PWI Dying

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Guess maybe you should read this then, seems to put an arrow through your claim that Ultima was the first MMO... A BIG hole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_massively_multiplayer_online_games

~Saitada

Reno_Pc_LoT - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Firstly, i'd like to state that i am not some **** private server kid, who thinks he knows how things work, i have worked with other games as a gm, dev, and freelance script editor, the advise i'm giving is professional knowledge based.

As professional as you intend to sound, you do not come up with very good arguments.

the game currently is going downhill both pvp and pve wise, the release of two new classes and the release of an entirely new race after over year of open beta/release, is never good for this sort of mmorpg platform.

i will try to keep this as short as possible, but be blunt and direct about some important points.

first off, many a players have openly admited they are far from happy with what has been happening with the recent new patches, and others have stated that it isn't what they wanted/expected.

"Many players," a good choice of words, but you forget that most of the complaints you will hear on forums will not represent the entire community. I'm sure most people don't even bother posting on the forums. No one likes this game 100%, we all have things we dislike. However, that does not mean it is a horribly bad game or that it is going down.

i personally understand, that gm's and "devs/admins" can't do as they please with the scripts/updates, you can only do so much with editing until getting the go-ahead from the main HQ, however these are some things i've run into issues with on many other games i've played and/or worked on, and i'm not trying to be a jerk about it, or what new-aged gamers call "ZOMG NERDRAGE FTW PWNT OWNT FTW"


Psys have made, and i'm being serious, they have made Veno DD builds, cleric DD builds, and wizards all USELESS, venos are used purely for luring now, and randomly tanks, when barbs complain "me no bill repair cost high" or some other braindead ****, cuz barb players usually have no intel and think they can do whatever the hell they want, clerics are used purely for group heal/res, and wizards are greatly over powered by psys in every aspect.

venos have become very unuseful since gm's allowed the nix/herc to be nerfed, two pets which equal up to 190-350$ each, are hardly worth getting anymore, when you can take a glacier walker, give it the 3 buffs+bash and be just as good as a herc, and as far as nix's go, their attacks were weakened, and they aren't very helpful against the things people want them for, world bosses, jewelscalen, and thousand streams legion spawn, TW.

A squad of six venomancers could easily do better than a diverse squad. All they need to do is all spam heal on one tank pet and have other pets just DD. They are still very useful besides pulling, it is just dependent on what the squad is. A second barbarian isn't much good either, but it is still one more person doing damage.

The only time people want a veno, is if they are very high leveled with awesome items *negative channel items* and a herc that is same level as them, and they are used purely "poor" tanks, which psys/sins complain "they no hold aggro, veno useless get sin tank barb tank"

with that said, i will try to focus on wizards now, as far as wizards, they are underpowered compared to psys, psys cast faster, and do more damage...what the hell is the point of a wizard then? nothing, useless, just delete it from being able to be made if you're going to release a more powerful version of it, like seriously, as soon as sage/demon comes for TB's REAL gamers will quit, and new-aged gamers, will take over and try to talk like they know everything about online games.

Now, I am not familiar with the psychic skills, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't wizards have more AOE skills? Similarly to your argument later on that assassin's are better than blademasters is irrelevant as so far the assassin has two AOE skills, compared to how many an axe blademaster has? Assassins can't spam AOE like a blademaster can.

Clerics.....Psys a have group healing skill that is just as good, if not better then clerics, way to go...make it harder for clerics, their regen buffs are jokes compared to the apoth made regen items, their resist buff is the only good one for warriors, and magic attack for psys....great, not.

Compared to apothecary items, the cleric regen's are useless. However, if I have the chance in a squad to rely on that rather than my own items, I'll take a free buff instead. Plus, the defense buffs alone make clerics my friends. If I take less damage, that is less money I am putting out in the end for repairs/pots.

Clerics have a hard enough time leveling up, unless they are "ORACLE ORACLE ORACLE, TIME FOR 12X EXP GRIND FEST!!!" no one has respect for them clerics, and i'm not bashing oracles, because yes they can be useful, especially with the current factions going on about "REACH 90 FROM 80 IN 2 DAY OR U KICK NUB!" seriously these people need to be slapped.

Clerics need respect, and props, they have LOW defense, and burn mana insanely, only to save the idiots who suck at the game.


moving onto Archers now, so tell me, what the hell is the point of having an archer now? Assassins crit rate is higher, their crits do more damage, they have higher health, they have skills which reduces damage/receives no damage, they have lifeleeching skills, they attack twice as fast, and do more damage in general, thank you...archers = useless as hell now

Assassins get to go up to a mob and get hit several times before killing it. Archers however have the option of stunning, kiting, and pushing their enemies away to take no damage. Plus, notice that archers can DD from a long range distance against AOE bosses, where assassins have to stand back with a regular bow and DD with normal hits and sparks. Assassins are weak classes in HP, and it doesn't take many hits to kill them.

and i'll explain it more too, archers were gimped to begin with, a PROPER archer could steal aggro more then most classes, because they use to be huge DPS due to their crit/range ability, now they've added a class which can tank, and do the same, if not higher dps then archers.

If you think assassin's are good tanks, you obviously haven't tried it too much. I use a hybrid build on mine (1 vit, 2 str, 7 dex every 2 levels) and I still can't tank well unless I have a very good cleric or two healing me. Note, this is also with 3* armor and physical defense stones/buffs

Blademasters, okay, sure high damage, decently high phys defense..sounds good? was for a while, but low and behold, assassins have just as good as defense, if not better! and do alot more DPS then blademasters, i know i said a similar thing earlier, but if you're gunna release a class that over powers one or more other classes, just delete the others.

Assassins have better evasion and magical defense, but not better physical defense. Strength increases physical defense as well as physical attacks, on top of having heavy armor. Better physical defense for assassins? You are not showing a great amount of intelligence with this.

right now, its completely unbalanced, an assassin with same weapon level as an archer, does about 45% more damage per second, then the archer does...and about 15-20% more damage then a pure damage build Blade master, this has been proven by the players of the game.

Again, read my arguments. They may do more damage, but they are also subjected to much more damage and a higher likelihood of death. The only thing that keeps my pot usage down as an assassin is my genie's Second Wind.

everyone was looking forward to the sins and psys being nerfed, instead, GM'S WILLINGLY ACCEPTED AND RELEASED A PATCH TO MAKE THEM BETTER! ontop of that, they release oracles into the cash shop for people to power level their sins/psys, then ontop of that, they release non-stop double exp/spirit events, oh and this just takes the cake, they added EXP stones, which stack with events! so now they can earn 13x exp/spirit. just great, just flipping fantastic.

I can't argue for the psychic, so I won't try to. My only argument for them was itself skeptical based on a guess. However, I do not think the assassin is overpowered as greatly as you seem to. It could use less damage to make it more reasonably equal in PvE, but otherwise I think they are fine. As it is, the only thing keeping me from sustaining a lot of damage, aside from evasion, is using a bow to lure in mobs before using daggers, which is something I did on my spear, sword, and fist blademasters.

i'm far from downing on exp/spirit events, but we don't need them non-stop for weeks at a time, a weekend now and then is fine, and weekend = 2 days, not 5 days, and the exp stones should have level requirements, depending on the bonus stature you're applying, 12x should be for 90+ only! heck even 5x should be!


well anyways, these are all the points of where things have gone down hill, and i'm only hoping the gm's will notice and fix it, before PWI as we know it, is completely dead

and hey, some people will fight the whole noob battle way "well what event can they do if not exp ones! you noob you just trash talk blah blah, i play WoW level 75 in 3 day" seriously, all you new aged gamers that are going to bash comments, go away, unplug your PC, if you can even call what you're using a PC, REAL gamers, who've been playing mmorpg going onto 14 years, will agree

This now is just a matter of debate, but where do you get the right to call yourself a "real gamer" over others? More experience does not equate to a better title. Experience as a MMORPG gamer does not mean you are more of a gamer than others who may play FPS. If you want to get down to it, only people who were playing computer games back on computers back when they first started coming out as PC's can call themselves "real gamers" by your standards.

Here is a simple way of knowing who is a gamer:

Do you like video games?
Do you play video games?

If the answer to both is yes, you are a gamer.

for those noobs whom are gunna say "i been mmorpg for 15-17 year!" umm...sorry check back when you're not a liar, the very first MMORPG! was Ultima Online, AND YES! it is a freaking fact you Ruin Scape rejects! Ultima Online was launched for selective alpha testers, 250 people, in the year of 1996, and released EARLY, 1997.
(im aware the games name isnt ruinscape, but they blocked the real name)


mmorpg does not mean "ONLINE GAME" online games were around before that, MMORPG'S WERE NOT!


now as for them noobs who think double events are the only type of events, i've compiled a short list of events, i've seen, and/or helped MAKE with my own ability and know-how of coding/scripting.

Man Hunt

Paintball

King Of The Hill

Monster Bash *A REAL ONE NOT JUST "BOOM HERE A BUNCH OF MOB DURRRRRR...KILL DURRR*

SERVER WIDE BOSS! where every player gets a small reward, and maybe a random amount of players get secret rewards

Capture the Flag

Destory The Castle<--- yes there is a similar event, which is TW, but destory the castle is more fun, its like Red Vs Blue sort of.

these are a few events where players can come together, and enjoy it together, not quests that they can do solo, or kill things that have 100 hp.

I will not argue, there should be a better variety of events. This is probably the one area we both can agree on, and I very much like the list provided.

i<3PWI, and support it greatly, which does mean, yes i cash shop, but it is required for the game to stay active.

Reno_Pc_LoT - Heavens Tear wrote: »

fun fact time! mentioned by more then 1 Psys in the faction im in, Psys attacks are not effected by "Increased Magic Resist" monsters.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't think you succeeded.

Suck it up and stfu, OP... PWI is probably the first and only MMORPG that found a creative way to keep its player base's interest by integrating a new and challenging race, thereby showing its superior sense of marketing in every way thinkable.

ExELFine - Heavens Tear wrote: »

me thinks OP's a big impostor, a stupid noob, a friggin' liar and possibly a frustrated mole from some other fail MMORPG just jealous of PWI success.

Suck it up and stfu, OP... PWI is probably the first and only MMORPG that found a creative way to keep its player base's interest by integrating a new and challenging race, thereby showing its superior sense of marketing in every way thinkable.

If you don't like it, you know the way out and why don't you go QQ on somebody else's MMORPG... I suggest MW II... yea, you sound like you'd be one of their stup' fans: (IGG) there's a stupid company that has lost its player base and killed the game because of whiners like you who think they know better... create problems but never seem to be able to find a solution.

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Suck it up and stfu, OP... PWI is probably the first and only MMORPG that found a creative way to keep its player base's interest by integrating a new and challenging race, thereby showing its superior sense of marketing in every way thinkable.

Fiery_Demon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I totally agree with the part that Tideborn are overpowered, in my opinion the game would be better if they weren't brought in.
I say this because both psychics and assassins do a lot of damage, so there are 3 major issues:

1) They KS a lot, at least psys do. Most of them are so used to that, that they even don't try to say "sry didn't see you killing it"(when they obviously did), but they just keep doing it until the other person leaves.

2) They pull aggro from tanks when doing bh/fb/bosses. And usually they don't even pay attention to that, so they die. And when they die, a cleric (who's supposed to heal the tank) has to res them, so the tank dies and then the rest of the party.

3) They get most of the drops when doing smth in a squad, as when the drops go to random people, they usually go to the one who does the most damage. ( I was doing bh few days ago, and a psy got 5, yes 5 reputation stamps, no1 else got any)

I've been in all of those situations, especially the last 2 ones, almost every day and it bothers me a lot <.< But it's just my opinion.