Making money is too easy

first gold i bought was 83k

then after couple month u had gold around 130k-160k

then first slap chest of coins gold instantaly double price to go 300k so people wasnt able to make money from chest (perfect hammer was in same time)

then first 1 year pak, people didnt really know what was all benefit so gold was turning around 420k-450k

then 2nd slap anoter 1year pak with better reward gold went as high as 850k

then since it keep having pak or other sell at same time price go from 460k-570k




**** lucky token from pak is not the problem it the best token/gear/mount/bank note...

I used to buy gold for under 100k. I spent around 600k back then to get about 20 guardian angels back then for Halloween packs. The duke actually talked about people getting midnights, weapon/ornament packs, and headless horsemen amulets/belts. I already thought the gold was expensive then.

At level 88, I went to my first tw guild and I avoided tw most of the time even with gold hp charms at 300k ea. Now with 11k+ hp unbuffed, that price is nice. Right before the first anniversary packs, I had 25m coins. I was regarded as rich, but I guess it all started with the chest of coins and anniversary packs. Also, the unbelievable lag all started with the genies...b:surrender

it is way too easy to make money .... if your a cash shopper.

My veno has maxed inv and safe from the good old days when gold was sooooo cheap. Now i quitted my veno since it costs so much to buy a herc. Less DQ drops and even worse -20% profit from them make venos a fail class. Just my opinion. It used to be the richest class in PWI now its the poorest. Thank u PWI for such a fail and for bein so damn greedy

Yeah, i started playing this about one year ago now. And i have noticed every step of the way, you want to get anywhere fast, good things fast, like fashion, ground mounts, flying mounts.. there is no way in hell you will get the best anytime soon, unless you don't mind spending hours everyday.. working on grinding to earn coin and not getting anywhere with your level.. when you get 80+. I don't really mind the levels, but experiencing for myself just how long it takes to make enough money, coin on here b:surrender then how about just grinding mats in TTor where ever in game, to try and get the mats needed for TT, FF, Lunar, Nirvana? if you have nothing else to do with your lives except earning those things in game and taking god knows how long.. with no zen purchasing, i salute you b:victory other then getting those things faster like so many would rather do.. they, you, who ever, needs to buy Zen and get gold. Don't get me wrong i know that much, you have the real life money to waste on here.. Gratz b:victory i'll be one of the many who can't and in my case.. doesn't want to waste money on this game, i will get the good, great, awesome gear slowly b:cute

b:sleep this game is way too easy to cash shop.

And to you all putting down others for not wanting, willing, being able to waste money on here like yourselves.. i have a family, like i'm sure many others do, bills to pay, our family to take care of, not waste money on this game. Putting them down and myself, saying noob or fail, you'd be surprised at just how many.. like to play this game to have fun, help others, as for being the best in Duels, PK or TW. I think maybe a Pvp Server would suit you best, not a Pve server b:chuckle And yes.. i'm sure pretty much all of you have families, real life issues to deal with, as for spending so much on a game.. whats that say about yourself? then again yeah.. you may be one of the more wealthy in game pricks, putting people down lol

And i'm talking to the people with +6 or higher gear on this Pve server, ruining it for the rest They can spend so much real life money, or spend so much time grinding on a Pve server to make money.. whatever the case, to make gear, weapons, armor, ornaments, +6 or higher and so many with +10 and some higher b:surrender why can't they do that on a Pvp server? b:cute

Yeah, i know many of.. or all the high level refine people on Pve servers or just this one will hate me. I think there should be a limit as to how much you can refine on Pve servers.
The ones who love to PK & TW i'd love for them and i'm many others would like them to do the same.. buzz off, go away to some Pvp server b:thanks And make it all even and every faction on a Pve server for TW would actually come up with some strategy, plan. But pretty much everyone equal. I think the GM's or whoever decides needs to think about that

Well I played my first cleric for about 5 or 6 months and stopped around 82. I bought my first mp charm to zhen uh.. i guess level 65? ya know the one near DWP? Whatever level that was XD. I would zhen when I had a charm and do TT when I had a charm (there were no powders yet, not until Jolly gave me some :P)when I didn't have a charm, it was JQs to level and make the coins to buy another charm or start working on the gems I wanted for my future gears.
Now.. my current cleric hasn't had a charm yet and got to 60 in a week. A WEEK. Mostly from the nice TB quest and doing daily BH/Crazy stone and my quests (which are still backed up to level 57 or so). I found a nice arcane Helmet and Pants in AH. The helmet had 2 flawless cits and was +1 for like 160k and the pants had 4 sockets that I refined (with the mirages/stones from TB quest) that I filled with Flawless cits from the coins I got while questing/TBquests.... my old cleric never had anything that good at this current level. My buffs, main attacks, heals and revive are all up to date as well. I also managed to get all level 5 manufactoring on a venomancer I leveled when the server first came out. So in conclusion.. at least at my current level, it's been a lot easier to get nicer gear and higher levels faster than previously. How this is in higher levels now, I can't say, but I'm sure that hypers + FC= 80 to 90 much easier and maybe a bit more expensive, if you go that route.

tojop, it is actually much more expensive.

These new things like event pots, BH runs, near-free experience Rising Tide quests causes people to level at triple the speed. The sooner you get to higher levels the sooner you need to spend massive amounts of coins for required items.

I played during the time you speak of. Everyone was a much lower level. Thus, their gear cost was a whole lot less.

There was also Wraith attacks on towns, where you could go to grind and leave with about 80 DQ in 30 minutes and sell for 300k at a merchant or double in catshops. This happened about 3 times a day. People used Crusade Orders and did DQ quests because there was no other means of leveling, so making money with DQ items was fairly decent, and you could sell Crusade Orders for an easy 50k or more per half.

It was a stable economy and PW was making steady profit. The TW players were still spending thousands like they were today and the game population was consistently growing like their monthly profits.

Then the new servers were released...
This is what started the constant degration of Perfect World International.
Harshlands and its PvE counterpart.

Mass oracles and god pots were spread all over the server. People were hitting 80+ in a couple days with their lvl 30 gear. Nobody had too godly of gear so the god pots could pretty much heal over any attack whether it be PvE or PvP. The game was already ruined as these events spread across all of international.

Rising Tide was released with 2 overpowered classes. A psychic that completely replaces the wizard. More damage, better heals, and a powerful damage-to-attacker buff as well as defense and attack buffs. Making the wizard next to useless.

Let's not forget the invisible assassin that can kill anything in the game except a barb with a triple spark cloak in a couple seconds and then disappear like nothing happened. Nothing can be done about it. SOMETIMES if you possess a certain 3 territories. PvP was ruined.

Now it's just endless pack after endless pack as non-CS players quit left and right and people re-spec as overpowered classes while PWI milks out all the cash they possibly can from a soon-to-be dead game.

That's right, release MORE skills to the overpowered classes, and leave the original balanced 6 to suffer.

Hi Tojop b:victory

I too started playing on DW when the server opened. Gold was sitting at +/- 100k, but we were all still lowbies, so who bought much gold? After the anni packs all prices skyrocketed, gold that is, and never settled down again. I did see gold go down from 350 to 250, but that didnt take long cause corals were soon introduced.

My main source of money income back then was die-hard grinding and selling the DQ coins. I too used to zhen on -ESO's- (yes those things no one uses anymore). I'm proud to say I made it to lvl 97 with hypering only once to catch up to my hubby in lvl. (Cube event again pl0x I had so much fun and the free stones were worth it!)
To get to lvl 85 I did - a lot - of Gamma's and that is not cheap. Then I had to get ready for lvl 90, meaning getting my mats for TT90 (not to mention the subs). This drained my coin stash, but I found a way to gain it back:

-What I do to gain money nowadays is spend some time in the most profitable TT instances, such as 2-2, 2-3 and 3-1 and doing this with friends only, cause we can trust eachother and make sure everyone gets mats. Anyhow, we spend some quality time together, have fun, try some stupid things and have the time of our lives (in-game xD) and make good money out of it.-
Grinding for DQ isn't profitable anymore. You gain too little in too much time, so nerfing the DQ selling price is only adding to that.

I've never been in a big TW faction, nor will I ever join such factions. I'm happy in somewhat smaller and more 'cozy' factions and thus TW income for a person like me is nul.

Concluding my story; It sucks Gold prices are this high now, but due to everyone being able to do high lvl instances now, you can generate enough coins to manage. Remember, when we were lowbies at the starting of the servers, we didnt need all the gold or didnt have the money for it. Now that we have gained certain levels, naturally the prices went up, but a lot of items (mats, gear etc) are more easily obtained now too, due to more ppl getting access to instances because of their levels. So I think prices for only in-game items are fair. Cash shop items... b:sad

Sorry for the wall of text.

You know what Tojop? you are half right, half not.

I never do CS, i never do World Quest, i have been doing BH every 3 days, the only Dailie that i do is the OHT one cuz i get about 70k coins (18 normal + 4 tears).

I never use charms, i never do Rebirth Orders, i cant afford a charm.

Im an old player, but i quited for 7 months the game, i was one of the highest lvls on my actual faction, and i can say you this:

- I used to have an excellent gear before those 7 months.
- I used to have fash, AC pets, LOT of mounts, i used to buy charms for 400k... yes, 400k, the gold ones.
- I used to do zhen, cuz i used to afford the money.
- I used to buy black, white pigments for 500k, and that wasnt expensive.

And since packs appeared i cant do that, wanna know why?

While people used to farm TT, i used to farm all day long mid mats, they used to worth 4k each, so that was easy, 7 hours farming and imagine how many money i could get...

Before Coral Packs, people used to buy High Mats for 4k, an awesome price, cuz imagine... you dont need a squad to farm, you only need a mount, u go to boundless grass land, farm in 2 hours 100 of each mats = 1.6 mil.

Now, with luck you can get 2k for each mat...WITH LUCK!

I know what is farm, i have been doing it since i started to play.

And now, that farm mats is useless, i started with DQ items; And when i start with them, they are reducing their price?... WTH?

And about charms... the only charm i used since i came back from my "quit" is the one that the Tideborn Quest gives when you finish it...

And of course its faster to lvl, but, why hurry? i only do marriage quest and some bhs... some, and im about to be 97, and im pretty sure that in that way, i will be the same lvl as you, cuz 101+ is a loooong way to go.

About flawless gems: Yeah, they are WAAAY cheaper, but flawless used to be a nice shard, now its ****, why? cuz Garnet Gems, Citrines Gems, and Shappire Gems have arrived, and when i see someone with flawless i can see myself when i was lvl 50 and i used to watch the gear of the other people and see on their gear flawless and immaculate gems while i was wearing averages...

Its the same.

I used to wear averges > they used to wear flawless and immaculates.
I use immaculates and perfects (with luck) > they use or Citrine gems, or +10 vit stones.

Yeah... i used to do zhen, i used to buy quest, i used to do fbs all day long, now, anyone with money can do it easier.

So all the hard work that i did...is nothing now.