Assassin and Psychic Sage/ Demon Skills

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  • Sarq - Dreamweaver
    Sarq - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    keyshey wrote: »
    question,

    if you reduce the max hp for 10s, once the effect is over, do they gain those hp back?

    If i am reading it right, that skill would be the same as the archers level 6 Sharpened tooth arrow
  • _Whisper_ - Raging Tide
    _Whisper_ - Raging Tide Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Euphy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I think this is a perfect summary... I'd argue that Sage Blood Paint is well worth it so my count was D:S | 11:6 but in the end that hardly makes a difference. Psychics will be more balanced across the cultivations thought which is nice. Demon Assassin books will be incredibly expensive though so good luck to you all!
    @keyshey: They do not get their health back after the buff wears off. So it basically does 10% damage too.

    Do people not understand that Assassins are squishy??? Did it not occur to you that sins are perfect in PVE and worse in PVP then Sage Assassin like i have stated???

    Alright, lets ask all the pk Assassins what buff they use the most in PK, yes this is Chill of the Deep. Now considering this, you guys are getting annoyed that you have 2 spam skills? When you did that already since you got chill of the deep in PK? Alright if thats not enough, does anyone understand that an Sage Assassin could have 45 attack levels just using the skills they have? or 5 attack levels less then a warsoul?

    Ok lemme ask some more questions

    Does it not occur to you that Assassins as specialist Classes that Attack, kill their opponent in as lil amount of time as possible then disappear without a trace? Does it not occur to you that we get chi like madman so we can pretty much spam our Sparks if needed? Oh and lastly, did it occur to you that Assassins are not meant to kill Heavy armor because we are SQUISHY??? If so, why do you worry about DPS when if you can get totally past an enemies charm, arnt the kinda dead anyway??? Just my opinion, but you guys really need to research what an assassin really is before blurting out "Omg DPS is better" when in the end, it will get you killed, mmk?
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    _Whisper_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Do people not understand that Assassins are squishy??? Did it not occur to you that sins are perfect in PVE and worse in PVP then Sage Assassin like i have stated???

    Alright, lets ask all the pk Assassins what buff they use the most in PK, yes this is Chill of the Deep. Now considering this, you guys are getting annoyed that you have 2 spam skills? When you did that already since you got chill of the deep in PK? Alright if thats not enough, does anyone understand that an Sage Assassin could have 45 attack levels just using the skills they have? or 5 attack levels less then a warsoul?

    Ok lemme ask some more questions

    Does it not occur to you that Assassins as specialist Classes that Attack, kill their opponent in as lil amount of time as possible then disappear without a trace? Does it not occur to you that we get chi like madman so we can pretty much spam our Sparks if needed? Oh and lastly, did it occur to you that Assassins are not meant to kill Heavy armor because we are SQUISHY??? If so, why do you worry about DPS when if you can get totally past an enemies charm, arnt the kinda dead anyway??? Just my opinion, but you guys really need to research what an assassin really is before blurting out "Omg DPS is better" when in the end, it will get you killed, mmk?


    i am going to say this. people use CoD in pvp mainly because they have no wear near the atk speed needed for decent DPS. it has DPH vs DPS has been discussed to death and the results have always been in favor of DPS. but good DPS is not a easy thing to get in this game.

    DPS is what takes down HAs, DPH is what takes down squishies alot faster. but the thing is sins can already take down squishies extremely fast even without sage/demon forms. so the real question you need to ask yourself is "will we have enought DPH as sage to take down a HA before they take us down?"

    imho i do not think you will. as you said yourself sins are a very squishy class. and all of there atks are physical based atks going up against targets that have the best Pdef and HP in the game. ontop of that one of your sage skills makes you even more squishy because of the -50% armor break effect.

    with DPS we will have high speed atks and near constant crits to take down HAs faster then DPHing will do on HAs. think about it for a second. 5atks per second combined with power dash+demon sparks+subsea+wolf emblems 40% crit dmg increase+armor breaks from genie skills like tangling mire=ownage

    that is more dmg then any kind of DPH will do to a HA in a very very short timeframe. and demon sins still have amazing chi gaining skills so chi will not be a issue especially combined with 5atks per second.

    so that yes when it boils down to sage sin vs demon sin the question you HAVE to ask yourself is "can i take down HAs faster with skill spamming and DPHing or DPSing?" because after all HAs is our weakness and what we have trouble dealing with the most. if we can take down HAs we are all set.
  • SaphireDemon - Lost City
    SaphireDemon - Lost City Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    _Whisper_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Do people not understand that Assassins are squishy??? Did it not occur to you that sins are perfect in PVE and worse in PVP then Sage Assassin like i have stated???

    Alright, lets ask all the pk Assassins what buff they use the most in PK, yes this is Chill of the Deep. Now considering this, you guys are getting annoyed that you have 2 spam skills? When you did that already since you got chill of the deep in PK? Alright if thats not enough, does anyone understand that an Sage Assassin could have 45 attack levels just using the skills they have? or 5 attack levels less then a warsoul?

    Sage:
    CoD(strong) -> Wolf emblem(weak)->Throat Cut/Headhunt(weak)

    Vs

    Demon:
    CoD(weak) -> Wolf emblem(Strong)->Throat Cut/Headhunt(Strong)


    I'd prefer demon
    having 1 weak skill and
    spamming tons of OP skills that can stun lock like a **** wins

    then having 1 strong skill and what?
    teleporting to them every 30 sec until they die of boredom?
    using aoe skills that do far less dmg then Thoat Cut/ Headhunt ?

    Sage Cant Stun lock as perfectly as a Demon
    so when u use the *50% less defence* on the weakest endgame armor
    and u cant stunlock, they will stun u or just 1 hit u
    before u know what happened

    Look at the Facts b:thanks
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    ppl should also remember CoD is only 5 atk lvls higher then a regular CoD. that is like what 5% increase? its not that significant. and sage raving slash only lasts 5 seconds and the skill itself does pitiful dmg and costs chi at that. i think people are giving to much credit to sage CoD and overhyping it way to much.
  • Camerlengo - Dreamweaver
    Camerlengo - Dreamweaver Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thanks for the translations, If this is accurate, I'm most definitely going sage. (kinda ironic, I'll have a Demon Cleric and a Sage Assassin. XD)
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  • Accel - Raging Tide
    Accel - Raging Tide Posts: 673 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So everyone going demon aiming for 5 aps, good luck getting them gears b:chuckle
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Accel - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So everyone going demon aiming for 5 aps, good luck getting them gears b:chuckle

    its no diffrent from the gear you will need to support all the tanking you will be doing against HAs with a -50% armor break debuff tbh =/ and if you actually intend to even think about trying to 2 or 3 hit HAs be prepared to make +10 or higher daggers and Patk ornaments.

    both sage and demon require expensive gear to make the most of them.
  • Accel - Raging Tide
    Accel - Raging Tide Posts: 673 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    its no diffrent from the gear you will need to support all the tanking you will be doing against HAs with a -50% armor break debuff tbh =/ and if you actually intend to even think about trying to 2 or 3 hit HAs be prepared to make +10 or higher daggers and Patk ornaments.

    both sage and demon require expensive gear to make the most of them.

    Well if you're going for 5 aps, as a sin you're gonna need.. iirc

    Lunar Wing Trophy
    Tome Love up and down
    Ashura's set
    Rank 8 chest
    Rank 6/Nirvana daggers
    Lionheart set bonus
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    rank 8 chest is not needed anymore now that demon is confirmed for sins just as a fyi.
  • Accel - Raging Tide
    Accel - Raging Tide Posts: 673 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ah, still pretty pricey.. might be unobtainable for a casual gamer :p
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  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    yay demon lets go demon!
  • hallsvaporaction
    hallsvaporaction Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    A content pack is being prepared. Not only will the tideborns get their demon and sage skills, you'll get a chance to switch from demon to sage or sage to demon if you don't like the path you chose. So when the time comes, try both and find out for yourself which is a better fit.

    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20100317/45455.shtml
  • WarsouI - Sanctuary
    WarsouI - Sanctuary Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    at first i used cotd but nowadays cotd is pretty much useless.. i never use it.. seems to be pointless, stunlock and regular hitting does fine against most if not all things.
  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    hallsvaporaction wrote: »
    a Content Pack Is Being Prepared. Not Only Will The Tideborns Get Their Demon And Sage Skills, You'll Get A Chance To Switch From Demon To Sage Or Sage To Demon If You Don't Like The Path You Chose. So When The Time Comes, Try Both And Find Out For Yourself Which Is A Better Fit.

    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20100317/45455.shtml

    laaaaaaaaame!!!
  • Crypsis - Lost City
    Crypsis - Lost City Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    hallsvaporaction wrote: »
    A content pack is being prepared. Not only will the tideborns get their demon and sage skills, you'll get a chance to switch from demon to sage or sage to demon if you don't like the path you chose. So when the time comes, try both and find out for yourself which is a better fit.

    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20100317/45455.shtml

    I cant read Chinese someone translate b:cry

    Also, Google translator sucks >.<
  • hallsvaporaction
    hallsvaporaction Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Crypsis - Lost City wrote: »
    I cant read Chinese someone translate b:cry

    Also, Google translator sucks >.<

    Most of the page is just advertising fluff. Here's what I can distill from reading it.

    1. Public testing of the content on the Chinese servers starts on March 31st.
    2. Tideborns get their demon/sage skills.
    3. At certain points during your sage/demon cultivation, you will have the choice to switch sides. (I'm guessing that if it's restricted, it'll probably occur at levels 99 and 100)
    4. There are hints at other added content in the demon/sage worlds in terms of instances, mobs, gears, etc. No elaborations on them, so don't keep your hopes too high.
  • Anemone_ - Harshlands
    Anemone_ - Harshlands Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    When they say "Packs" does this mean a content patch?

    Or will the skills come from a literal pack? like something purchased from the boutique.
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  • hallsvaporaction
    hallsvaporaction Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Anemone_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    When they say "Packs" does this mean a content patch?

    Or will the skills come from a literal pack? like something purchased from the boutique.

    It's added game content, not a cashshop pack. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there are CS pack releases to celebrate the content update...
  • CrystalPax - Raging Tide
    CrystalPax - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Guys I'm a psy so I really don't care about all this sin stuff so can someone give me some psy analysis plz. Here's my two cents on who has the edge on each skill

    Aqua Impact: Demon (if that attack reduced is correct i like it)
    Black Vodoo: Sage
    Torrent: Sage
    Bubble: Sage
    Aqua Cannon: Demon (if ur really trying to immobolize at this range ur already dead)
    Glacial Shards: Demon (big time op I love it)
    Emp Vigor: Demon
    Disturb Soul: Even
    Tide Spirit: Demon
    Red Tide: Demon
    Aqua Spirit: Sage
    Earthen Spirit: Sage
    Spirit Blast: Demon
    White Vodoo: Sage
    Landslide: Even
    Sandburst: Demon (who wants extended range that could bring unwanted aggro)
    Dim Vigor: Demon
    Soulburn: Sage
    Earth Vector: Demon (1 spark wth)
    Psy Will: Demon
    Vengeance: Sage (this would be a god send to any tank in ur squad)
    Soul Stunning: Demon
    Soul Silence: Demon (this needs a better cast chance cause it can be really useful)
    Soul Vengeance: Sage (reduced dmg is what i use this for)

    Totals: Demon 13
    Sage 9

    I'm still a semi-noob so feel free to give your input and lets take a break from sin yapping all day. I know u guys seemed like sage at first but i'm kinda leaning demon a bit, maybe its just my play style. I will admit that the sage bubble and dots are really tempting. Where is sandtrap btw that would give sage another point probably.
  • Jupitar - Sanctuary
    Jupitar - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    well so far even if nothing changes i think im going sage
  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ascii - Harshlands wrote: »
    Links provided by "Bludd" translated as best as i can. Credit to RoidAbuse for some Sin corrections

    Sage Assassin http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1523929
    Demon Assassin http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1523935
    Sage Psychic http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1523947
    Demon Psychic http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1523940

    PLEASE NOTE these are the chinese versions of the sage and demon, not PWI, these may change at any time before released here. i may have also translated some wrong though ive tryed my best.

    Assassin

    Deep Sting
    Sage: Cooldown Reduced by 2 seconds
    Demon: Sleep Duration increased by 3 seconds

    Throat cut
    Sage: 25% Chance to not consume chi
    Demon: "25% chance of injury to deepen" (unknown)

    Earthen Rift
    Sage: Damage increased to 430% Weapon Damage
    Demon: Has 20% Chance to Deal 30% More Damage

    Subsea Strike
    Sage: Amplify effect increased to 50%
    Demon: Amplify duration increased to 15 seconds

    Inner Harmony
    Sage: 30% chance to gain additional 100 Chi
    Demon: "Release time less 0.5 seconds" (Unknown)

    Twin Strike
    Sage: 20% Chance to gain 20 Chi
    Demon: Channel and Cooldown reduced by 0.1 Seconds

    Headhunt
    Sage: 50% chance to only comsume 1 Spark
    Demon: Stun effect increased by 1 second

    Raving Slash
    Sage: Increases Attack level increase by 10 and reduces users defence by 50% Equipment value for 5 seconds.
    Demon: 40% Chance to reduce Opponents Speed by 90%. Effect extended by 5 Seconds.

    Rib Strike
    Sage: Reduces Target Attack speed by an additional 15%
    Demon: Reduces Targets Maximum HP By 10% for 10 Seconds. (< WTF Owned much lol? b:shocked)

    Windpush
    Sage: Cooldown reduce by 10 seconds.
    Demon: Effect Extended by 3 seconds.

    Maze Steps
    Sage: Effect Extended by an Additional 2 seconds.
    Demon: Immune Resist effect reduced to 80% Chance but Effect Extended by 10 seconds.

    Dagger Devotion
    Sage: Damaged increased to 90% Weapon Damage
    Demon: Critical Hit increased by 1%

    Focused Mind
    Sage: Chance to resist hit increased by 8%
    Demon: "Dodge with 10% of the damage effects" (unknown)

    Shadow Escape
    Sage: Removes any Negative Effects
    Demon: Cooldown Reduced by 15 Seconds

    Bloodpaint
    Sage: Drain Effect increased to 3%
    Demon: Increases Evasion

    Deaden Nerves
    Sage: Effect duration extended by 30 seconds
    Demon: HP Recovery Effect increased to 35% maximum HP

    Slipstream Strike
    Sage: Cooldown reduced by 1 second
    Demon: 30% Chance to increase attack rate by 20% (again WTF lol Owned o.O)

    Power Dash
    Sage: 50% chance to only Consume 1 spark.
    Demon: 30% Chance to increase the duration by 3 seconds.

    Tackling slash
    Sage: Immobilize target effect extended by an additional 2 seconds
    Demon: Immobilize target effect extended by 20 seconds at the cost of reducing the chance to Immobilize to 50%

    Tidal Protection
    Sage: Chance to resist Negative effects increased by 16%
    Demon: "With 10% of the negative effects of the state dodge" (Unknown)

    Tide Form
    Sage: Swimming Speed increased by 20%
    Demon: Adds an Additional 3 Defence

    Puncture Wound
    Sage: Bleed Damage increased by 20%
    Demon: Bleed Time reduced by 3 seconds

    Wolf Emblem
    Sage: Effect lasts 30 Minutes, but decreased to 20%
    Demon: Rage Damage Effect increased to 40%

    Knife Throw
    Sage: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
    Demon: 100% chance to interrupt enemies channelling

    Chill of the Deep
    Sage: Adds an additional 5 Attack levels
    Demon: Attack speed Reduction reduced to 70%

    Rising Dragon Strike
    Sage: Gain an Additional 30 Chi
    Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds

    Shadow Jump
    Sage: Chi cost Reduced to 10
    Demon: Distance increased to 35m

    Shadow Teleport
    Sage: Cooldown reduced to 30 seconds
    Demon: Stun Time increased by 2 seconds

    Psychic

    Aqua Impact
    Sage: Slow effect increased by 10%
    Demon: 20% chance to reduce opponents attack level by 30 (unsure)

    Black Voodoo
    Sage: Attack level increased by an additional 3
    Demon: Defence level reduced by 3

    Torrent
    Sage: Deals an additional 1200 water damage over 15 seconds
    Demon: Effect reduced by 3 seconds.

    Bubble of Life
    Sage: Removes any Negative effects
    Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds

    Aqua Cannon
    Sage: 30% chance to immobilize the target for 3 seconds.
    Demon: 50% chance for opponent to take an additional 4518.8 water damage over 6 seconds.

    Glacial Shards
    Sage: Immobilize effect increased by 2 seconds
    Demon: 100% chance to immobilize target.

    Empowered Vigor
    Sage: Reduces charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
    Demon: Healing Effects increased by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%

    Disturb Soul
    Sage: Effect extended by an additional 3 seconds
    Demon: channelling reduce effect increased to 100%

    Tide Spirit
    Sage: Reduced channel effect increased by 3 seconds
    Demon: Adds an additional 20% weapon damage for 15 seconds.

    Red Tide
    Sage: 50% chance to consume 1 spark only
    Demon: Bleed effect increased to x1.2 of Soulforce.

    Aqua Spirit
    Sage: Additional 5% water damage
    Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%

    Earthen Spirit
    Sage: Additional 5% Earth damage
    Demon: Critical hit increased by 1%

    Spirit Blast
    Sage: 20% chance to deal 30% more damage (unsure)
    Demon: Adds an Additional 361 damage

    White Voodoo
    Sage: Defence level increased by an additional 5
    Demon: Channel Time Reduced by 3% (< O_o OP much?)

    Landslide
    Sage: Knockback distance extended by 3 metres
    Demon: 30% Chance to inflict an additional 50% damage over 4seconds (unsure)

    Sandburst Blast
    Sage: Area Effect extended to 10 metres
    Demon: 20% chance to reduce accuracy by an additional 20% for 8 seconds.

    Diminished Vigor
    Sage: Increases charm cooling time by an additional 1 second
    Demon: Healing Effects reduced by an additional 5%, Potions by an additional 10%

    Soulburn
    Sage: effect extended by 2 seconds.
    Demon: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds

    Earth Vector
    Sage: 50% chance to not consume a spark
    Demon: Range increased by 2 metres

    Psychic Will
    Sage: 20% chance to not consume Chi.
    Demon: Effect extended by 2 seconds

    Soul of Vengeance
    Sage: Will not reduce your Mana points
    Demon: Damage reflected increased by 4% of Soulforce

    Soul of Stunning
    Sage: Cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
    Demon: Stun time increased by 1 second

    Soul of Silence
    Sage: Seal Time increased to 5 Seconds
    Demon: Chance to Seal increased.

    Soul of Retaliation
    Sage: Reduces the damage Taken to 0.65 of Soulforce
    Demon: Reflect Damaged increased to 0.65 of Soulforce

    Tide Form
    Sage: Swimming speed increased by 20%
    Demon: Additional 3 defence levels.

    Again these are not 100% gaurenteed.

    Will do a translation of my own to check =P.
  • Crypsis - Lost City
    Crypsis - Lost City Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    hallsvaporaction wrote: »
    Most of the page is just advertising fluff. Here's what I can distill from reading it.

    1. Public testing of the content on the Chinese servers starts on March 31st.
    2. Tideborns get their demon/sage skills.
    3. At certain points during your sage/demon cultivation, you will have the choice to switch sides. (I'm guessing that if it's restricted, it'll probably occur at levels 99 and 100)
    4. There are hints at other added content in the demon/sage worlds in terms of instances, mobs, gears, etc. No elaborations on them, so don't keep your hopes too high.


    Wow if you can change culti, that would be amazing :O

    If you realize that demon or sage doesn't suit your play style, just change b:cute

    And all the poor BM/Archer etc that went sage long ago before it became slightly gimped due to event gear, easy obtainable skills and genies b:surrender.

    Its far better than having people abandon their char b/c they picked wrong culti.

    But wait til 31 march for tideborn skills sucks QQ
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Will do a translation of my own to check =P.
    Wow, did you really have to quote the entire OP?

    Crypsis - Lost City wrote: »

    But wait til 31 march for tideborn skills sucks QQ

    And 31st is for Chinese servers. b:surrender
  • Mastertidej - Heavens Tear
    Mastertidej - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    going demon ftwb:victory
  • TurboTaxi - Lost City
    TurboTaxi - Lost City Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Crypsis - Lost City wrote: »

    hmmmm, but what happens to all that spirit you used to get the skills? and coin? do you get them reimbursed? ^_^ ijs, if not.... then wow you just lost a **** load of spirit and coin! b:shocked
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    ...then maybe i'll stick around a bit longer. b:victory" -Anonymous

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  • Somebody - Raging Tide
    Somebody - Raging Tide Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    hallsvaporaction wrote: »
    A content pack is being prepared. Not only will the tideborns get their demon and sage skills, you'll get a chance to switch from demon to sage or sage to demon if you don't like the path you chose. So when the time comes, try both and find out for yourself which is a better fit.

    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/gamenews/20100317/45455.shtml

    google translate bottom of the page:
    入驻官方公会QQ群：43727797
    =
    Assigned to the official Association QQ Group: 43,727,797
    b:laughb:laugh

    yay for sage/demon release soon
  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wow, did you really have to quote the entire OP?

    Sorry =P,couldn't resist
  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Crypsis - Lost City wrote: »
    Sage does a few nice skills where they beat demon. But in all you also have to take into consideration that demon will have demon spark which normally is like 25% extra attack speed for 15 sec, sage skills needs to be prettty effing amazing to compete with that.

    Demon also gets their own Sharpen tooth arrow, Demon gets a skill similar to quick shoot with 20% attack speed. Demon also gets longer stuns/sleep and more range and more crit and will have 240% rage dmg.

    Sage Shadow Escape is pretty amazing with the purify, same with Raving Slash that gives a 50% armor break (alltho i never use that skill). Sage seems more of a Chill of the Deep -> skill spammer > 1-3 shoot type it seems. While demon is more dps and chain stuns.

    I really doubt many sins will go sage, unless the sage triple spark will have a better mod than dmg reduction like bms/archers and barbs get. If sage triple spark adds more attack or attack speed it might be a very good option but not otherwise.



    Actually, theres no news if Sins will get the -interval spark. If it happens thats awesome, but there is a chance that sins will get a Veno spark instead something like 650% weapon attackfor 15 seconds.

    Im also glad that sins dont get an elemental boost like blazing arrow, I'd hate it if that happened QQ
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  • Shisuko - Lost City
    Shisuko - Lost City Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    b:cry i wanted a elemental boost like wood (venom) damage b:cry


    btw i dont know which to select, cause with sage i get +30% damage with daggers meaning 60%normal +30% sage =90%) for me it by pass for much the demon wich is only +1% crit
    cause fora a sin that should be like 2%+

    about the raving slash, read it again cause i doent lower the oponet defence for 50, it lower YOUR SELF DEFENCE for 50% (its like the frenzy)

    b:cry i dont know what to choose and im lv 89 right now QQ
    can anybody help me plz?

    About me: in pk im a fan of chill of depp cause im a skill spamer
    but if i can get like interval bettween hits like 3.0+ ill forget about that chill of deep b:cute

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