Assassin and Psychic Sage/ Demon Skills

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  • Ryoku_ - Dreamweaver
    Ryoku_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    b:cry i wanted a elemental boost like wood (venom) damage b:cry


    btw i dont know which to select, cause with sage i get +30% damage with daggers meaning 60%normal +30% sage =90%) for me it by pass for much the demon wich is only +1% crit
    cause fora a sin that should be like 2%+

    about the raving slash, read it again cause i doent lower the oponet defence for 50, it lower YOUR SELF DEFENCE for 50% (its like the frenzy)

    b:cry i dont know what to choose and im lv 89 right now QQ
    can anybody help me plz?

    About me: in pk im a fan of chill of depp cause im a skill spamer
    but if i can get like interval bettween hits like 3.0+ ill forget about that chill of deep b:cute

    umm so you know demon dagger mastery will actually be 75% not 60% and also 1% crit.
  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Actually, theres no news if Sins will get the -interval spark. If it happens thats awesome, but there is a chance that sins will get a Veno spark instead something like 650% weapon attackfor 15 seconds.

    Im also glad that sins dont get an elemental boost like blazing arrow, I'd hate it if that happened QQ

    i doubt it since veno can be both a physical melee class and a magic class so there case is special. sins are a pure physical class tho and no magic use what so ever so its more likely they will get the interval spark.
  • MysticMomo - Heavens Tear
    MysticMomo - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    going demon ftwb:victory

    O_O MASTER!!! LOL b:pleased
  • Samsoul - Lost City
    Samsoul - Lost City Posts: 259 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    O.o sage bubble of life is like a purify aoe?

    If thats the case, I BE ONE HAPPY FISH.

    Even if its not aoe, purify is bloody useful. :3
    Samsoul - fail psychic of Lost City!

    ...I will melt your brain... and decrease your IQ by 150...

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    O.o sage bubble of life is like a purify aoe?

    If thats the case, I BE ONE HAPPY FISH.

    Even if its not aoe, purify is bloody useful. :3

    I've always said that purify needs to be an AoE. If that's the case, sage psy ftw.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "Closing this for excess letter Q's" - hawk
  • Samsoul - Lost City
    Samsoul - Lost City Posts: 259 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    WOW! He reads my post!
    Samsoul - fail psychic of Lost City!

    ...I will melt your brain... and decrease your IQ by 150...

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    <--Only reads posts with 4 lines or less. b:victory
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "Closing this for excess letter Q's" - hawk
  • UberDemon - Harshlands
    UberDemon - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Geez just cool it down Sage/Demon skills both great it all depends what your fighting style is. Anyone over looks sage skills and think Attack Rate is everything is a first class noob in my book. Btw yes, i did go Sage for the simple reason that i dont usually pvp 1-1 b:bye
  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Geez just cool it down Sage/Demon skills both great it all depends what your fighting style is. Anyone over looks sage skills and think Attack Rate is everything is a first class noob in my book. Btw yes, i did go Sage for the simple reason that i dont usually pvp 1-1 b:bye

    so....uberdemon is sage? IT MUST BE OPPOSITE DAY!b:laugh
  • skyxiii
    skyxiii Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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    Sage Cant Stun lock as perfectly as a Demon
    so when u use the *50% less defence* on the weakest endgame armor
    and u cant stunlock, they will stun u or just 1 hit u
    before u know what happened

    Look at the Facts b:thanks

    Not to be rude or frank, but your point is kinda invalid.
    I love how all these high level sins are touting 'stunlock' as a advantage for demon sins. A lv 86 sin can perfect lock, which is before demon or sage. Please learn more about your class.
  • Chickpea - Lost City
    Chickpea - Lost City Posts: 165 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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    skyxiii wrote: »
    Not to be rude or frank, but your point is kinda invalid.
    I love how all these high level sins are touting 'stunlock' as a advantage for demon sins. A lv 86 sin can perfect lock, which is before demon or sage. Please learn more about your class.

    Exactly lol. Even 8X sins can hold you in place for pretty long time, and than there is always occult ice + strength build genie if your control skills for some reason would run out.

    Sage Raving slash will be used kinda like frenzy. You wont pop it unless you use dmg immune-pot before or have the target stun locked.

    Also its just a 50% reduction of Eq value, you will still have a bit of defense left from stats and buffs. Dont know how many times i accidentally popped frenzy (which reduces defense by 100% gear value) while tanking Ancient Evil and Emperor Doom on my archer and didn't die. Not saying sins should try to tank players with -50% reduction but you will not be that much more squishy than you already is.
  • Ganshu - Archosaur
    Ganshu - Archosaur Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2010
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    yeah thank you :)
  • HUN_Loui$ - Heavens Tear
    HUN_Loui$ - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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    hiya!

    anyone know that the sage bubble of life dispell all negative status effect is aoe?
    I mean the bubble of life can be used on the whole squad, does even the purify?
  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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    BLOOD BANE II: THE RISE OF NECROMANCY. Coming to theaters this fall.


    And I don't know the answer to your question.
    Lonely man with a big heart.
  • code4destruction
    code4destruction Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2010
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    Guys I'm a psy so I really don't care about all this sin stuff so can someone give me some psy analysis plz. Here's my two cents on who has the edge on each skill

    Aqua Impact: Demon (if that attack reduced is correct i like it)
    Black Vodoo: Sage
    Torrent: Sage
    Bubble: Sage
    Aqua Cannon: Demon (if ur really trying to immobolize at this range ur already dead)
    Glacial Shards: Demon (big time op I love it)
    Emp Vigor: Demon
    Disturb Soul: Even
    Tide Spirit: Demon
    Red Tide: Demon
    Aqua Spirit: Sage
    Earthen Spirit: Sage
    Spirit Blast: Demon
    White Vodoo: Sage
    Landslide: Even
    Sandburst: Demon (who wants extended range that could bring unwanted aggro)
    Dim Vigor: Demon
    Soulburn: Sage
    Earth Vector: Demon (1 spark wth)
    Psy Will: Demon
    Vengeance: Sage (this would be a god send to any tank in ur squad)
    Soul Stunning: Demon
    Soul Silence: Demon (this needs a better cast chance cause it can be really useful)
    Soul Vengeance: Sage (reduced dmg is what i use this for)

    Totals: Demon 13
    Sage 9

    I'm still a semi-noob so feel free to give your input and lets take a break from sin yapping all day. I know u guys seemed like sage at first but i'm kinda leaning demon a bit, maybe its just my play style. I will admit that the sage bubble and dots are really tempting. Where is sandtrap btw that would give sage another point probably.

    b:victory ty so much for this. i was going to do the same thing to decide and am also a nooby...just reached lvl 63. i am a pure psy with any extra points going into dex for added crit (now at 3% b/c of gear). so i'm painfully squish but can still aggro from bm's 10 lvls higher if a crit. which isn't always a good thing >_>

    anyway. from what i've learned through more error than not is that you never want an enemy close to you u. ever! in fact, don't even aoe unless u start with glacial shards and hope it freezes them, it's only two enemies if they hit hard, and you know u can kill em in 3 -4 hits. which, any pure psy should be able to do with an enemy your level.

    with that in mind, the demon build seems perfect for what i'm already doing. i do like some sage features suck as black voodoo and soul of vengeance, but the advantages to demon outweigh.

    my biggest turn off to sage psy is likely the expanded range of sandburst. if you lag and pull an enemy you didn't see in, you're dead. laggy squishies, better off with demon unless you have white voodoo on and a more durable build than a crit psy.

    now i'm sure some would say i'm crazy to sacrifice my vit and str for dex (which is wholly useless to a psy) but i tell you, i love criting every 5 or 6 hits and when u crit aoe...b:dirty

    psy hit harder and faster than most DD's of the same lvl, at least from what i've experienced. wizzies i haven't seen too much of but i know they are stronger mages and slower channelers.

    finally, chances are, if you are a psy you have died enough to make several cleric friends. therefore, you'll have cleric buffs most of the time and your own personal angel to heal you. so if you like to party with a cleric and do dungeon runs, i say focus more on power and speed than durability. solo will be difficult but you'll be more useful in a party with a good barb and cleric.

    this is all just my assumption of course. play the game how you will. try both sides and see what you like better. people have different fighting styles. some don't like draining mp and hp pots all the time, some don't like spending longer than a minute on a monster to whittle down their health.
  • DoomKaiser - Harshlands
    DoomKaiser - Harshlands Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited September 2010
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    necro?
    Your doubt is our powerb:thanks
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
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    necro?

    necro!


    duh, read the actual skill descriptions... they are available now...

    sage psy ftwb:victory
  • russki91
    russki91 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Is everyone forgetting what sins are used for?
    Sins are quick, mid-high damage, but low defence... Duh > DD
    I need someone to help me to choose and there are people arguing about TW vs PK?
    Or PVP(PK) vs PVE...

    ****, Sage or Demon? FOR a DD sin...

    Can someone answer my question without comparing?
    How can I support a tank with heavy damage?

    Thanks in anticipation of your non-nabby reply b:surrender
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    hiya!

    anyone know that the sage bubble of life dispell all negative status effect is aoe?
    I mean the bubble of life can be used on the whole squad, does even the purify?


    If it says "Negative Status Effect" THAT would be considered a purify. The answer to your question is "yes".
    Also, I believe Urdian and Hypnos already complied an accurate list for the Psychic skills, but I'll compare that list with this one just to make sure it's fully correct.
  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Wth this thread has been necroed like 3 times on just this page.

    EDIT: Last page, seems my post made a new one <.<
    Semi-retired due to continuing mind boggling displays of stupidity from PWI
  • russki91
    russki91 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    I think i awoke teh dragon with my nab post... :D

    Noone seems to know the answer yet, guess i better wait :/

    Mehhh... hopefully, i might have it answered with this DAMN sever maintenence down time eating up my day -.-