the game normally.

    I think the reason you dont see all that many low lvls btching about is
    1: most true noobs dont post here all that much, and
    2: a lot of the high lvls who are btching have low lvl alts who will be affected by this.

    I think this DQ price nerf is ****, but theres not a damn thing i can do aside from quit playing. Which im not going to do. Yet.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Go do it yourself and YOU tell us! My point was to show that DQ is generally over rated. What you're asking for has nothing to do with the point being made.

    I would get exactly as you posted I don't think so.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    So the DQ nerf is permanent, but the 2x is a limited-time event..
    *good job calllin' it, Keph*

     **** you too, PWE. **** you too.



  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So the DQ nerf is permanent, but the 2x is a limited-time event..
    **** you too, PWE. **** you too.


    Yeah this is getting edited by a mod later. I'm past caring.

    This is the heaviest tone I've ever seen in one of your posts.

    And I couldn't agree more.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Torsay - Sanctuary
    Torsay - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it takes too long cuz you don't roll with really good DDs.

    Yeap. They dont waste too much time in 90s. Mostly people under level 89 wanna do TT90s.

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1 city of abomination event can net you millions for an hour (depending on your squad, you don't need godly equip if you heal for friends with godly equips)

    I think that one is time related? Well I stopped doing quests few levels ago they arent worth the time mostly.

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    dealing in some sort of boutique sales (pack or not) is good, depends on your existing coin pool tho

    I find merchanting pretty boring. I've got 9 mil atm.

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    for those that Nirvana (i guess you in 7 levels), a good squad runs 1 in less than 30min. i have friends that routinely runs 3-4 a day.

    So you think I should just hyper to level 100? I've been told its same boring there just like in 90s.

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    mini world bosses (which you can farm everyday as well), world bosses (some can be done with 3 people, it takes like an hour, but hey, if 1 good shard drops thats 1m to each squad member, not bad for an hour), the list goes on.

    Thats what good DDs do? I find healing on world bosses pretty annoying. It takes alot of concentration. I wonder who can tank WBs with only one cleric. Propably level 100 barb?

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if you have the time to go grinding all day long, might as well look into those.

    Nope, dont have much time to play. Thats also why its not easy to get into squad other than FC/BH or other exp only related ones.

    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    again, say you need a lunar wep or a legendary pet, are you going to farm DQ for it? seriously?

    Yeah I think I want to get lunar wand and this last update is gonna make my progress slower.
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    frankieraye wrote: »
    It is for this reason that we are actively pushing for something to be done in our version to counteract this DQ price change.

    SO price change is in effect and PWI did nothing in the end...

    I told you that would happens ^_^

    Next step : this thread will be locked.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sint - Harshlands wrote: »
    my thoughts exactly.

    franky lied.b:sad

    Of course he did.

    His loyalty first goes to his boss, not us the player base. He only did what his boss told him to do.

    Boss : Say them something that will calm them down a bit.

    Frankie : Yes boss.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
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